Volvo S40 S 1.6 Diesel

martineire · 13-05-2013 9:51pm #1

Hi guys I'm just thinking about buy a second hand 06 Volvo S40 S 1.6 diesel 145,760 miles for €5950

I'm just looking for any feed back on this car?
Would this car be quite economical, on fuel?

Sobanek · 13-05-2013 9:57pm

Yeah, the engine is rubbish - avoid at all costs especially with this mileage!!!

martineire · 13-05-2013 10:08pm

Any advise on a good economical second hand diesel car to buy??

I'm on a budget of bout €6000

Bpmull · 13-05-2013 10:10pm

Sobanek wrote: »

Yeah, the engine is rubbish - avoid at all costs especially with this mileage!!!

Rubbish is abit strong now. The engine is soft compared too some Diesel engines it won't take as much abuse. The main problems with them would be turbo egr problems. Tbh that car would want to have been serviced at least every 20k km and even at that the mileage is a bit high. I don't think it's cheap enough considering the risk.

leinad · 13-05-2013 10:12pm

martineire wrote: »

Any advise on a good economical second hand diesel car to buy??

I'm on a budget of bout €6000

Honda accord Diesel

Bpmull · 13-05-2013 10:14pm

martineire wrote: »

Any advise on a good economical second hand diesel car to buy??

I'm on a budget of bout €6000

Skoda octavia 1.9tdi about as reliable as they come.
Opel astra 1.7 cdti.

The Pontiac · 13-05-2013 11:58pm

Bpmull wrote: »

Skoda octavia 1.9tdi about as reliable as they come.
Opel astra 1.7 cdti.

Just wondered why the Skoda gets recommended here so often, when the same engine is fitted to the Golf/Passat/A3... ?

Just because it's the cheaper car? Genuinely curious.

Merch · 14-05-2013 12:12am

Bpmull wrote: »

Skoda octavia 1.9tdi about as reliable as they come.
Opel astra 1.7 cdti.

Is that the old Diesel engine? without all the bells and whistles? of DMF and DPF?

Would either of the above still have problems at lower mileage useage?

Any opinions on the 1.6 or 1.8 petrol engines in the Octavia (older models)?

Can I divert this thread to CUBA?

JohnBoy26 · 14-05-2013 12:59am

leinad wrote: »

Honda accord Diesel

Early examples of these are troublesome enough.

Bpmull · 14-05-2013 7:41am

The Pontiac wrote: »

Just wondered why the Skoda gets recommended here so often, when the same engine is fitted to the Golf/Passat/A3... ?

Just because it's the cheaper car? Genuinely curious.

Well they are very reliable. The reason they are recommended above a vw Audi. Is you'd get alot more of octavia for 6k than you would of some of the other brands. Parts are also fairly cheap for them.

Bpmull · 14-05-2013 7:47am

Merch wrote: »

Is that the old Diesel engine? without all the bells and whistles? of DMF and DPF?

Would either of the above still have problems at lower mileage useage?

Any opinions on the 1.6 or 1.8 petrol engines in the Octavia (older models)?

Can I divert this thread to CUBA?

The 1.9 octavia's didnt have a dpf. Although they had a dmf which usually goes between 80-100k miles but can go at anytime depending on your driving. As for the lower mileage its the dpf that causes problems there.it really depends how low your mileage the chances are the 1.9tdi wouldn't cause any major problems on short trips it also won't save you much on fuel as diesels are only really economical on long trips. So it really depends whether you do all down driving and how low your annual mileage is ?

George Dalton · 14-05-2013 7:56am

Bpmull wrote: »

Well they are very reliable. The reason they are recommended above a vw Audi. Is you'd get alot more of octavia for 6k than you would of some of the other brands. Parts are also fairly cheap for them.

Skoda parts are no cheaper than VW parts. And yet Skoda have a reputation for cheap parts while VW have a reputation for expensive parts. Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read on the internet.

celtic_oz · 14-05-2013 7:58am

are any of the volvo diesel engines good ?

George Dalton · 14-05-2013 8:01am

Sobanek wrote: »

Yeah, the engine is rubbish - avoid at all costs especially with this mileage!!!

The PSA 1.6 engine is not rubbish. It just doesn't handle neglect very well, a characteristic it shares with a lot of modern small capacity diesel engines, including some that are supposedly very reliable if you believed everything you read on this forum.

Have you ever owned a car with the engine in question? Or have you looked after significant numbers of cars with the engine fitted?

Bpmull · 14-05-2013 8:08am

George Dalton wrote: »

Skoda parts are no cheaper than VW parts. And yet Skoda have a reputation for cheap parts while VW have a reputation for expensive parts. Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read on the internet.

I didn't actually say they are cheaper than vw just cheap in general. Just from whenever we buy parts for the octavia I always thought they were very reasonable. We've never bought parts for a vw or Audi so I wasn't trying to say they were expensive.

George Dalton · 14-05-2013 8:12am

Bpmull wrote: »

I didn't actually say they are cheaper than vw just cheap in general. Just from whenever we buy parts for the octavia I always thought they were very reasonable. We've never bought parts for a vw or Audi so I wasn't trying to say they were expensive.

I know you weren't, I was just making an observation in general rather than making a personal attack on you

I have often read on this forum that people are advised against a Golf in favour of a Focus (for example) due to the price of parts. We buy thousands of euros worth of genuine Ford and VW parts every month and find the prices broadly similar, in fact if anything VW are cheaper.

Supergurrier · 14-05-2013 8:21am

As said above skoda octavia diesel or honda accord diesel, the Volvo is seriously underpowered and the engine is overstressed as it is

php-fox · 15-05-2013 12:57am

Sobanek wrote: »

Yeah, the engine is rubbish - avoid at all costs especially with this mileage!!!

Nonsense. I've an s40 1.6d with 210k km. The engine is running like new. Just look after it, and it'll be fine.

JohnBoy26 · 15-05-2013 1:21am

php-fox wrote: »

Nonsense. I've an s40 1.6d with 210k km. The engine is running like new. Just look after it, and it'll be fine.

they are a disaster of an engine, even by modern diesel standards. Even looked after well maintained examples give trouble.

php-fox · 15-05-2013 1:22am

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

they are a disaster of an engine, even by modern diesel standards. Even looked after well maintained examples give trouble.

Some proof would be nice.

JohnBoy26 · 15-05-2013 1:41am

php-fox wrote: »

Some proof would be nice.

My experience of them is proof enough for me. However if you want proof yourself im sure google will tell you all you need to know.

php-fox · 15-05-2013 1:50am

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

My experience of them is proof enough for me. However if you want proof yourself im sure google will tell you all you need to know.

And why don't share those experiences with us? Saying that the engine is rubbish and sending me to google is hardly helpful to anybody.

JohnBoy26 · 15-05-2013 2:06am

php-fox wrote: »

And why don't share those experiences with us? Saying that the engine is rubbish and sending me to google is hardly helpful to anybody.

A relative had a 407 and a mate had a ford focus, both had the same 1.6 psa unit and both were extreamly well maintained. Both suffered turbo failure at relatively low mileage. Despite regular oil changes using the correct oil both had turned the oil to sludge a common flaw with these engines, this in turn eventually blocked the turbo oil feed pipe which then starved the turbo of oil, this = turbo failure.

Row · 15-05-2013 11:15am

Serviced a 407 1.6 hdi a few weeks ago with 150k mls on the clock on its original turbo and engine...Tbh It was running fine.
One thing is servicing them on time but the grade of oil is also critical.

If one runs these engines even 2k over there service intervals then major problems can occur.

djPSB · 22-07-2013 6:40pm

Is the engine in the 1.6 C30 the same?

colm_mcm · 22-07-2013 6:41pm

djPSB wrote: »

Is the engine in the 1.6 C30 the same?

Yes.

bazz26 · 22-07-2013 6:41pm

Yes.

George Dalton · 22-07-2013 6:41pm

Yes.

djPSB · 22-07-2013 7:35pm

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-c30-1-6d-2007-nct-til-09-2015/5378002

Have my eye on this.

But the negative comments in relation to the engine here are slightly worrying.

What ye think.

MidlandsM · 22-07-2013 7:39pm

djPSB wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-c30-1-6d-2007-nct-til-09-2015/5378002

Have my eye on this.

But the negative comments in relation to the engine here are slightly worrying.

What ye think.

sh!t engine.........

R.O.R · 22-07-2013 7:47pm

djPSB wrote: »

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-c30-1-6d-2007-nct-til-09-2015/5378002

Have my eye on this.

But the negative comments in relation to the engine here are slightly worrying.

What ye think.

There's something not sitting quite right with that car.

Reg number looks very high for an Irish car, but speedo is in KM/h, which would be a lot of expense to go to if it is an import.

It's mainly the D2 badge though - an 07 would be a 1.6d, they didn't use D2, D3 etc until 2010.

Might just be someone updated the badge, but it's enough to get my suspicions up.

djPSB · 22-07-2013 8:43pm

What would be considered the most reliable 1.6 diesel engine?

MuppetCheck · 22-07-2013 8:50pm

Kia Proceed - 3 door, looks alright but the interior isn't as nice. Probably still have a year or twos warranty left on one too.

colm_mcm · 22-07-2013 8:57pm

MuppetCheck wrote: »

Kia Proceed - 3 door, looks alright but the interior isn't as nice. Probably still have a year or twos warranty left on one too.

Or the identically engined Hyundai i30

mullingar · 22-07-2013 10:05pm

The only problem with the 1.6 PSA engine as was pointed out earlier is neglect. A correctly maintained PAS 1.6 is a very nice reliable engine.

It is well documented online that any sludge is caused by poor servicing or using the incorrect specification oil. This applies to VAGs too!

Also, imo, all modern diesels need servicing at most 12 months or 10k miles. No exception.

Row · 22-07-2013 10:11pm

mullingar wrote: »

The only problem with the 1.6 PSA engine as was pointed out earlier is neglect. A correctly maintained PAS 1.6 is a very nice reliable engine.

It is well documented online that any sludge is caused by poor servicing or using the incorrect specification oil. This applies to VAGs too!

Also, imo, all modern diesels need servicing at most 12 months or 10k miles. No exception.

X2

As mullingar has said these engines usually only cause problems if there not looked after so insure its had a full service history..:)

MidlandsM · 23-07-2013 11:13am

mullingar wrote: »

The only problem with the 1.6 PSA engine as was pointed out earlier is neglect. A correctly maintained PAS 1.6 is a very nice reliable engine.

you know, i hear this all the time, and I don't agree......I've seen ones with full ford or pug histories off fleet, that were properly main dealer maintained, and they're still sh!t.

Volvo S40 S 1.6 Diesel

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