whats the best precision chop silage harvester

GERMAN ROCKS

what are the best precision chop silage harvesters. Have a budget of around €6-8k for one. its only to do my own so around 120 acres a year. leaning towards a Mengele sh40 as I have some experience with them.

6480

GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »

what are the best precision chop silage harvesters. Have a budget of around €6-8k for one. its only to do my own so around 120 acres a year. leaning towards a Mengele sh40 as I have some experience with them.

i seen a few good looking mengele s on donedeal for around your budget , they are a good machine but a blow up can be costly , a jf is ok if a blow up happens

hammer73

6480 wrote: »

i seen a few good looking mengele s on donedeal for around your budget , they are a good machine but a blow up can be costly , a jf is ok if a blow up happens

Couldn't agree more. Jf soft but easily put right. Flywheel machines may be better but harder to put right if you pick something up.

royalmeath

Have you got trailers and a mower if not your going to need to spend the guts of another 20,000 to get two good trailers and a good moco

GERMAN ROCKS

royalmeath wrote: »

Have you got trailers and a mower if not your going to need to spend the guts of another 20,000 to get two good trailers and a good moco

yes I have 3 16ft single axles and an 8ft mower with conditioner and a loader with a pike.
the way the system works here is that I mow it and the contractor comes in and rakes the 8ft swards and just brings the self propelled. thing is I cant get him till in the season as he does all his bigger jobs first since he is only bringing the self propelled to me a such.
I will be happy out taking up the 8ft sward on its own but I will have to release one of the tractors from my trailers and put that on the harvester and then I was thinking the neighbours son would probably draw with his tractor and my trailer so overcome that shortfall.
with my own harvester I am not dependent on the contractor and can cut it earlier and get better quality.

how does the jf operate. I know the Mengele has the flywheel but what does the jf have instead.

cjpm

GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »

how does the jf operate. I know the Mengele has the flywheel but what does the jf have instead.

http://www.jf-stoll.com/Default.aspx?ID=4076

Pics here will explain. The rotor cuts as it moves upwards and throws the stuff straight out the chute.

moy83

I dont know much about the percision chops , but I'd say if you could still get the contractor in to double up the rows , it would save you a bit of time spinning up and down the 8' rows picking up

F.D

mengele is a good machine great blow out of it , worked a tarrup 10x before and found it very soft lots of trouble, contractor had changed from a jf which was very good to it to try and increase output, it was what the 10x that eventually made him go to a self prop

foxer3640

you could also consider a pottinger mex 6. Not too power hungry and a decent output for a trailed machine. I contracted with one for a number of years before I went to the sp. I kept mine and ended up using it last year to finish a job after I picked up a stone with the sp and it brought back fond memorys of actually making a few bob at the silage instead of giving it all to the oil man. Their probably a little softer than the mengle from what I can remember but a stone will make a fair mess of any flywheel machine. Whatever you do don't be tempted by a "cheap" self propelled. There's no such thing. Hope this helps.

GERMAN ROCKS

moy83 wrote: »

I dont know much about the percision chops , but I'd say if you could still get the contractor in to double up the rows , it would save you a bit of time spinning up and down the 8' rows picking up

his rake pulls in 3 ten foot swards so that's out the question. will do with the 8fts for a few years. plan maybe next year to trade the mower for a 10ft. many belts and chains them in the jf?

yellow50HX

GERMAN ROCKS wrote: »

his rake pulls in 3 ten foot swards so that's out the question. will do with the 8fts for a few years. plan maybe next year to trade the mower for a 10ft. many belts and chains them in the jf?

What size tractor have you for driving the harvestor! You could hire in a big tractor to pull the harvester, neighbour of mineable does that, gets a big yoke in to pick up 20ft swards, allows him to pick up a lot of grass but at a slower pace, less likely to do damage.

himwdah

8ft swaths will have a sh40 chocking and splutering, flywheel harvesters neeed a good flow of grass, 16ft would be better, for single swath id go jf 900, it will lift 10ft as good as the flywheel and cheaper easier to fix, just keep it tight to the shearbar, that is the only hard part and where most opperaters fail its easier to adjust the flywheel yokes tighte to flywheel but not all flywheel sharpening stones sharp the full length of the knives and then a space gets at the shearbar and then they get hard to drive and wear the shearbar and knives quicker.

id go jf and have used ours in the same field as the mex6 and ten x, its double rows the flywheel machines come into thier own.

aidanki

what hp have you to power a harvester

GERMAN ROCKS

mf 6290 140hp
or I might try the mf 3095 110hp on it aswell and leave it on this if it was coping as the 6290 is handier for drawing.