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What the hell is going on here?

  • 04-05-2013 12:26am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭


    Garda car breaks down on way to murder scene.
    http://www.herald.ie/news/garda-car-breaks-down-on-way-to-murder-scene-29240412.html

    This isn't one of those 'I pay enough in taxes to expect the best' rants, but seriously, how has the fleet been allowed to fall to such a level of standard that the cars can't be relied upon to bring members to an emergency?

    Serving members have told me that they were driving bangers but, I didn't think it was this bad.

    About 20 years ago a friend told me the (Dublin) cars were checked every few weeks because of the abuse ie. the constant driving, they took.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    A 2004 vehicle should have been replaced long ago. 6 years is the OPW's guidelines for replacement.
    Presuming it was a mondeo, when clutches go on some versions the repair can cost up to €1600 for parts alone. At this stage it becomes hard to justify repair, and the car will be grounded. Given that replacements are no longer a done deal, it is possible that the users decided to plough on with a car needing a new clutch rather than requesting repair only for the request to be denied and the car removed from service with no replacement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭WilcoOut


    what an out and out disgrace

    minister insists on the closure of stations because cars can patrol longer distances

    now those cars cant even get to scenes of crimes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    I don't see what all the shock is about. Maybe people will start to listen now, probably not.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Dawn Rider wrote: »

    This isn't one of those 'I pay enough in taxes to expect the best' rants, but seriously, how has the fleet been allowed to fall to such a level of standard that the cars can't be relied upon to bring members to an emergency?

    Ask Alan Shatter or Commissioner Martin Callinan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    "This is typical of what is going on – there are too many absolute bangers in operation."

    The people in power will only listen up when someone is killed by or in one of these patrol cars. Don't be fooled these cars are a serious liability on the road.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    The absolute hack of someone of the unmarked cars out there is disgracefull.

    You see the way the UK police force and other European countries are kitted out and it's just embarrassing for the Gardai.

    Give them the tools to do the job at least.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    sparrowcar wrote: »
    The absolute hack of someone of the unmarked cars out there is disgracefull.

    You see the way the UK police force and other European countries are kitted out and it's just embarrassing for the Gardai.

    Give them the tools to do the job at least.

    The difference between here and uk is in the uk there is separate police forces so separate income/budgets etc.Here it is a national force so 1 budget running the whole country


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    lighterman wrote: »
    The difference between here and uk is in the uk there is separate police forces so separate income/budgets etc.Here it is a national force so 1 budget running the whole country

    No. Just people who would rather get more for their money than quality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,459 ✭✭✭Heathen


    No fear of any ministers cars breaking down anyway :-/

    Shocking the way funding is squandered on crap in some sections of budgets and then the purse strings are tightened when it comes to important emergency services!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    It's ford focus that's has being given problems before which happens when family cars used for police work!! The cars back on the road again after being repaired


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    Why aren't they using police spec'd cars anyway?

    Always looks like they're just regular cars with a logo applied.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭SB2013


    Solair wrote: »
    Why aren't they using police spec'd cars anyway?

    Always looks like they're just regular cars with a logo applied.

    They are. The spec'd ones looked too flashy. It would look bad you know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    Solair wrote: »
    Always looks like they're just regular cars with a logo applied.

    Don't forget blue lights and go faster stripes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭POGAN


    Solair wrote: »
    Why aren't they using police spec'd cars anyway?

    Always looks like they're just regular cars with a logo applied.

    thats all a garda is standard family car!! only police spec cars are the xc70 the RSU has


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Solair wrote: »
    Why aren't they using police spec'd cars anyway?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    foreign wrote: »
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    Although that's thrown out the window if the rumors are to be believed...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Although that's thrown out the window if the rumors are to be believed...

    What rumors are they?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Gosub


    If speeding fines were diverted to the Garda vehicle budget, I'm sure they'd all be driving top spec BMW amd Merc's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    Gosub wrote: »
    If speeding fines were diverted to the Garda vehicle budget, I'm sure they'd all be driving top spec BMW amd Merc's.

    Aww not like getting caught breaking road traffic laws?

    To be honest I don't think money was ever the issue. Even in the boom family spec cars were used.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Gosub


    bravestar wrote: »
    Aww not like getting caught breaking road traffic laws?

    To be honest I don't think money was ever the issue. Even in the boom family spec cars were used.

    Was caught once 40 years ago. I was doing 31MPH in a 30 zone on my Yamaha Twin. I went to court and was fined 3 punts. Not sure that would buy many Garda cars.

    Don't assume stuff.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    Gosub wrote: »
    Was caught once 40 years ago. I was doing 31MPH in a 30 zone on my Yamaha Twin. I went to court and was fined 3 punts. Not sure that would buy many Garda cars.

    Don't assume stuff.

    You were convicted and fined for being 1 MPH over the limit? Uh huh...anyway ill assume what I want, especially when I'm right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    http://www.herald.ie/news/garda-car-breaks-down-on-way-to-murder-scene-29240412.html
    At this week's Garda Representative Association conference in Co Mayo, the association's vice-president, Dermot O'Brien, said the size of the garda fleet had fallen from 2,814 vehicles in December 2009 to 2,444 in March 2013, and there had been a 30pc decrease in the number of marked patrol cars over the past three years.
    Almost makes the breakdown downsizing seem like a "drive it like you stole it" policy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 874 ✭✭✭Gosub


    bravestar wrote: »
    You were convicted and fined for being 1 MPH over the limit? Uh huh...anyway ill assume what I want, especially when I think I'm right.
    FYP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    bravestar wrote: »
    You were convicted and fined for being 1 MPH over the limit? Uh huh...anyway ill assume what I want, especially when I'm right.

    This post is a clown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    lighterman wrote: »
    This post is a clown

    Yes, the post is a clown, that makes sense. Ya really got me there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭lighterman


    bravestar wrote: »
    Yes, the post is a clown, that makes sense. Ya really got me there.

    Let me spell it out for you. I cant attack the poster so i did it in a roundabout ways and attacked the post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    lighterman wrote: »
    Let me spell it out for you. I cant attack the poster so i did it in a roundabout ways and attacked the post.

    Really? Wow, thanks for explaining it to me, I really appreciate it :)


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