How many .1 can u get back in a year

jokser250

Just wondering is there a limit

big_drive

There is, but I can't remember exactly now. Think it might be 2 full shots is the most your handicap can increase in a year. Don't know is there a limit on .1's or just the increase. If a guy gets a cut then it will take him more than 20 .1's to get there compared to someone with no cuts to handicap.

Mr. Larson

I'll let you know in August!

ShriekingSheet

Mr. Larson wrote: »

I'll let you know in August!

There is no limit to the amount you can get.

The limit is to how far your handicap can go up, which is 2.0 shots.

If you start at 10.0 and over 20 rounds go up to 12.0, you can go no higher, regardless of performance.

If you then play well and get cut .6 to 11.4, any subsequent bad rounds will mean you can go back as high as 12.0.

So in that instance, you have 26 .1s applied, but never breach the limit of 2 full shots of your starting handicap.

cgh

OP, i know plenty of people play to ge 0.1's back, I'd be setting a gaol of how many shots i can get off my Handicap. this year i hope to get down to 15 if i can currently off 17.

Russman

Slightly related, apologies Op for the slight threadjack

Someone was telling me yesterday that from this year you now need to play 15 holes in order to get 0.1 back, anyone know if this is true ?

Mr. Larson

Russman wrote: »

Slightly related, apologies Op for the slight threadjack

Someone was telling me yesterday that from this year you now need to play 15 holes in order to get 0.1 back, anyone know if this is true ?

How can you police that? If I'm out playing and I scratch the last 5 through bad play, how can you differentiate between that and someone sandbagging?

ShriekingSheet

Mr. Larson wrote: »

How can you police that? If I'm out playing and I scratch the last 5 through bad play, how can you differentiate between that and someone sandbagging?

I could be wrong, but it sounds like one of those made-up rules passed around.

Mr. Larson

I'd support the intention but just can't see how it could be applied fairly.

Nothing worse than seeing some dickhead play 4 holes the week before Presidents for his 0.1, then walk off the 4th green, hop into the car & head off to play for the Club an hour later. Never any intention to play 18 like... blatant and somewhat condoned by the club by selecting someone like that in the first place.

ssbob

Mr. Larson wrote: »

I'd support the intention but just can't see how it could be applied fairly.

Nothing worse than seeing some dickhead play 4 holes the week before Presidents for his 0.1, then walk off the 4th green, hop into the car & head off to play for the Club an hour later. Never any intention to play 18 like... blatant and somewhat condoned by the club by selecting someone like that in the first place.

Well it might cut out the NR's aswell, that absolutely drives me mad!

Russman

Mr. Larson wrote: »

I'd support the intention but just can't see how it could be applied fairly.

Nothing worse than seeing some dickhead play 4 holes the week before Presidents for his 0.1, then walk off the 4th green, hop into the car & head off to play for the Club an hour later. Never any intention to play 18 like... blatant and somewhat condoned by the club by selecting someone like that in the first place.

It could well be one of those urban myths alright, it was news to me anyway.

Agree with the policing issue, presumably you'd be expected to fill out a 7, 8, 9 or whatever on at least one of the last 3 holes rather than pick up.....I dunno ?

I'll bet the guy playing 4 holes to get 0.1 rarely actually wins the Presidents though .

Re the inter club bit above, lots of clubs "prepare" teams, especially in the mid handicap range, particularly late in the year with a view to the following season - its a case of "if you can't beat them, join them" unfortunately. My club don't and always wonder why they get their ar$e$ handed to them in the inter club.....
Doesn't make it right, but it'll never be stamped out.

GreeBo

Russman wrote: »

It could well be one of those urban myths alright, it was news to me anyway.

Agree with the policing issue, presumably you'd be expected to fill out a 7, 8, 9 or whatever on at least one of the last 3 holes rather than pick up.....I dunno ?

I'll bet the guy playing 4 holes to get 0.1 rarely actually wins the Presidents though .

Re the inter club bit above, lots of clubs "prepare" teams, especially in the mid handicap range, particularly late in the year with a view to the following season - its a case of "if you can't beat them, join them" unfortunately. My club don't and always wonder why they get their ar$e$ handed to them in the inter club.....
Doesn't make it right, but it'll never be stamped out.

You put a nett double bogey down for any unplayed holes.
Its to allow for unfinished rounds due to weather, illness etc.

Nemesis

Yup..

glad you edited it

Actually don't you put down a NR which is calculated as a net double bogey for handicap purposes?

Wassily Kandinsky

Question: If you start at 10. Get 12 .1's to get to 11.2 then get cut 2.2 so ur current is 9, are u allowed 30 more .1's to get to 12 so that ur finishing handicap is 12 just 20 .1's higher than starting handicap? Sounds complicated but if someone has definate answer i would like to know. Btw its not me. Question came up and i have my opinions that i could rant about for hours!

ShriekingSheet wrote: »

There is no limit to the amount you can get.

The limit is to how far your handicap can go up, which is 2.0 shots.

If you start at 10.0 and over 20 rounds go up to 12.0, you can go no higher, regardless of performance.

If you then play well and get cut .6 to 11.4, any subsequent bad rounds will mean you can go back as high as 12.0.

So in that instance, you have 26 .1s applied, but never breach the limit of 2 full shots of your starting handicap.

GreeBo

Whatever you start at the start of the year, 2 more is the most you can go up, regardless of how many cuts you get in between.

For Ireland (only) it is 2.0 shots from your lowest.

ShivasIrons

GreeBo wrote: »

Whatever you start at the start of the year, 2 more is the most you can go up, regardless of how many cuts you get in between.

Isn't it 2.0 from your lowest during the year that you can go up?

Arsenium

ShivasIrons wrote: »

Isn't it 2.0 from your lowest during the year that you can go up?

That was my understanding. But purely based on a conversation on here from a while ago.

So if you are off 12 at the start of the year and drop to 10, the highest you can then finish the year is 12. As in 20 x 0.1 on top of your lowest handicap during the year. I havent seen it anywhere official though.

PARlance

Can't copy and paste from this on the phone but here's a link to a very useful document for all queries really.

Bottom of page 38 for this one.

2.0 shots above lowest point.

https://www.gui.ie/handicap-manual/congu_2012_correct-pdf.aspx

Wassily Kandinsky

Thanks for reply greebo.

does that mean that this scenario is possible.

start at 12.0

get cut to 10.0

get 40 .1's

finish at 14.0

or is your lowest in the year regarded as starting point for max 20 .1's on top of that?

so that in above scenario that 12.0 is the max finishing handicap.

also does that mean it is possible to get an infinite number of .1's if you start at 12.0, go out to 13.0, get cut say .8, get 8 more .1's and continue between 12 and 14 for the year and then finish at 14.0?

GreeBo

ShivasIrons wrote: »

Isn't it 2.0 from your lowest during the year that you can go up?

Yeah, just confirmed that it is from your lowest, but in GUI/ILGU only. All other CONGU unions are 2.0 from the starting point.

Wassily Kandinsky wrote: »

Thanks for reply greebo.

does that mean that this scenario is possible.

start at 12.0

get cut to 10.0

get 40 .1's

finish at 14.0

or is your lowest in the year regarded as starting point for max 20 .1's on top of that?

so that in above scenario that 12.0 is the max finishing handicap.

also does that mean it is possible to get an infinite number of .1's if you start at 12.0, go out to 13.0, get cut say .8, get 8 more .1's and continue between 12 and 14 for the year and then finish at 14.0?

So the number of 0.1s is irrelevant.
In a single year you can never be more than 2.0 shots more than the lowest handicap you held that year.

You could start the year at 10, get cut to 7 and then its not possible for you to get back to 10 that year (other than medical reasons etc)

Webbs

GreeBo wrote: »

Yeah, just confirmed that it is from your lowest, but in GUI/ILGU only. All other CONGU unions are 2.0 from the starting point.

Is this an indictment on how bad in Ireland the handicap building is in comparison to the other CONGU unions! Certainly seems so

Russman

Webbs wrote: »

Is this an indictment on how bad in Ireland the handicap building is in comparison to the other CONGU unions! Certainly seems so

Coupled with the ESR being mandatory in Ireland and discretionary in the other CONGU unions, you'd think so.