New Dacia Duster V Used Skoda Octavia

gripcasey

Just trying to figure out which to do. Was going to buy a used Skoda Octavia 1.6 diesel 2012 hopefully. Then seen the Dacia Duster which is actually a bit cheaper. has everything I require I know its not very well specked out but that wouldn't bother me. Any got any advice for me?

gowley

depends on the price of the octavia. you should get it at a pretty good price compared to a new one because of depreciation. once you drive a new car out of the showroom it loses value straight away. would never buy a brand new car because of this. demo models possibly. the dacia is new to the market so depreciation levels impossible to gauge.

gowley

http://www.carsvw.com/2012/05/skoda-superb-vs-volkswagen-passat/ another verdict just look at the last lines in this.

Leonard Hofstadter

As long as you avoid the Duster that's the main thing. Why anyone would want an unsafe, low spec (even by Irish standards) car just because it looks like a pseudo SUV is beyond me.

Toyotafanboi

what's your budget? do you have a car to trade in?

Zirconia

gowley wrote: »

http://www.carsvw.com/2012/05/skoda-superb-vs-volkswagen-passat/ another verdict just look at the last lines in this.

Just to note though (1) this is referring to the Superb, not the Octavia and (2), that the Passat in that review is not the European Passat, but the North American Passat - a completely different car than we have here, with no shared major structural elements at all. So none of that is really relevant!

gripcasey

I have a Vauxhall Astra 1.3 Diesel 75 k miles and Budget 12k at most. Was also looking at Passat but a lot have very high miles.

AltAccount

I think we need a poll on this thread so we can all vote for the Octavia and you can get on with picking the nicest one.

Bpmull

I'd go for the octavia my mother has an 11 elegance one and likes it. The only thing is you won't get a 12 elegance spec octavia for 16k euro or whatever the duster costs. And defiantly don't buy a classic spec octavia as they have to be the most basic car they have nothing. Ambiente is not too bad but try and get an elegance spec.

NobodyImportant

Avoid the Duster. Buy the Octavia.

Buy anything other than the Duster. God awful car and its depreciation will be some of the worst Ireland has ever seen.

listermint

Yep drive both of them then see which one you like.

R.O.R

NobodyImportant wrote: »

Avoid the Duster. Buy the Octavia.

Buy anything other than the Duster. God awful car and its depreciation will be some of the worst Ireland has ever seen.

With limited supply, and a very low starting price, my opinion is that it will probably have some of the lowest depreciation in the market place.

I may be proved wrong in time, but the less money a car has to lose, the less it loses is the general rule of thumb. That's why Renault had some of the lowest TCO's against competitors for the past few years.

Tea 1000

gowley wrote: »

depends on the price of the octavia. you should get it at a pretty good price compared to a new one because of depreciation. once you drive a new car out of the showroom it loses value straight away. would never buy a brand new car because of this. demo models possibly. the dacia is new to the market so depreciation levels impossible to gauge.

Don't be silly. Who in their right mind would sell a car just after driving it out of a showroom? What about other things in life? A pair of shoes? The minute you buy them they're worth only a fraction of what you paid for them!

gowley

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Don't be silly. Who in their right mind would sell a car just after driving it out of a showroom? What about other things in life? A pair of shoes? The minute you buy them they're worth only a fraction of what you paid for them!

thought we were talking about cars in this thread. must have missed the posts regarding shoes and other things in life. stick to the thread and if you want to talk shoes head for the fashion section.

colm_mcm

gowley wrote: »

thought we were talking about cars in this thread. must have missed the posts regarding shoes and other things in life. stick to the thread and if you want to talk shoes head for the fashion section.

He's right though, the day you buy isn't really the day you sell.

Also with the Octavia, there's a new model out so you can either buy one of those, buy a demo model (which won't be discounted that much) or buy the old model.

porsche boy

i'd reckon on calling all the Skoda dealers in Ireland to see if they have any 131 reg old model Octavia Demo's for sale, I'd reckon savage savings to be had on them...

As for the Duster, Dacia are owned by Renault; purveyor of some of the most horrid cheap plastic, unreliable, undesirable, electrically troubled piles of splodge to ever be seen on Irish roads. If you are wondering about depreciation on an unknown manufacturer, check out how cheap Ssangyong's or Tata's are now. Maybe if I needed a cheap commercial faux 4x4 for a business or something...

Bpmull

porsche boy wrote: »

i'd reckon on calling all the Skoda dealers in Ireland to see if they have any 131 reg old model Octavia Demo's for sale, I'd reckon savage savings to be had on them...

You still won't buy a demo for anywhere near 16k euro there not that cheap. Most of the last one were speced upto with leather etc I think they were selling for 24k euro ish. I'd say you'd be doing well to get one for 20k euro. But then it would be worth spending the extra to get one. Not that I have anything against the duster but you can see the savings in some places.

gowley

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Skoda/Octavia/1.6-TDi-/34913674005900280/advert?channel=CARS heres a 12 with very basic spec listed at 17k. you would probably get a bit off that as well list on this was probably 22k think its the entry level active

colm_mcm

gowley wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Skoda/Octavia/1.6-TDi-/34913674005900280/advert?channel=CARS heres a 12 with very basic spec listed at 17k. you would probably get a bit off that as well list on this was probably 22k think its the entry level active

Mph only clocks on that are a pain I'd say

gowley

colm_mcm wrote: »

Mph only clocks on that are a pain I'd say

didnt notice that. wouldnt that mean it was an import. is the s unusual here aswell. arent they usually active ambition etc

Bpmull

gowley wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Skoda/Octavia/1.6-TDi-/34913674005900280/advert?channel=CARS heres a 12 with very basic spec listed at 17k. you would probably get a bit off that as well list on this was probably 22k think its the entry level active

To call that basic is an understatement tbh. No DRL's, no fogs, no alloys, not even colour coded mirrors, no centre arm rest, no rear arm rest or walnut dash, no fuel climate control, no sat nav, no lights under the mirrors, no cruise control, or steering controls at all, no rear parking sensors. We have two octavia's and that one would be a bleak place to be. See my above post your so much better off with the elegance spec with the toys. It's also English see mph clocks. 17k is a good price but the only thing that. Car has going for it is the 12 plates on it.

colm_mcm

Well you can see the uk plate on it

gowley

lol didnt notice that either.:

gowley

Bpmull wrote: »

To call that basic is an understatement tbh. No DRL's, no fogs, no alloys, not even colour coded mirrors, no centre arm rest, no rear arm rest or walnut dash, no fuel climate control, no sat nav, no lights under the mirrors, no cruise control, or steering controls at all, no rear parking sensors. We have two octavia's and that one would be a bleak place to be. She my above post your so much better off with the elegance spec with the toys. It's also English see mph clocks. 17k is a good price but the only thing that. Car has going for it is the 12 plates on it.

thats why i called it very basic

Bpmull

gowley wrote: »

thats why i called it very basic

I was only pointing out a few of the differences between the specs that's not them all. It's just if I was in the ops position I'd drop back a year and get the better spec. I'm not trying to down your post or anything it is a cheap 12 car and ideal if you want to get from a to b using minium fuel out one done 62mpg before on a long journey. They are a great car my dad in perticular loves them there was a few months he was doing 8k km per month in our ones and thought they were very comfortable. I suppose it really just depends whether the op wants spec or year? If they want a cheap 12 octavia you've hit the nail on the head I just wouldn't personally drive on I've been in that spec at dealers there's a reason why there's no interior pictures of that car in the ad yes their that plain inside just black plastic that's it.

gowley

Bpmull wrote: »

I was only pointing out a few of the differences between the specs that's not them all. It's just if I was in the ops position I'd drop back a year and get the better spec. I'm not trying to down your post or anything it is a cheap 12 car and ideal if you want to get from a to b using minium fuel out one done 62mpg before on a long journey. They are a great car my dad in perticular loves them there was a few months he was doing 8k km per month in our ones and thought they were very comfortable. I suppose it really just depends whether the op wants spec or year? If they want a cheap 12 octavia you've hit the nail on the head I just wouldn't personally drive on I've been in that spec at dealers there's a reason why there's no interior pictures of that car in the ad yes their that plain inside just black plastic that's it.

tbh i agree with you entirely. i would much prefer an older car with bells and whistles than a newer reg with feck all in it

mickdw

Duster v Octavia - A choice for people who have given up on life in general

Leonard Hofstadter

colm_mcm wrote: »

Mph only clocks on that are a pain I'd say

The display in the centre can be set to display kph for countries which are less backward than the UK on such matters, like Ireland.

whiterebel

colm_mcm wrote: »

He's right though, the day you buy isn't really the day you sell.

Also with the Octavia, there's a new model out so you can either buy one of those, buy a demo model (which won't be discounted that much) or buy the old model.

Thats the point. I was in a BMW garage end of '08, asking about a '08 Passat on the forecourt, wondering why anyone would trade it in. I never found out the reason, but the owner took a hit of 14K in 10 months. 32K new, he was given 18K on a trade-in.

NobodyImportant

R.O.R wrote: »

With limited supply, and a very low starting price, my opinion is that it will probably have some of the lowest depreciation in the market place.

I may be proved wrong in time, but the less money a car has to lose, the less it loses is the general rule of thumb. That's why Renault had some of the lowest TCO's against competitors for the past few years.

Yes, I'm afraid time will prove you wrong. Bargain basement car from an already cheap line, is never going to hold its value. Just because supply is initially limited, wont mean its going to hold its value like classic car or something. A cheap car wont depreciate because it has less to fall? As a percentage, its going to fair much worse than a Toyota/VW/Skoda. It will be cheaper in the long run to spend more on the better car (buying an 11/12 reg) as it will drop in value slower.

ando

Does anyone else think comparing the Duster to an Octavia is silly? You might as well be comparing the Duster to an Audi A4 of same age? Different class. After driving the Duster, it handles and feels like my old Kangoo van which would have fallen apart if a stiff breeze hit it, which is what the Duster is basically except on bigger wheels and body

wesf

Is the name not enought to put you off?!
Dacia Duster... shudder!