Advice on taking B+W Photos

Sgt Pepper 64

Looking for advice on taking B+W photos.
Mainly of trees and cars.
I normally shoot AP with it set to 11 and in raw.
Not sure if this is the best setting
But not too sure what to do it with the image once I have it.
I have Adobe, so do just apply B+W filter or play around with tones

Im looking to produce dark and moody shots but with detail

something like this

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2147/1535930408_91c82cb145.jpg

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs26/f/2008/040/1/2/Black_and_White_Woods_by_Silent_Broken_Wish.jpg

http://wallpaper-million.com/Wallpapers/f/Classics/Ruined-car-in-black-and-white-wallpaper_5083.jpg

http://masters.galleries.dpreview.com.s3.amazonaws.com/2514623.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=14Y3MT0G2J4Y72K3ZXR2&Expires=1368009559&Signature=UxI72DGAjUXC7SdJt875GMa0mFg%3d

Thanks

Ben D Bus

I find Mike Browne's YouTube videos to be among the best photography tutorials on YT. This one might not be his best but it does show options for converting to B&W in Photoshop

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7aDtanXkkQ

ImagenEstilo

My tuppence worth:

Don't shoot at f/11. I would tend to drop it to f/8 ish for longer focal lengths and maybe f/5.6 for wider angles. This is all about getting max sharpness.

In terms of post processing, in my own experience the best B&W conversion out there is Silver Efex Pro. I have not come across anything better and it has a ton of options. If you have photoshop then download a trial from the Nik site (now owned by Google) and give it a whirl. It is awesome. In fact, they have the whole Nik suite of S/W on offer for $149. Root around for a discount code and you can get it for $120. With this you get Color Efex Pro, Silver Efex Pro, Define, Vivazza, HDR Pro and a sharpening tool. The HDR S/W is a bit sh1t but the other stuff is excellent.

I find the standard B&W conversions in any standalone program rather poor. Best using a B&W specific program.