Aviation News

roundymac

There are a number of aviation news stories in todays Irish Examiner which I cannot find links for so I am putting up the general headlines for people to search for themselves.

Ryanair have had their appeal for a €770,700 vat refund in relation to costs incurred in their bid to take over Aer Lingus rejected in the high court.

Aer Lingus are mulling over starting up a San Fransisco route. It would run 4 times weekly. They are looking for commitments (?) from the business community should they inncur loss's on the route.

IAA report a €14m profit for last year.

Air France/KLM losses for the first quarter have risen sharply compared to previous years.

Bsal

roundymac wrote: »

There are a number of aviation news stories in todays Irish Examiner which I cannot find links for so I am putting up the general headlines for people to search for themselves.

Ryanair have had their appeal for a €770,700 vat refund in relation to costs incurred in their bid to take over Aer Lingus rejected in the high court.

Aer Lingus are mulling over starting up a San Fransisco route. It would run 4 times weekly. They are looking for commitments (?) from the business community should they inncur loss's on the route.

IAA report a €14m profit for last year.

Air France/KLM losses for the first quarter have risen sharply compared to previous years.

And they won't shell out a few quid for the students on the student controller programme :mad:

roundymac

I should have said surplus as opposed to profit since they don't do profits being a "state body".

Razor44

at i guess i would say that 14 million will be put towards our IMF/ECB loans.

Tenger

Razor44 wrote: »

at i guess i would say that 14 million will be put towards our IMF/ECB loans.

The article says that they paid the state a 5 million dividend.

Razor44

Tenger wrote: »

The article says that they paid the state a 5 million dividend.

ah my bad!

Peregrine

roundymac wrote: »

There are a number of aviation news stories in todays Irish Examiner which I cannot find links for so I am putting up the general headlines for people to search for themselves.

Ryanair have had their appeal for a €770,700 vat refund in relation to costs incurred in their bid to take over Aer Lingus rejected in the high court.

Aer Lingus are mulling over starting up a San Fransisco route. It would run 4 times weekly. They are looking for commitments (?) from the business community should they inncur loss's on the route.

IAA report a €14m profit for last year.

Air France/KLM losses for the first quarter have risen sharply compared to previous years.

This reminds me, I wonder how the Cityjet sale is going.

I remember reading a few weeks ago that AF KLM has narrowed it down to 2 bidders and one of them is ACL, the other a German company.

The airline was still making a small loss in 2012 but I believe it started / is starting a couple of new routes this year

andy_g

Bsal wrote: »

And they won't shell out a few quid for the students on the student controller programme :mad:

Sorry to say thats like asking them to pay for the continuation of the PTC Students in Florida.

Food for thought.

MoeJay

Don't quite follow the logic there, could you elaborate?

andy_g

MoeJay wrote: »

Don't quite follow the logic there, could you elaborate?

Yes as in a bailout for them like everything else in ireland

MoeJay

Maybe I misunderstood the point Bsal was trying to make; I took it as despite being a significantly operationally profitable outfit, the IAA have decided to not to provide any allowance of any sort (e.g. to cover food, rent, travel etc) while the ATC students train for two years at the IAA's facilities, complete on the job training with apparently no pay etc etc.

This despite the fact the IAA own and regulate all the training facilities (with no competitor in the state at which to gain the qualification), employ and regulate all the staff, all the instructors, are the sponsoring employer and will be the employer after successful completion of the course (acknowledging all the caveats.)

So I fail to see the parallel with PTC.

Now maybe I'm a bit old fashioned but I believe that given the nature of the scheme and the training involved, some kind of allowance to keep a roof over your head and food in your belly for the duration is really not a lot to ask...?

Peregrine

Might as well just use this thread for any news.

Aer Lingus passenger numbers in May were up 5.3% compared to the same month last year.

Aer Lingus carried more than 1 million passengers May as the airline saw traffic rise 5.3 per cent higher than in the same month last year.
The number of short haul passengers, including those carried by its regional operations, flown by Aer Lingus increased to 914,000 (up 3.7 per cent year on year) and the airline’s long haul numbers increased by more than one fifth to 107,000.
Regional traffic increased by 2.3 per cent year on year to 90,000.
Flown passenger load factor rose by 3.6 points year on year to 79.8 per cent with short haul rising by 3.4 per cent to 77.2 per cent. Capacity in short haul fell by 1.8 per cent.
Long haul load factor increased to 84.4 per cent (up 2.9 points) as capacity rose by 16.8 per cent on the previous year.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/sectors/transport-and-tourism/aer-lingus-passenger-numbers-up-5-3-in-may-1.1420463


More news of AF/KLM's Cityjet sale. I think the last thing we heard was that the Dublin based ASL Aviation Group and a German company called Intro Aviation were shortlisted as the two possible buyers.

Now the company reached a preliminary agreement with Intro Aviation as the buyer.

Air France-KLM (AF) Group has reached a preliminary agreement to sell its CityJet regional airline to German turnaround specialist Intro Aviation GmbH, three people familiar with the process said.

A decision on the sale still depends on final due diligence, and an agreement may be reached within a month, said one of the people, who asked not to be identified because the process is private.

...

Intro was co-founded by retail entrepreneur Hans-Rudolf Woehrl. Intro bought German airline Deutsche BA from British Airways Plc for one euro in 2003. The airline, renamed DBA, was “rehabilitated within a few months” according to Intro’s website. Intro went on to sell DBA to Air Berlin in 2006.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-06-07/air-france-said-to-prefer-intro-aviation-as-cityjet-buyer.html