Marshall 802/804

shanemc123

Hi everyone does anyone know of a good Marshall 802 or 804 for sale??? Are they a good tractor??

Manoffeeling

Buy something else. My father swore by them but he is a particularly rough man and loves fixing yolks. Wait until the steering wears :eek:
Please buy something else. You won't save any money in the long run. The lift cover can break also. If the breaks are the very same as the leyland, then you have no breaks.

blue5000

I might be wrong, but are they basically a nuffield 10/60 with a cab?

iverjohnston

Same 3x3 gearbox as the 272 syncro, so only 9 forward gears. No splitter or syncro on the ranges. You do get oil immersed brakes, which is a good point. Engine is Leyland and so is hydraulics. Cab is Sekura, same as Case 1394 etc.

himwdah

they aint that bad bot cabs ar starting to rust really bad now good ones r like hens teeth, mighty gripper and always found them fairly reliable.

Manoffeeling

himwdah wrote: »

they aint that bad bot cabs ar starting to rust really bad now good ones r like hens teeth, mighty gripper and always found them fairly reliable.

They are reliable until you go do anything :rolleyes:
Good gripper alright. Ask why they are rare

himwdah

good rust free are rare, never had any real reliablity issuse and we have had a few , 384 with a 6cyl fitted, 2 802 marshalls and 1 272 leyland, no major issuses, just a note the 802 replaced a renault 11014 for drawing silage and also held its own against a mf 399, wouldnt say we were easy on it as it currently rests in two pieces when we broke the chassis when stacking round bales.

perhaps we just got good going yokes? the 6cyl was a dream for speed, no breaks and done years of work and hardship contracting, would beat the 7710 ford that was bought but the leylaand didnt have 1000rpm shaft for mower. things we remeber from childhood:rolleyes:

shanemc123

Oh dear they don't sound to be a very reliable tractor.anything else you can recommend??

himwdah

shanemc123 wrote: »

Oh dear they don't sound to be a very reliable tractor.anything else you can recommend??

id consider an international, seem goo value and good reliable tractor but have never owned one

Manoffeeling

himwdah wrote: »

good rust free are rare, never had any real reliablity issuse and we have had a few , 384 with a 6cyl fitted, 2 802 marshalls and 1 272 leyland, no major issuses, just a note the 802 replaced a renault 11014 for drawing silage and also held its own against a mf 399, wouldnt say we were easy on it as it currently rests in two pieces when we broke the chassis when stacking round bales.

perhaps we just got good going yokes? the 6cyl was a dream for speed, no breaks and done years of work and hardship contracting, would beat the 7710 ford that was bought but the leylaand didnt have 1000rpm shaft for mower. things we remeber from childhood:rolleyes:

7710 was a king of a tractor. Lovely on the road or field.

international 785

himwdah wrote: »

id consider an international, seem goo value and good reliable tractor but have never owned one

an international 785 is a very reliable tractor i drove one for 10 years and nothing big ever went wrong and they are very good for desiel youd forget the last time you filled it. and a david brown 996 is a equelly good

jimmyw

iverjohnston wrote: »

No splitter or syncro on the ranges.

They do have synchro, after all they really are the same as the leyland 282/482 synchro in different clothes, except 282 synchro had dry brakes, Marshall had wet brakes.

http://www.thenuffieldandleylandtractorclub.co.uk/wp/wp-content/themes/nuffield/images%20two/Specifications%20Marshall%20802.pdf

http://www.donedeal.ie/find/tractors/for-sale/Ireland/marshall%20802?filter%28max_price%29=Max&filter%28min_price%29=Min&source=all

iverjohnston

jimmyw wrote: »

They do have synchro, after all they really are the same as the leyland 282/482 synchro in different clothes, except 282 synchro had dry brakes, Marshall had wet brakes.

You're right,
Syncro on the gear lever, 1,2,3, and reverse all right, but had forgot that there was syncro on Low, Medium and High lever.

High reverse was an incredibly fast reverse, almost pointless. Good for showing off, however.....................

Zr105

iverjohnston wrote: »

jimmyw wrote: »

They do have synchro, after all they really are the same as the leyland 282/482 synchro in different clothes, except 282 synchro had dry brakes, Marshall had wet brakes.

You're right,
Syncro on the gear lever, 1,2,3, and reverse all right, but had forgot that there was syncro on Low, Medium and High lever.

High reverse was an incredibly fast reverse, almost pointless. Good for showing off, however.....................

The synchro on reverse caught a lot of lads out when they first appeared. Dad had a 272 here, a lad was in the yard on day and brought it for a spin, dad went with him and headin down the road dad coped him dipping the clutch for fourth said hold on thats reverse, got the reply"it couldn't be sure its never go into gear" he started to let out clutch before he realised the lad that owned the bloody thing new more than him.... was ok though and no damage done thankfully!

jimmyw

The synchro was a sweet little box on the leyland anyway, assume the marshalls were the same,very easy to get into gear without any difficulty just as good as any car would be.I cant remember how fast reverse was, but I take yere word for that.GEEK ALERT!:o......The non synchro boxes had 10 forward and 2 reverse I think, and the synchros had one less,i.e 9 forward and 3 reverse.


I've seen total rust bucket Marshalls been advertised for a lot of money and others that are in good condition bodywise, but not so good on the mechanicals.Its rare to get one in good condition now on bothe counts.

Zr105

jimmyw wrote: »

The synchro was a sweet little box on the leyland anyway, assume the marshalls were the same,very easy to get into gear without any difficulty just as good as any car would be.I cant remember how fast reverse was, but I take yere word for that.GEEK ALERT!:o......The non synchro boxes had 10 forward and 2 reverse I think, and the synchros had one less,i.e 9 forward and 3 reverse.


I've seen total rust bucket Marshalls been advertised for a lot of money and others that are in good condition bodywise, but not so good on the mechanicals.Its rare to get one in good condition now on bothe counts.

Yep synchros were 9 and 3, 1,2,3 and reverse on one side of the seat and high low medium on the other, and yep very same gearbox, as said earlier diff breaks tho.

There were a few of them here but i only ever really drove the 272, the 802 was gone before i started to drive but it was a grand tractor! Even as a young lad i found the gear stick locations handy out! Just drop the hand beside you and it fell on the lever!

iverjohnston

the 272 syncro we owned had the levers on the centre , and the non q cab , without the hydraulic actuated brakes. This seems to have been a less common model.

himwdah

iverjohnston wrote: »

the 272 syncro we owned had the levers on the centre , and the non q cab , without the hydraulic actuated brakes. This seems to have been a less common model.

r u sure it was syncro, there was some 10spd 272s made, i would prefer them as they have more speed in top and a better reverse, but the sycro leyland and marshalls were very well geared for loader work, miss ours now.

iverjohnston

No it was def. a syncro. Just had the usual cab same as a 384 etc. 8146 ID registration number. Traded in to W R Shaw in Laois against a Fiat 90-90 about 12 years ago. We had a 384 and before that Nuffield 10/60's so I know all about the differences, and the brakes,, clutches etc.

They really were a 1950's design under modern clothes, front axle was still same as the Nuffield Universal. Sometimes you would think should have kept it, as probably was allowed very little trade in for it, but in reality, better to move it on .