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Cold sores (herpes) v lyseine

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  • Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭HeadPig


    The literature is conflicting on lysine for coldsore prophylaxis. The lowdown is it won't do you any harm and may slightly decrease recurrence or slightly speed up healing.

    The compeed patches are just to stop it from spreading by touch.


  • Site Banned Posts: 256 ✭✭Dr Silly Bollox MD


    An omega 3-6-9 a day keeps the cold sore away.

    So sez me granny.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    A very interesting thread but can't we just be mindful not to stray into offering medical advice?
    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Vorsprung


    Plenty of potential for observer bias in that study from 1983!

    There's not a lot of evidence for topical aciclovir generally as far as I understand.

    Some evidence for oral famciclovir in reducing duration of symptoms/pain - but it's expensive stuff - not sure if it would hold up if it came up to a cost benefit analysis. eg this study where lesions were induced by UV light Linky


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭echo beach


    Vorsprung wrote: »

    There's not a lot of evidence for topical aciclovir generally as far as I understand.

    Isn't that the big problem with evidence based medicine? There are so many gaps in the evidence, even for treatments that have been used by millions of patients over many decades.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Vorsprung


    echo beach wrote: »
    Isn't that the big problem with evidence based medicine? There are so many gaps in the evidence, even for treatments that have been used by millions of patients over many decades.

    Do you mean that in the sense that lots of remedies/medicines are used without evidence?


  • Registered Users Posts: 632 ✭✭✭sidcon


    I had been taking Ly-sine for over 5 years as I suffer really badly with cold sores. I was taking a dose of 1000mg per day which was one large tablet. Approx 3 years ago I start suffering with IBS getting worse and worse some days not being able to move for fear of an accident. I start seeing a consultant 6 months ago about it and they could find nothing wrong with me, then after doing a two week food log he studied Lysene, he found out that side effects to taking it is diarrhoea and kidney failure. Since I stopped taking the tablets my symptoms have almost come to a stop, however I'm now being treated for kidney damage.
    While this is not 100% linked to Lysene the odds are firmly against it be anything else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,252 ✭✭✭echo beach


    Vorsprung wrote: »
    Do you mean that in the sense that lots of remedies/medicines are used without evidence?
    I wouldn't say they are used without ANY evidence. There had to be some evidence to have them licensed in the first place and there are thousands of patient years of experience with them but there aren't the robust, double-blind, randomised controlled trials needed to provide a firm evidence base.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Splendour


    I suffered from cold sores for years until someone told me about lysine as a preventative. I took it for about 2 years (can't remember the dosage) and I very very rarely get a cold sore now. I heard subsequently that lysine should not be taken on a long term basis-so beware!


  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭pc11


    Splendour wrote: »
    I suffered from cold sores for years until someone told me about lysine as a preventative. I took it for about 2 years (can't remember the dosage) and I very very rarely get a cold sore now. I heard subsequently that lysine should not be taken on a long term basis-so beware!

    Lysine is just an amino acid, and present in many foods, so why would it be bad to take it long-term?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭Splendour


    pc11 wrote: »
    Lysine is just an amino acid, and present in many foods, so why would it be bad to take it long-term?

    I've no idea-somebody told me that it's not good to take it long term but I didn't ask why and seeing how we are not supposed to give advice here I thought I'd throw in the 'beware' to cover myself!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    pc11 wrote: »
    Lysine is just an amino acid, and present in many foods, so why would it be bad to take it long-term?

    The dose makes the poison - etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 974 ✭✭✭pc11


    The dose makes the poison - etc

    The doses of lysine used as supplements for herpes prevention are not high in comparison to what occurs naturally in foods.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭death1234567


    SNIP


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Vorsprung


    MOD NOTE

    Please refrain from suggesting particular treatments (counts as medical advice) and buying medications over the net, thanks.


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