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Silage Additive

  • 12-05-2013 9:43pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭


    What do ye think. We used in the past innoculents I think they were called a lot of cash and to be honest I saw little or no return.
    Perhaps the wet silage season sulphuric acid would have helped preservation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    delaval wrote: »
    What do ye think. We used in the past innoculents I think they were called a lot of cash and to be honest I saw little or no return.
    Perhaps the wet silage season sulphuric acid would have helped preservation.

    Haven't used an additive for over ten years. Silage went in very wet last year but still came out fine apart from bit of waste at sides. Is the likes of sila save any good for top layer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    depends on what your using, some will really aid digestion at feed out. Dont see much reason for the additive for preservation unless grass is well above 40dm and feeding out during the summer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    depends on what your using, some will really aid digestion at feed out. Dont see much reason for the additive for preservation unless grass is well above 40 and feeding out during the summer.
    Well above 40 whats?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    delaval wrote: »
    Well above 40 whats?

    °c


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    delaval wrote: »
    Well above 40 whats?

    40 DM


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭buffalobilly


    Tried quite a few additives here came to the conclusion that good silage is all down to the covering plastic up the wall and 2 covers on top them sausage bags are a good for sealing around walls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭bogman_bass


    what about going back to molasses or beet pulp?

    additive, improves palitability and you have the feed vallue of the product itself.

    Its messy though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    Lads poor old delaval is only mad for ye to ask him if he has silage fit to cut and ye wont help him out.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    what about going back to molasses or beet pulp?

    additive, improves palitability and you have the feed vallue of the product itself.

    Its messy though

    but at €200t its expensive having a good few tons sitting in the pit for 6months. Much prefer to use as and when needed at correct quantities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    Would molasses dribbled out onto the wet silage before baling last year have improved preservation and silage quality ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    moy83 wrote: »
    Would molasses dribbled out onto the wet silage before baling last year have improved preservation and silage quality ?

    preservation - yes
    silage quality - no.

    if the silage isnt quality before its being cut, there is no way of improving it. you just added sugar to it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭moy83


    preservation - yes
    silage quality - no.

    if the silage isnt quality before its being cut, there is no way of improving it. you just added sugar to it
    I noticed alot of the bales we bought this year would have a little bit of white mould on them and wouldnt last great once they were opened , I reckon the molasses could of solved that problem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭loveta


    Does alot of it not depend on when your cutting like mid/late may yes use on but say roughly 10th june onwards no real benefit???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    loveta wrote: »
    Does alot of it not depend on when your cutting like mid/late may yes use on but say roughly 10th june onwards no real benefit???

    Roughly 22nd May on no real benefit. As soon as you see any heads on silage forget buying innoculants/enzymes. In general the only guys who will get a return from them are winter finishers and winter milkers.


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