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Israel & Al Qaeda's alliance demonstrates War On Terror = Fraud

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,896 ✭✭✭Sacksian


    The CT is as the title suggests.

    There is some good background info on the "Jihadi-Israeli alliance" of evil here
    http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2013/05/05/the-israeli-jihadist-alliance/

    Maybe you are unaware but Justin Raimondo is a staunch supporter of Pat Buchanan, who has a bit of a chequered past in relation to Israel and apparent admiration of Hitler.

    I would certainly not take Raimondo's view as an objective voice on Israeli foreign policy.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Sacksian wrote: »
    Maybe you are unaware but Justin Raimondo is a staunch supporter of Pat Buchanan, who has a bit of a chequered past in relation to Israel and apparent admiration of Hitler.

    I would certainly not take Raimondo's view as an objective voice on Israeli foreign policy.

    I did not know that but obviously Pat Buchanan as noting to do with this. It's all out in the open - Israel, or at least the far-right lunatics running Israel are on the same side as the far-right lunatic jihadis in Syria. Where exactly the Obamination fits into this and whether the tail is wagging the dog is unclear. What is clear and out in the open is the Likud-Al Qaeda alliance.

    The more things change the more things stay the same. Proxies doing the West's/Zionism's dirty work . For example, Rios Montt - a far-right lunatic Christian dictator was doing the US's/Israel's killing with Israeli guns and US helicopters in Guatemala was only last week facing genocide charges. Al Qaeda Nusra are just the modern day version of the genocidal mercenaries tasked by the West to put some distance between themselves and their brutality.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 698 ✭✭✭belcampprisoner


    the Israel needs stable government in syria


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    the Israel needs stable government in syria

    Israel also desires fractured, destroyed Arab neighbours killing each other. and balaknising their states.

    "every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us".

    Also, unfortunately Israel is run by a messianic sociopath who is frothing at the mouth to see Iran destroyed. Instigating a situation where a key ally is destroyed takes this plan a step closer.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 291 ✭✭Sixtus


    I did not know that but obviously Pat Buchanan as noting to do with this. .

    Lets look at how much Pat Buchanan has to do with antiwar.com

    https://www.google.ie/search?q=antiwar.com+pat+bucannan&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#client=firefox-a&hs=9zj&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=antiwar.com+pat+buchanan&sa=X&ei=wQqJUeu0Nauu7AbnrIGIBg&ved=0CC0Q7xYoAA&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45960087,d.ZGU&fp=1c26448767cbada2&biw=1375&bih=677

    Looks like he writes alot for them.

    Buchanan is a vile right wing racist, it's not surprising his fingerprints are all over this conspiracy theory.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    Sixtus wrote: »

    Ey? I'm prepared to look beyond your thinly veiled insults just the once because I am intrigued to find out what an aged, washed-up Republican who I am at best vaguely familiar with has to do with the events taking place in Syria at this time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,914 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Ey? I'm prepared to look beyond your thinly veiled insults just the once because I am intrigued to find out what an aged, washed-up Republican who I am at best vaguely familiar with has to do with the events taking place in Syria at this time.

    Report any posts you feel are insults in future. Do not bring it up on thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    Israel also desires fractured, destroyed Arab neighbours killing each other. and balaknising their states.

    "every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us".

    Also, unfortunately Israel is run by a messianic sociopath who is frothing at the mouth to see Iran destroyed. Instigating a situation where a key ally is destroyed takes this plan a step closer.

    Israel runs the Middle East like no regime like stays in power unless Israel wants it there. In fact Israel cannot exist without the 'bad evil Arab' and sees Assad as too moderate like and Saddam the same. The al Qaeda evils would be better and undermine Arab democracy. So, does Israel supply weapons to these to attack Israel? Well, kind of only Israel sell them arms, let them do some attrocity and then come back and kill them and have excuse for no Arab democracy.

    Israel has already destroyed Iran by leaving an incompetent and tyrant regime in it to self destroy it for 34 years. If Pahlavi's son was there, Iran would be a superpower. The current regime is reppressive, backward, divided, weak, incompetent, corrupt thus keeping Iran exactly as Israel intends: POOR POOR !!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,378 ✭✭✭BuilderPlumber


    Israel also desires fractured, destroyed Arab neighbours killing each other. and balaknising their states.

    "every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us".

    Yes, that's exactly how Israel has viewed the Arab and greater Middle East. Here are some of the things Israel does approve of (some surprises!!):

    Talibanisation of Islam: propaganda to prove Arabs, their religion and customs are backward.
    Islamic Terrorism: justification for why they go to war against Palestinians, Lebanon and so on and intervene in Syria and others.
    War between Arab states: Keeps them weak and diverts attention away from threats of war against Israel.
    Islamic Republic of Iran: Enemy of Saddam Hussein, a real enemy of Israel. Keeps Iran (under another government, it would be a superpower) poor. Iran is not an Arab country.
    The Iran Iraq war and an Iranian victory: Arab enemy eliminated, potential superpower wins but it too poor and has incompetent backwards government to be a threat to Israel.

    Things it does/did not approve of:

    Arab as distinct from Taliban Islam nationalism: unites all of North Africa and all Middle East nations bar Iran, India, Turkey, the former USSR ones, Pakistan and Afghanistan (as well as of course Israel itself) into a huge alliance harmful to Israel.
    Saddam: a sociallly liberal, modernising Arab nationalist who had potential to turn an Arab country into a regional superpower. Exactly what Israel does not want.
    Pre-1979 Iran: Israel secretly likes Iran as a bulwark against Arabs. BUT NOT a rich and powerful Iran. It prefers to see it poor. Thus Pahlavi, who was making it modern and rich, had to go.
    Communism in Middle East: Israel is capitalist to the last drop.
    Revealing secrets: such as its secret alliances with Iran, its nukes, its fomentation of trouble in Syria and elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,624 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    It seems fairly obvious to me that Israel will ally with pretty much anyone to further its own ends in the ME. Again only my opinion, but it looks very much like their "ends" in this case are instability in Syria, and a weakened Iran.

    Interesting how when evidence started to show up of chemical warfare use by the Syrian regime, the US was all over it, talk of "red lines" and such, really ramping up the preparation to overtly support the rebels. Now that evidence of chemical weapon use by the rebel side is revealed and deafening chorus of....not much actually.


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