Close Protection Course

KwackerJack

As the title says I'm looking for a close protection course.

Looking for good reliable trainers not cowboys!

Anyone know these guys?

http://www.euseca.com/

Working in Security a few years and I am looking to go into Close Protection Overseas.

I have done mostly investigation / Surveillance work and cash and Transit (Private).

Any info be much appreciated

And yea I know the dangers but life's to short to think what if!

TomRooney

I have a few contacts in the CP world, from what they've told me the best courses internationally would be the Ronin South Africa course or the new SOS CP course that is ran in Iraq.

Besides those you have the big names in the UK, excellentia, Phoenix G4S, Galahad and several others all well known with good reputations.

Here in Ireland probably the best regarded course would be the easterhill course ran by ex army ranger wing most of whom have private security experience in the middle east.

But none of that really matters, what is more important is who you know. You will find it hard to get a start in close protection even if you're ex special forces unless you already have some good contacts. The industry is currently flooded with ex British military and just doing a CP course will not be enough to make you stand out, forget about hostile environment work unless you have a minimum 6 years in the military with a few trips overseas.

But if you know the right people it can be done, if you don't know people already in the industry you would be better off networking first before you spend any money on a course.

KwackerJack

Hi Tom thanks for the reply!

I know a few ex-Rangers who I have worked with in the past here in Ireland and my aim at the moment would not be the middle east but within personal CP and not here in Ireland as it practically non existent!

I will have a talk with them and see what they recommend!

Thanks for the Training names!

AllthingsCP

TomRooney wrote: »

I have a few contacts in the CP world, from what they've told me the best courses internationally would be the Ronin South Africa course or the new SOS CP course that is ran in Iraq.

Besides those you have the big names in the UK, excellentia, Phoenix G4S, Galahad and several others all well known with good reputations.

Here in Ireland probably the best regarded course would be the easterhill course ran by ex army ranger wing most of whom have private security experience in the middle east.

But none of that really matters, what is more important is who you know. You will find it hard to get a start in close protection even if you're ex special forces unless you already have some good contacts. The industry is currently flooded with ex British military and just doing a CP course will not be enough to make you stand out, forget about hostile environment work unless you have a minimum 6 years in the military with a few trips overseas.

But if you know the right people it can be done, if you don't know people already in the industry you would be better off networking first before you spend any money on a course.

Spot on Post and Answer to the OP question

5.11 Tactical

If you thinking of doing them abroad I would recommend Israel,it is a little more expensive but the guys training you are some of the best SF in the world and all have had extensive operational experience.

I did mine last summer it was expensive but more than worth it and also no limatations on weapons there.

I also have a friend who helps runs aggresivevets in North Carolina in the US, again a good level headed group.

But if it is down to cost eastern europe has a lot also to offer.

Greenshield

Hi all, first time poster and I am looking for some advice on CP courses and looking for some intel on CP courses in Ireland. I have my PSA and also served in the military for a short time (2.5years), but it didnt suit me at the time and I moved on to other things (namely taxi driving).

anyway, I hope to do a CP course in Ireland and a few different groups where recommended to me. If necessary I can do it abroad but I would prefer to do it in Ireland, because at least then I can keep working!!! One of my mates recommended a group called Control Risk Management Solutions (CRMS) - but I can't find any links to CRMS and I think they have gone bust, do you know if anyone else is doing CP training (preferbaly in the Leinster area) thanks !!!!

uchgdave

Hi Im interested in this type of course as well , plenty of experience from my days in the reserves .

Ive also done the PSA course , but its very hard to get any decent pay in the static guard game ,

Im also fully kitted out with combat gear , nightvision , battle vest , camera , bluetooth earpice , scanner , and tactical comms gear .

ammo clips from airsoft rifles really do look the part on the battle vest .

I can Pm or email photos .

Im in the western part of the country .

Savage93

uchgdave wrote: »

Hi Im interested in this type of course as well , plenty of experience from my days in the reserves .

Ive also done the PSA course , but its very hard to get any decent pay in the static guard game ,

Im also fully kitted out with combat gear , nightvision , battle vest , camera , bluetooth earpice , scanner , and tactical comms gear .

ammo clips from airsoft rifles really do look the part on the battle vest .

I can Pm or email photos .

Im in the western part of the country .

Well , well, look who's back, just been released again after some psychiatric treatment for delusions. Welcome back Dave . Wonder what fantasies you'll come up with this time UCHGDave, HopperDavy, Investment and whatever other banned characters live in your deluded head

AllthingsCP

Savage93 wrote: »

Well , well, look who's back, just been released again after some psychiatric treatment for delusions. Welcome back Dave . Wonder what fantasies you'll come up with this time UCHGDave, HopperDavy, Investment and whatever other banned characters live in your deluded head

This that guy for real?

Owryan

uchgdave wrote: »

Hi Im interested in this type of course as well , plenty of experience from my days in the reserves .

Ive also done the PSA course , but its very hard to get any decent pay in the static guard game ,

Im also fully kitted out with combat gear , nightvision , battle vest , camera , bluetooth earpice , scanner , and tactical comms gear .

ammo clips from airsoft rifles really do look the part on the battle vest .

I can Pm or email photos .

Im in the western part of the country .

Hows the fake garda car/army nissan patrol project going ? Did you ever get the radio kits?

cjb1861

First time poster but thought I would give some advice for those looking to get in to CP in hostile environments.

Having worked in the industry in numerous roles and various countries such as Iraq, Africa and Afghanistan, the current status is that the industry is flooded at the moment with a relatively small number of jobs compared to a few years ago when business was booming. I have been on contracts with in excess of 1000 operators, however that just isn't happening these days. Contracts are small and competition is high to get these positions. Operators with years of experience are currently sat at home chasing work and I agree with a previous post that its not what you know, its not who you know.... Its what you know about who you know!

Those that wish to get in to the industry will struggle to get work unless they have a current network that are in a position to hire staff. With the amount of operators out of work it would be naive to think that a 3 week course will give you the edge on getting a job no matter which course you choose. I do not ask people which course they did, it makes no odds to me, what I am concerned about it their experience and being static guard or doorman just doesn't cut it. I need to know that when the s**t hits the fan I have operators around me that I can trust and that I know can deal with the situation professionally.

My background, british military for 13 years with several operational tours in Iraq, Bosnia, Afghanistan, CP in Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa, Gaza all with reputable companies. Yes there are cowboys, mostly in early Iraq days however some do still get through the net nowadays but these are quickly found out and sent home. Pretty much all operators I know will hardly ever recommend someone due to the fact that if their recommendation turns foul their name is tarnished as well. In 10 years I have only ever recommended 2 people for work and that is only down to the fact that it was my project and I knew they would be able to do the job.

In summary, if looking to get in the industry, prepare yourself for a pipe dream unless you have a solid contact that has offered you work. Without previous operational service overseas or military service where you have commanded teams you may as well look at other options as this isn't for you. If by some chance you get offered a job, take it even if the daily rate is shocking - its a foot in the door and gets you that ever important experience. I know guys that have worked 8 years in Iraq looking for work in Afghanistan and getting turned down for a low paid job as they didnt have country experience.

cruasder777

cjb1861 wrote: »

First time poster but thought I would give some advice for those looking to get in to CP in hostile environments.

Having worked in the industry in numerous roles and various countries such as Iraq, Africa and Afghanistan, the current status is that the industry is flooded at the moment with a relatively small number of jobs compared to a few years ago when business was booming. I have been on contracts with in excess of 1000 operators, however that just isn't happening these days. Contracts are small and competition is high to get these positions. Operators with years of experience are currently sat at home chasing work and I agree with a previous post that its not what you know, its not who you know.... Its what you know about who you know!

Those that wish to get in to the industry will struggle to get work unless they have a current network that are in a position to hire staff. With the amount of operators out of work it would be naive to think that a 3 week course will give you the edge on getting a job no matter which course you choose. I do not ask people which course they did, it makes no odds to me, what I am concerned about it their experience and being static guard or doorman just doesn't cut it. I need to know that when the s**t hits the fan I have operators around me that I can trust and that I know can deal with the situation professionally.

My background, british military for 13 years with several operational tours in Iraq, Bosnia, Afghanistan, CP in Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa, Gaza all with reputable companies. Yes there are cowboys, mostly in early Iraq days however some do still get through the net nowadays but these are quickly found out and sent home. Pretty much all operators I know will hardly ever recommend someone due to the fact that if their recommendation turns foul their name is tarnished as well. In 10 years I have only ever recommended 2 people for work and that is only down to the fact that it was my project and I knew they would be able to do the job.

In summary, if looking to get in the industry, prepare yourself for a pipe dream unless you have a solid contact that has offered you work. Without previous operational service overseas or military service where you have commanded teams you may as well look at other options as this isn't for you. If by some chance you get offered a job, take it even if the daily rate is shocking - its a foot in the door and gets you that ever important experience. I know guys that have worked 8 years in Iraq looking for work in Afghanistan and getting turned down for a low paid job as they didnt have country experience.

Be interesting to see what happens after ISIS are gone, but agree the market is flooded.