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Goldman Sachs pulls out of IFSC Why?

  • 12-05-2013 12:29pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,224 ✭✭✭


    Apparently it's down to our strict banking regulations, and others have also left.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/heavy-regulation-affects-ifsc-1.1383149

    Why do these banks prefer to operate in less well regulated markets, it looks very suspicious.

    Surely their own interests and reputations are better protected in a more regulated territory?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭Technoprisoner


    because the gravy train has just pulled out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭Fitz123


    Surprised so much of the talk is about GS, I don't really remember much talk about BAC when they moved a derivative business from Dublin to London.

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/100411179


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,101 ✭✭✭Rightwing


    Apparently it's down to our strict banking regulations, and others have also left.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/heavy-regulation-affects-ifsc-1.1383149

    Why do these banks prefer to operate in less well regulated markets, it looks very suspicious.

    Surely their own interests and reputations are better protected in a more regulated territory?

    And I wonder how many jobs will be lost by this? 1...2? 0 ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,648 ✭✭✭Cody Pomeray


    Fitz123 wrote: »
    Surprised so much of the talk is about GS, I don't really remember much talk about BAC when they moved a derivative business from Dublin to London.

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/100411179

    Bingo!

    I think this is the kind of thing that we were looking for; it's certainly more useful than the Commerzbank and GS Story, and might suggest regulatory involvement in the decision to quite Dublin. This quote in particular:
    But bankers said Irish officials had made it clear they were uncomfortable with such a large book of business being Dublin-based, theoretically posing a risk to Irish taxpayers.

    So maybe Somers was right.

    The article mentions a falling british corporation rate as well, but lets be clear that rate is falling to 23%, there's still a substantial tax arbitrage in Ireland, but perhaps the regulatory benefits are indeed diminishing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,180 ✭✭✭hfallada


    Some of these companies are "located in the IFSC" and managing billions of euro worth of assets but your local spar probably has twice the employees.

    http://www.top1000.ie/industries/financial-services-banking


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,759 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    32,000 people employed be companies in the IFSC.
    They pay €1bn in corporate tax and €1bn in payroll taxes.

    We had too little regulation, now we've too much. Its making it too hard to do business. We need to find a middle ground.


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