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grazing cattle for the summer

  • 30-04-2013 7:54pm
    #1
    eoinmk2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭


    Hi,
    this may seem a stupid question to some of the seasoned farmers on here but im only new to farming so im still learning. slowly but surely. my father used to have beef cattle, he used to keep suckler cows but got out of cattle about 6 years ago and we have just been letting the land/cutting silage and selling it ever since. however, this year we bought 20 small bullocks, about 200-300kg.

    I have a question regarding how much to ask for grazing someone else's cattle for the summer.

    a farmer has approached us asking if we would graze 15 bullocks about 300-400kg for him for the summer, untill september.

    he has offered us 1000 euro to do it. is this too cheap? i have no experience in doing this so dont have any idea of prices


    i know i have probably left some important info out but please dont hesitate to comment. as I said, I'm still learning.

    Cheers, Eoin


Comments

  • #2
    bbam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    Well it's 50cent a day each.
    Say they average 1 kg a day, at a value of ~€1.80.
    He has €1.30 to cover doses, verinary and any other expenses and then make a profit too.

    I'd doubt you could get much more or it wouldn't be worth his while.

    The only question is how it works for TB ? Cattle from two herds grazing the same farm? Not sure that can be done.


  • #3
    eoinmk2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭eoinmk2


    as far as i know they would go into our herd. i could be wrong though.
    when you spell it out like that it seems fair enough.
    Thanks bbam


  • #4
    simx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    bbam wrote: »
    Well it's 50cent a day each.
    Say they average 1 kg a day, at a value of ~€1.80.
    He has €1.30 to cover doses, verinary and any other expenses and then make a profit too.

    I'd doubt you could get much more or it wouldn't be worth his while.

    The only question is how it works for TB ? Cattle from two herds grazing the same farm? Not sure that can be done.

    i think you have to transfer the other mans cattle into your herd to cover that side


  • #5
    Injuryprone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    Would you have to mind them as well and be responsible for them?


  • #6
    eoinmk2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭eoinmk2


    yeah. we would herd them for him


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  • #7
    Farmer Pudsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭Farmer Pudsey


    eoinmk2 wrote: »
    yeah. we would herd them for him

    Some farmers B&B dairy heifers these would be about 350 kgs when they arrive and usually the fee is about 70c/day as a minimum. Bullocks will eat a bit more nad also he has them there for the part of the year when they will gain most weight as they will have plenty of grass


  • #8
    Lastin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 125 ✭✭Lastin


    A 1000 euro on 15 cattle and no outlay (fert maybe) take hand and all


  • #9
    sh1tstirrer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    Lastin wrote: »
    A 1000 euro on 15 cattle and no outlay (fert maybe) take hand and all
    Over 400 a tonne for fert ,time and labour. Not much room for profit there. He would be better letting the land out for 2 months for silage the man renting buys fert 100 euro acre up front and in two months he will have the land back.


  • #10
    KatyMac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭KatyMac


    eoinmk2 wrote: »
    as far as i know they would go into our herd. i could be wrong though.
    when you spell it out like that it seems fair enough.
    Thanks bbam

    You are right, they would have to be transferred into your herd. I only discovered this recently - I nearly got in bother because I fed 5 cows for a man for a month two years ago without realising they had to be transferred.


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