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Ireland's 1st used merc Sls for sale

  • 14-05-2013 2:35pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭


    See koping have 11d grey one for sale price poa hope they look as good in flesh as in photos ! Think this must be Car Cunningham Higgins had when Sls came out. Don't know koping own car or not But think ep mooneys creditors won't happy seeing them with such flashy cars !


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    I hate that "POA" crap... why cant they just list the price!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,907 ✭✭✭✭MetzgerMeister


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    I hate that "POA" crap... why cant they just list the price!

    IMO it's a way of seeing how much interest there is in the car by people ringing asking what the price is.

    Then again it could also be that if you have to ask, you probably can't afford it anyway :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    On phone
    Someone "How much is it?"
    Seller "How much are you offering?"
    Someone "How much is it?"
    Seller "How much are you offering?"
    Someone "How much is it?"
    Seller "How much are you offering?"
    ...
    POA is PITA


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    IMO it's a way of seeing how much interest there is in the car by people ringing asking what the price is.

    Then again it could also be that if you have to ask, you probably can't afford it anyway :pac:
    I just skip past those ads though

    I'm currently in the process of buying a car, I'd never ring without some sort of benchmark price being set


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭T-Maxx


    ironclaw wrote: »

    Nice idea in theory. Can't see it working really, at least not in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    T-Maxx wrote: »
    Nice idea in theory. Can't see it working really, at least not in Ireland.

    The example he gives was a journalist in Ireland. I'd be skeptical but its a solid theory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭mondeoman2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    POA is an Irish persons way of fleecing as much out of you as they can


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 934 ✭✭✭LowKeyReturn


    ironclaw wrote: »

    That's a good way of doing things but not when they know there are limited numbers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭goochy


    Does anyone know how car dealers like mooneys can go belly up and then open up again ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,547 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Just over 10k miles on it, cost per mile will be comical, probably lost a good 30% of it's original cost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    mondeoman2 wrote: »
    Whoever put that ad together is a world class clown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Veloce


    Being sold by a dealer on the Naas road :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,704 ✭✭✭Cheensbo


    Looks like Micheal J Fox took the pictures,


    with a calculator.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Veloce wrote: »
    Being sold by a dealer on the Naas road :eek:


    Naas road dealers;
    Stereo is missing, isopon holding the front wing together and re-moulds for tyres.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 621 ✭✭✭Bebo stunnah


    mondeoman2 wrote: »

    Don't you mean "Pertol" ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,016 ✭✭✭lomb


    Not a great looking car more funky than aesthetic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭Ninap


    Reckon that'll end up being sold in the UK. No market for it here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,545 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Ninap wrote: »
    Reckon that'll end up being sold in the UK. No market for it here.

    Vrt refund will put the country out of business :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,302 ✭✭✭Supergurrier


    lomb wrote: »
    Not a great looking car more funky than aesthetic

    Feck the looks, the powerplant is what it's all about, could stick it in an e class and it's all the one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,947 ✭✭✭Tropheus


    Just over 10k miles on it, cost per mile will be comical, probably lost a good 30% of it's original cost.

    I'd say more like 50% in the current market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    That ad is simply shocking for a car which they expect to sell for a very high price.

    It wouldn't take a huge amount of effort to get a camera, drive somewhere nice and take a couple of decent not shaking out of focus shots.

    USELESS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    Veloce wrote: »
    Being sold by a dealer on the Naas road :eek:

    the lads in that particular garage dont know how to drive,

    ive seen the mechanics there bring s40's on test drives and tear the bollox out of them.

    brought my car to koping once to get a key programmed, on the way out the traffic light went green but the car in front was slow to take off and one of the mechanics in a customers car was beeping and shouting at him and then tore off down the naas road quite fast,

    was the first and last time bringing a car there, never again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,237 ✭✭✭kirving


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    That ad is simply shocking for a car which they expect to sell for a very high price.

    It wouldn't take a huge amount of effort to get a camera, drive somewhere nice and take a couple of decent not shaking out of focus shots.

    USELESS

    If they gave car to me for the day I'd make a far better advert ;-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭tossy


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Whoever put that ad together is a world class clown.

    I agree. It's wonder it doesn't have the sentence "563 brake"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭whippet


    Anyone interested / can afford that type of car won't be looking through Carzone to see if one is up for sale. If I was in the market for an SLS I would have made my interest known to a couple of Merc dealers and probably to MB Ireland and I am sure they would come looking for me when one comes back on the market.

    The ad is just a bit of window dressing for the dealer on Carzone and not to attract business from potential buyers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    whippet wrote: »
    If I was in the market for an SLS I would have made my interest known to a couple of Merc dealers and probably to MB Ireland and I am sure they would come looking for me when one comes back on the market.
    Maybe in a different country.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    whippet wrote: »
    Anyone interested / can afford that type of car won't be looking through Carzone to see if one is up for sale. If I was in the market for an SLS I would have made my interest known to a couple of Merc dealers and probably to MB Ireland and I am sure they would come looking for me when one comes back on the market.

    The ad is just a bit of window dressing for the dealer on Carzone and not to attract business from potential buyers

    Exactly. Gets the dreamers out on a Sunday afternoon for a look. They probably have no intention of selling it and if I was in the market, and had that type of cash, it would be lunacy to buy off anyone but a main dealer. If you have to stoop or cut corners to afford such a car you shouldn't even be considering it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    ironclaw wrote: »
    and if I was in the market, and had that type of cash, it would be lunacy to buy off anyone but a main dealer.
    Out of interest, why? A warranty does have value, but doesn't it ultimately come down to what you pay vs what you get?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Anan1 wrote: »
    Out of interest, why? A warranty does have value, but doesn't it ultimately come down to what you pay vs what you get?

    A main dealer would be pretty quick to stand over a €160k motor while your average, repo selling garage would be not (Not offence to the garage on this thread, I'm speaking in generalities) At least that would be my viewpoint. We see the horror stories here every day for cars that are €10k, imagine something 10 times the price.

    I just treat any high end motor with suspicion. A warranty is only as good as the garage behind it and you can cry all you want to the courts but if someone goes out of business or bust, you'll never see an ounce of that warranty without a fight, which will be expensive and defeat the point of buying such a high end car 'on the cheap' in the first place.

    I have no issue in buying an 'average' second hand car in any garage. But if I was going to drop potentially €50k or more, I'd want to be damn sure that garage is going to be able to honor a warranty and actually execute it. As you rightly said Anan, what you pay is what you get. I just cringe when I see people in great, expensive cars and ruining them because they can't afford to maintain them! :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,815 ✭✭✭✭Anan1


    ironclaw wrote: »
    A main dealer would be pretty quick to stand over a €160k motor while your average, repo selling garage would be not (Not offence to the garage on this thread, I'm speaking in generalities) At least that would be my viewpoint. We see the horror stories here every day for cars that are €10k, imagine something 10 times the price.

    I just treat any high end motor with suspicion. A warranty is only as good as the garage behind it and you can cry all you want to the courts but if someone goes out of business or bust, you'll never see an ounce of that warranty without a fight, which will be expensive and defeat the point of buying such a high end car 'on the cheap' in the first place.

    I have no issue in buying an 'average' second hand car in any garage. But if I was going to drop potentially €50k or more, I'd want to be damn sure that garage is going to be able to honor a warranty and actually execute it. As you rightly said Anan, what you pay is what you get. I just cringe when I see people in great, expensive cars and ruining them because they can't afford to maintain them! :(
    I was more thinking of buying privately and taking on the risk of something going wrong in exchange for a lower purchase price. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭goochy


    How is this dealer able to be in business after going bust ? It annoys me to see them with fancy stuff like this and. Buying cars for cash off cash strapped Plp while they get away with owing millions ! Wouldn't buy car off dealer who had gone belly up and reopened again!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    goochy wrote: »
    How is this dealer able to be in business after going bust ? It annoys me to see them with fancy stuff like this and. Buying cars for cash off cash strapped Plp while they get away with owing millions ! Wouldn't buy car off dealer who had gone belly up and reopened again!

    There are plenty of fly by night dealers taking the stock from the likes of NAMA's books. There are thousands of cars in NAMA being drip fed onto the market to avoid a car market crash. Some are even marked that they have to be sold privately and not into the trade. Most of the fancy stuff has been exported however.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭whippet


    There is almost no chance that the garage here has paid a penny up front for this car. The owner is getting the dealer to sell it for them and the dealer will take a commission. I don't know this is for sure but I couldn't see how it would work any other way. For the cost of stocking this car would mean tying up the equivalent cash of 20 or so ford focus' that would sell like hot cakes all day.


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