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dead calf dumped in drain.

  • 06-05-2013 12:45pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭


    Hi just need some advice. I found a dead calf dumped in a wooded area 1/2 a mile from me. The tags were removed. What is the best advice , call the guards or council . I just want it removed but would like the so and so who did this found.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭TheBody


    Hi just need some advice. I found a dead calf dumped in a wooded area 1/2 a mile from me. The tags were removed. What is the best advice , call the guards or council . I just want it removed but would like the so and so who did this found.

    What an outragous thing to do. Yea, I'd call the council and take it from there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    The tags were removed. .

    Did you stick your hand down and check for holes in its ears?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    Called guards. Not interested. He recommended calling the dog warden. I'll call the council in the morn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    He recommended calling the dog warden. I'll call the council in the morn.

    WTF?????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    What's the difference between a dog and a calf?

    One goes WOOF WOOF!! The other says nothing because it's dead


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭KatyMac


    When I found a couple of sheep dumped I contacted the council litter warden and the EPA (via email). The Council man contacted me for exact location a couple of days later and took away the remains, it must have been a fairly horrible job as they were well ripe by then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    are you sure the calf was dumped or could he have died in the location without anyone knowing, then again you said it had holes in it ears so must have being dumped. hard to find pin point it on who done it. You could let nature do it work:rolleyes:, why not get a shovel and dig a bit of a hole and be done with it. God only knows when council and other uncivil servants would turn up to deal with it. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    If it was me, I'd just dig a hole and bury it, but depends on location too, I suppose. The quicker it is buried, the better, for obvious reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    A Knacker would be able to sort you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    A Knacker would be able to sort you

    Anyone know their collection charges. Thought crossed my mind alright.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    Anyone know their collection charges. Thought crossed my mind alright.

    depends on how local they are or if they are close etc, €20 for a calf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    you could ring your local paper, the council etc wont be to slow to sort it out then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭kfk


    Why bother paying a knackery to take the calf? If it is not on your land then it is not your problem. Call the council in the morning if you want but by the time they call out, nature will have it sorted, especially in this warm weather.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    if the calf was tagged and probably registered will it not go missing on the database at some stage, cant understand dumping of dead animals, surely if you tell the knackery you cant pay they will sort something out... we had a good few ewes and lambs dumped in a drain on our farm, it wasnt just a once off , 2 or 3 trips where made, council took them away and paper took pictures:D was years ago


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 698 ✭✭✭belcampprisoner


    how fresh is the meat,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    whelan1 wrote: »
    if the calf was tagged and probably registered will it not go missing on the database at some stage, cant understand dumping of dead animals.....
    That's where switching of tags comes in. Even more of a problem where the next calf is stolen.
    The authorities should take a hair sample, even if only to keep on record. It would put an end to this kind of behaviour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Bizzum


    pakalasa wrote: »
    The authorities should take a hair sample, even if only to keep on record. It would put an end to this kind of behaviour.

    There should be nowhere to hide from DNA sampling nowadays with decent banks of genetic history to compare a sample against.

    Ring the Environmental section of your local Co Co. Tell em Bob sent ya :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Bizzum wrote: »
    There should be nowhere to hide from DNA sampling nowadays with decent banks of genetic history to compare a sample against.
    ^
    |
    |
    This.

    Aside for the negative pollution and PR aspects of this, someone is circumventing the proper procedures for dealing with fallen livestock.



    Also:
    [MOD]

    I've done a bit of pruning in some posts above.
    Let's keep the use of the term 'Knacker' relevant to the thread subject, huh?

    [/MOD]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭benjydagg


    I had the same problem calf dumped on my land. Council vet came out and e litter warden. DNA sample taken. I had to pay to have the calf disposed of in knackery as it was on my land. Reported to guards also. No response after 5 weeks, but I think the culprit is known to the council.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    If calf was tagged would he be bvd tested, and therefore a dna sample would exist, but of course you would csi miami to trace it !!:P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 839 ✭✭✭Dampintheattic


    benjydagg wrote: »
    I had the same problem calf dumped on my land. Council vet came out and e litter warden. DNA sample taken. I had to pay to have the calf disposed of in knackery as it was on my land. Reported to guards also. No response after 5 weeks, but I think the culprit is known to the council.


    How would DNA sampling help identify the owner?
    Would have to be a pedigree calf surely, where the DNA of both parents, would be already on a database.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    Called the council and I have to say they were very helpful. They are coming to collect it this week. I am also using the previous comments on dna testing in the hope that it will deter other people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    How would DNA sampling help identify the owner?
    Would have to be a pedigree calf surely, where the DNA of both parents, would be already on a database.

    Im just guessing here but do the bvd samples not go on a database , so if the dumped animal was tested his dna would be on the database and the farmer details also,...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    dharn wrote: »
    Im just guessing here but do the bvd samples not go on a database , so if the dumped animal was tested his dna would be on the database and the farmer details also,...
    I don't think they DNA test the BVD samples. Why would they?
    But if they DNA tested every illegally dumped animal, there would be the possibility to link the animal to any suspect farmer, even a few years down the road. It might be enough to put people off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    Called the council, They are coming to collect it this week.

    I should think they have a legal obligation to be along straight away to collect a dead animal. Ring the circus again in the morning, they wouldnt be long sending you to the courts for such a lazy attitude, if the shoe was on the other foot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭homewardbound11


    Bloody calf has gone missing this morning. The Sherlock holmes in me thinks it is a boards user.
    Hopefully it is disposed of Correctly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Moah ha ha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    Are you sure it was dead? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    pakalasa wrote: »
    Are you sure it was dead? :rolleyes:

    Thats amazing, , must be all the talk about dna testing that put the frighteners on the owner !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    Bloody calf has gone missing this morning. The Sherlock holmes in me thinks it is a boards user.
    Hopefully it is disposed of Correctly.

    Thats probably nature, surprising how quick small animals are consumed in the animal food chain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭Man of Aran


    pakalasa wrote: »
    Are you sure it was dead? :rolleyes:

    Lazarus the calf? Would be a good name for him if he's still walking!


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