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Looking for a job in Meath/Louth/Cavan

  • 04-05-2013 9:31am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭


    Hi all
    I am looking for a job teaching English/History/Religion. I have been looking for a couple of years now and am fed up at this point. I am already permament in Tipperary and have 13 years experience. Seeing as voluntary redeployment now looks less likely than ever before, I am going to have to resign my post. Any job I get needs to be full hours as I have a hefty mortgage. If you know of any schools that are hiring I would appreciate the heads up.
    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭RealJohn


    I'm sorry in advance if you've already covered this yourself (which you probably have) but your dilemma raises a few questions for me. You're working on full hours in Tipp and you want to move to a school in Meath, Louth or Cavan. Is your mortgaged property in one of those counties? If so, I would say you don't necessarily need full hours as I would have thought that you either have travel costs or rental costs which you'll save by moving. Also, if this is the case, surely moving to Westmeath, Dublin, Monaghan etc. would improve the situation so you're not really limited to the three counties you mentioned.

    If it's in Tipp, surely you should be planning on selling or renting the property rather than moving, leaving it vacant and keeping up the mortgage? I realise that if you bought during the boom that you won't clear the mortgage by selling it now (in all probability) and that you'll probably have difficulty renting it but it just doesn't make sense to move away and keep paying a mortgage.

    Like I said, I know you've probably thought about all that before but I'm just trying to get my head around your problem because it raises a lot of questions for me. If you've left it vague intentionally because you're worried about being recognised or something, feel free to ignore me but I can't understand why your options are so limited based on the information you've given us (not that it's any of my business).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,359 ✭✭✭whiteandlight


    Without being negative I'm not sure you will be successful even with your experience. It is becoming rarer and rarer to see full time RPT contracts and I can't remember the last time I saw a permanent job advertised. The reality if the teaching profession currently is you would likely have to take a leap of faith on smaller hours and hope for more the following year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 112 ✭✭Susie120704


    I live in Tipperary and bought a house there in 2006 ie right at the peak. I had moved back to my childhood home in 2005 and at the time I envisioned not leaving again. It cost me 235,000 to buy and renovate my house which is currently worth about 80k. Now I am not whining about this if it seems like I am.
    My problem is that I met a man who is a farmer outside Kells, the night I got the keys to my home. We married last year and now I need to move up.
    I love my job in Tipp but it is no longer suitable. I asked the principal three years ago that if any hope of redeployment came up I wanted out. So far to no avail. I remind him annually. Voluntary redeployment was the carrot that got me to agree to CP1 and to date it has not come in. It was to be trialed next year in Sligo but who knows if that will go ahead in the wake of CP2?
    I am posting here in the hope of someone having a lead or two on jobs. I have applied in the past to no avail. In total I think I have had two interviews in two years.
    With the rental market being what it is in Tipp, I will have to supplement the mortgage to the tune of 3-400 Euro monthly so I need full hours or quite close to it.
    I know I sound in dreamland with all my demands but I would appreciate if anyone who reads these posts can give me a heads up if anything comes up in their schools.
    I am not worried who can identify me either as anything posted here has been thoroughly explained to my principal with whom I would consider there to be quite a good working relationship. He is quite a reasonable man to be fair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭RealJohn


    Thank you for taking the time to clarify that for me. Unfortunately I can't help you but I wish you good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Melanoma


    I talked to a guy that said volentary redeployment is off until the other kind is complete due to complications like appeals taking up to a year to complete.

    It might be that they will do a reduced hour contract from 22 to 20 hours and increase the number of weeks teaching per year. This would mean more lay offs as fewer teachers needed to cover a reduced school hours say from 9-3.45 could become 9-3.

    So more involuntary redeployment is possible.

    If this happens then I would say your in for a wait.

    otherwise I would hold tight and in about 3 years the volentary redeployment will come back especially if the department are not too stretched and their are enough experienced heads there to do it.

    I would really strongly advise you to go and visit new schools being built if possible. They will need some experienced people and will grow to bring full hours on. But beware in cork a nearby big school is having 5 nearly full time teachers with 3 years in being got rid of in September due to involuntary redeployment from cork city vec into cork county vec (merged).

    Even with your experience it might be possible to end up on a 10 hour contract and some principals only want to hire younger more plyable teachers.

    Then again you have waited long enough so you might have to be brave.

    Good luck!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    Melanoma wrote: »
    It might be that they will do a reduced hour contract from 22 to 20 hours and increase the number of weeks teaching per year. This would mean more lay offs as fewer teachers needed to cover a reduced school hours say from 9-3.45 could become 9-3.

    Choking on my Chamomile...This would mean a lot of parents having to leave work earlier to collect the kids, despite the current hatred of teachers at the mo. this would seriously annoy a lot of joe public too..Increasing school weeks also increases school day to day running costs etc..

    As regards fewer teachers needed for cover.. the proposed 'streamlining' of S&S will take care of that no problem.

    Anyhow OP, only advice I can give is to hang out for when the 'Baby Boom' hits secondary schools in about 10 years or so... Sorry! (Or else get the farmer hubby to move!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭trihead


    hi,

    Have you thought about applying for job share maybe over 3 days? (if available) You could split living between the two places and maybe rent a room in your house in tipperary to help with costs. Not ideal but could be better than the current set up if it was possible?

    trihead


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 310 ✭✭Melanoma


    trihead wrote: »
    hi,

    Have you thought about applying for job share maybe over 3 days? (if available) You could split living between the two places and maybe rent a room in your house in tipperary to help with costs. Not ideal but could be better than the current set up if it was possible?

    trihead

    Be careful because job shares are being phased out bit by bit. For example some schools still insist on you being available 5 days a week even on half hours. Also the government know that full time people pay more % tax than two half incomes. For this reason and to avoid interview boards and job adverts they want to get rid of them in the long run.


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