horse meat scandal - wil Ireland tell the truth

faral

very interesting article about aftermath of horse meat scandal does Ireland is covering the truth?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/10/horsemeat-scandal-fear-culprits-justice

freedominacup

faral wrote: »

very interesting article about aftermath of horse meat scandal does Ireland is covering the truth?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/10/horsemeat-scandal-fear-culprits-justice

The biggest scandal in all of this has been the ease with which the supermarkets have been able to wash their hands of any responsibility in this debacle despite their relentless downward pressure on pricing, something had to give but they get away clean. To my mind they are hugely complicit in this.

Watch some of Jimmy and the Giant supermarket episodes to see how major supermarkets deal with suppliers. The conversation during his sales pitch went basically price, price, price, price, you have a wonderful product, price, price, price, your traceability is fine, price ,price,price, great concept, price, price, price, but we can buy this s**t here at price, price, price, and this gives us margin, price, price, price, price, price. They don't care how good or bad a product is providing they can shift volume at what they consider a good margin. And when you squeeze everything that can be got from a supplier and then go back for more something will give either the supplier will go under or a corner will be cut. Not an excuse or an apology for what happened. I'm just pointing out that I think one of the major culprits got away. The supermarkets know what products can be delivered to them for and they aren't happy if anyone else in the supply chain has any margin.

Jonblack

NO

Dampintheattic

WTF, would either or those two venerable instituions, The British Parliment, or the Daily Telegraph, know about the "truth".
Telegraph is nothing more than toilet paper, with a nasty anti Irish leaning right to its core.

seanmacc

If we cast an eye back to 2001 with the height of the foot and mouth crisis in the UK you could start hypothesising a cover up and conspiracy that probably wasn't there also.

During the foot and mouth crisis how could a disease so widespread across the UK barely touch ground over here. The disinfectant mats and luggage spraying couldn't of been that effective could they? Were Irish heards infected and hidden away from plain sight until the problem disappeared?

I think this is a case where a journalist puts two and two together and gets five. Just because the agricultural and food industry is so important over here doesn't mean dark forces will circle the wagons and go as far as to kill to cover things up.

I'd go the other way and say that other European food authorities knew about the horse meat and chose to turn a blind eye.

faral

Dampintheattic wrote: »

WTF, would either or those two venerable instituions, The British Parliment, or the Daily Telegraph, know about the "truth".
Telegraph is nothing more than toilet paper, with a nasty anti Irish leaning right to its core.

just to clarify this is the guardian not Daily telegraph

kowtow

Dampintheattic wrote: »

WTF, would either or those two venerable instituions, The British Parliment, or the Daily Telegraph, know about the "truth".
Telegraph is nothing more than toilet paper, with a nasty anti Irish leaning right to its core.

What's the Telegraph got to do with it?

And although I despise the Guardian, that article contained more lucid journalism and detail than I have seen in the Irish papers in recent years.

There is a gap of standards at work here - Coveney for example, if he was a UK minister, would have to distance himself pretty explicitly from the investigation because there *is* a clear conflict of interest. A conflict is not a problem in itself, it's how he manages (and is seen to manage it) which is important.

just do it

I would say the Irish will probably be as truthful as any other European nation. At this stage a significant number of countries have shown up horse meat so the UK pointing the finger of blame at us is a bit rich. Their own food safety standards are open to question and for Ireland's sake I hope we don't go with their model!