Subjects you have taught but are not qualified for

joebloggs32

Just wondering what subjects teachers here have in their time been timetabled for but are not qualified to teach.

I'll get the ball rolling.

Maths JC
Business Studies JC.
LCVP
ICT

RealJohn

Physics, biology, ICT. Technically maths (for my whole teaching career to date) but I'm in the final stages of qualifying there anyway.
I'll have physics again next year too by the looks of things.

Inspector Coptoor

Honours leaving cert Maths
LCVP
CSPE
Geography

TheDriver

Home Economics, SPHE, Applied Maths. Never poisoned anyone in the kitchen except myself..........

sitstill

I have just had SPHE and CSPE.

chippers

Currently teaching history to the equivalent of Junior Cert level students. I've got the kids making presentations on the great spanish painter Diego Velazquez this week! I've had to learn a lot about history this year and it's been tough at times but really interesting as well.

vamos!

Irish,Spanish,business,history and English as well as cspe and a pile of lca subjects

evolving_doors

Ok that's it..... all of ye can get yissr bag and baggage and march to the teaching council head office in double time.

I'm deadly serious.

peble

Not surprising why so many students struggle when it comes to exam time .It is because people like this get payed for something their are not qualified for. Or you get those old teachers with outdated information that don't want to retire and give a chance new Qualified teachers. In comparison with other countries in the EU ,Ireland doesn't have as high standards as it should with all the money that goes towards education, thats why you have this different levels when you go to do your leaving cert ,so the teachers don't look bad.

spurious

peble wrote: »

Not surprising why so many students struggle when it comes to exam time .It is because people like this get payed for something their are not qualified for. Or you get those old teachers with outdated information that don't want to retire and give a chance new Qualified teachers. In comparison with other countries in the EU ,Ireland doesn't have as high standards as it should with all the money that goes towards education, thats why you have this different levels when you go to do your leaving cert ,so the teachers don't look bad.

Please read the forum charter.

rainbowtrout

TheDriver wrote: »

Home Economics, SPHE, Applied Maths. Never poisoned anyone in the kitchen except myself..........

Applied Maths and Home Economics have so much in common!


Me:

OL/FL LC Maths (before I got my qualifications in Maths)
German (first years)
LCVP

Miss Lockhart

LC OL Maths
JC OL Maths
JC OL Irish
JC History
JC French
SPHE
CSPE
LCA Hair and Beauty

spurious

Group Cert. Maths
Group Cert. Irish
CSPE
ICT

faughs

Currently teaching foundation level junior cert maths and also had a 2 week stint teaching leaving cert geography. Also took a cspe and sphe group before as well as LCA maths.

doc_17

Physics and Science.

Just curious here....is it still the case that people can be qualified to teach a subject (say Maths) to JC only? Or has the Teaching Council done away with that?

And as far as I'm aware I don't think anyone can be officially qualified to teach SPHE!

RealJohn

doc_17 wrote: »

Just curious here....is it still the case that people can be qualified to teach a subject (say Maths) to JC only? Or has the Teaching Council done away with that?

No, other than science and business studies where the leaving cert subjects are broken up into different areas, you're either qualified to leaving cert or you're not qualified. Not that that means you won't wind up teaching something you're not qualified for.

annadro

I am a qualified Chemistry teacher which entitles me to teach Science to Junior Certificate level also.

I have also taught maths, ICT, physics and CSPE - subjects that I am not qualified in. I covered maths and physics in my degree but not to the required standard. I found I was well capable to teach these subjects and enjoyed teaching them. To upskill would require time, energy and finance which I do not have at the current time. Teaching is all consuming as it is so I can't see where I would be able to fit in time for upskilling - I worked very hard when I was in college.

I am currently covering another maternity leave contract.

Postgrad10

Geography, SPHE, CSPE, and Maths .

linguist

To follow from RealJohn's answer above - for which thanks - are principals now under any type of obligation to allocate subjects to those qualified to teach them before turning to those not qualified to do so?

I ask this because I've heard it said orally in the last couple of years (including by my current principal!) that the teaching council have really toughened up etc. but I can't find any written evidence of this.

rainbowtrout

linguist wrote: »

To follow from RealJohn's answer above - for which thanks - are principals now under any type of obligation to allocate subjects to those qualified to teach them before turning to those not qualified to do so?

I ask this because I've heard it said orally in the last couple of years (including by my current principal!) that the teaching council have really toughened up etc. but I can't find any written evidence of this.

Can't imagine what the Teaching Council have got to do with it. They have no say in timetabling in schools. Where issues may arise is when there is a subject inspection and it's found that teachers are teaching subjects they are not qualified in, and where there is a teacher in that school qualified in the subject.

I think also that the obligation question is a bit more complicated than just being qualified to teach a subject or not qualified. Permanent teachers timetables need to be filled before part time teachers timetables. So sometimes they end up with subjects they are not qualified in.