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Operacion Puerto - Hoping for the whole truth comes to an end

  • 01-05-2013 10:59AM
    #1
    RamirezAuron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 ✭


    Yesterday, Dr. Fuentes was sentenced by the Spanish court to one year in prison, which declared he had breached public health laws while carry out blood transfusions to improve performance of top cyclists.
    He was also banned from practising as a sports doctor for four years.
    The shock for the anti-doping authorities came afterwards, when the judge ruled, that the blood bags could not be turned over to them for DNA-tests and so the names finally will never be revealed!
    The judge also decided, that the data from the Fuentes computer will be destroyed!
    Spanish law did not ban doping at the time of the raid on Fuentes' laboratory, meaning he could only be tried on public health charges. He is unlikely to go to prison, as sentences under two years are normally suspended in Spain.

    In my opinion this decision is a disaster for the fairplay in sports.


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  • #2
    check_six
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    Why would they destroy the evidence though? Why not keep it in storage or something?


  • #3
    Flandria
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭Flandria


    check_six wrote: »
    Why would they destroy the evidence though? Why not keep it in storage or something?

    La Liga;)


  • #4
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,689 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Flandria wrote: »
    La Liga;)

    this (an possibly tennis related)

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  • #5
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,270 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    I suspect it has more to do with legalities. Doping wasn't a crime in Spain at the time and there could be issues with releasing evidence collected for judicial purposes to non-state agencies.


  • #6
    RamirezAuron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 ✭RamirezAuron


    Maybe. But a few years ago, the italian agencies were able to get one bag after the decision of a spanish judge and so it came, that Valverde was banned...


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  • #7
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,260 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Sounds like something big is been hidden. I dont know but is stuff like this rampant in football but they just dont test for it?


  • #8
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,270 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    RamirezAuron wrote: »
    Maybe. But a few years ago, the italian agencies were able to get one bag after the decision of a spanish judge and so it came, that Valverde was banned...

    It was an Italian state agency that requested the evidence and doping was a crime in Italy.


  • #9
    Junior
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,262 ✭✭✭Junior


    None of the relevant sports bodies e.g. FIFA, UEFA have made requests for any information from the case.


  • #10
    RobFowl
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    Junior wrote: »
    None of the relevant sports bodies e.g. FIFA, UEFA have made requests for any information from the case.

    Turkeys don't vote for Christmas


  • #11
    Seaneh
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,300 ✭✭✭✭Seaneh


    godtabh wrote: »
    Sounds like something big is been hidden. I dont know but is stuff like this rampant in football but they just dont test for it?

    According to doctors involved in doping and chemists like Angel Heredia, doping is rampant is just about every major professional sport, it's just that the only ones who actually have any decent level of testing are Track & Field and Cycling, and because of that almost all the big cases of people being caught happen in those fields.


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  • #12
    godtabh
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    Junior wrote: »
    None of the relevant sports bodies e.g. FIFA, UEFA have made requests for any information from the case.

    Why would they? It wouldnt be in their interests to expose Spain and Spanish teams. Now why does that sound familiar?


  • #13
    capnsantini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭capnsantini


    Am I the only one who wold like to see Kimmage and Walsh keep their momentum going and shine their torches into Fuentes' 'Siberia' while they still can?


  • #14
    laraghrider
    Closed Accounts Posts: 663 ✭✭✭laraghrider


    UEFA and FIFA took long enough to agree on goal line technology and still can't agree on video ref/replay. Why on earth would they want to look at something that would take down some of the biggest names / cash cows in the game? Where have we seen this before? Oh yeah...

    <snip>


  • #15
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,456 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Same doping speculation rules apply to other sports as well as cycling. Even if not naming names, providing info that can readily identify individuals or clubs alleged to be involved in illegal doping is not permitted

    Thanks

    Beasty


  • #16
    capnsantini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭capnsantini


    I'm pretty doubtful that this will deliver the desired result, but it is worth noting that there is a petition to keep the Spanish courts from destroying the blood bags.

    An article on it here: http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/05/news/petition-to-halt-spanish-court-from-destroying-puerto-blood-hits-20k_285562

    The petition is here if anyone would like to sign (no reason not to is there?): https://www.change.org/petitions/do-not-destroy-the-evidence-from-the-doping-trial

    Finally, my Spanish isn't 100%, but from what I can make out from the Spanish article on the Puerto case in general, there is talk of 40 or so blood bags that have already disappeared and were never in the possession of the court, or certainly aren't now in any case. Unfortunately I doubt those ares still sitting around: http://deportes.elpais.com/deportes/2013/03/19/actualidad/1363722651_606904.html


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