2006 Passat 2.0tdi

ghogie91

Hi All,

I went to a Garage yesterday to get what I though was a slow puncture replaced. Turns out my alignment on the back two tyres is off so therefore the insides were all worn away. Ended up in my having to buy two brand new tyres on the back.

When they were taking off the worst one to put on my spare they found a leaking shock. Now the back two shocks are needing replacing, a general service needs to be done, brake pads need to be replaced.

Am i right in saying that this will cost close to 1000 euro given the 2 tyres and alignment are already costing me 300 quid?

Also i bought this car off a garage last September, should these problems be arising already? within 6/7 months, I have put about 6000 miles on the car since

Foxhole Norman

I'd get another garages opinion first before doing anything and ask them to check those items specifically.

MuppetCheck

Check the shocks yourself, simply move the rubber boot and have a look. It's not unknown for certain tyre chains to invent issues......

ghogie91

Ok and would this be a pricey lot if all needs to be replaced? Cause I cant afford massive amounts of money for this at the moment. Surely all this shouldnt be happening?

bazz26

ghogie91 wrote: »

Ok and would this be a pricey lot if all needs to be replaced? Cause I cant afford massive amounts of money for this at the moment. Surely all this shouldnt be happening?

Everything you described above are normal wear and tear parts so by their very nature have a limited life span depending on the use they get. They may have worn out at different stages but are only been checked now. When was the car checked or serviced prior to this?

However what you need to do is bring the car to another garage for a second opinion. As already mentioned some of these places can tend to coach people into spending money where it might not entirely be necessary.

darragh o meara

I would get someone to give a second opinion on this, as stated above certain tyre chains have a tendency to make a perfectly good car seem like a death trap to drum up more work for themselves.

1000 Euro??? Im not so sure.

This would be my conservative guess based on similar work I carried out on my own Passat. Granted I did all the work myself but parts should be in or around the same price.

2x rear shocks €160 for the pair
Service kit €90 Included Oil,Oil filter,Air filter,Diesel Filter and pollen filter
Rear brake pads €25

Adding in labour, I suppose a decent mechanic would be 3-4 hours doing the whole lot at say €60 an hour €180.

Total in my eyes : €455

The parts I fitted were from a motor factor so not the genuine parts you'd get from a main dealer but decent brands all the same. However with genuine parts it probably would touch the €1000 mark with the tyres you've already bought.

BTW, all of those parts are something Id be expecting to replace on a car of that age. Unfortunately they are consumable parts and no warranty covers consumable parts unless they fail due to faulty workmanship.

ghogie91

darragh o meara wrote: »

I would get someone to give a second opinion on this, as stated above certain tyre chains have a tendency to make a perfectly good car seem like a death trap to drum up more work for themselves.

1000 Euro??? Im not so sure.

This would be my conservative guess based on similar work I carried out on my own Passat. Granted I did all the work myself but parts should be in or around the same price.

2x rear shocks €160 for the pair
Service kit €90 Included Oil,Oil filter,Air filter,Diesel Filter and pollen filter
Rear brake pads €25

Adding in labour, I suppose a decent mechanic would be 3-4 hours doing the whole lot at say €60 an hour €180.

Total in my eyes : €455

The parts I fitted were from a motor factor so not the genuine parts you'd get from a main dealer but decent brands all the same. However with genuine parts it probably would touch the €1000 mark with the tyres you've already bought.

BTW, all of those parts are something Id be expecting to replace on a car of that age. Unfortunately they are consumable parts and no warranty covers consumable parts unless they fail due to faulty workmanship.

Yep I am getting the original mechanic to have it back and gave a look. I only bought this car last September, I presumed that all of these things would have been sorted for a new sale?

Hey do you mind me asking are you a mechanic? If not how did you notice these parts gone and how did you learn how to replace?

I wouldnt mind doing that myself and try save a bit of well needed cash

tossy

What mileage is on the car? 6000 miles is more than enough miles for a set of shocks to go from being ok to being knackered depending on what kind of life the have had.

You can't expect a garage to replace a set of visibly ok shocks prior to a sale.

nct tester

The shocks may only be a little wet/damp, if they are covered in oil they will need replacing but not exactly if they are only damp. I've seen shocks that are wet come in for test and the reading would be very good on them and no need to replace them. They are not too hard to replace anyway as they are separate from the spring. As for the rear pads, there's a special tool needed to replace them.

ghogie91

tossy wrote: »

What mileage is on the car? 6000 miles is more than enough miles for a set of shocks to go from being ok to being knackered depending on what kind of life the have had.

You can't expect a garage to replace a set of visibly ok shocks prior to a sale.

It has 167000 miles, I get what you mean

ghogie91

nct tester wrote: »

The shocks may only be a little wet/damp, if they are covered in oil they will need replacing but not exactly if they are only damp. I've seen shocks that are wet come in for test and the reading would be very good on them and no need to replace them. They are not too hard to replace anyway as they are separate from the spring. As for the rear pads, there's a special tool needed to replace them.

Yeah I got the mechanic on it and he said the tops probably look damp when up on a ramp.

darragh o meara

ghogie91 wrote: »

Yep I am getting the original mechanic to have it back and gave a look. I only bought this car last September, I presumed that all of these things would have been sorted for a new sale?

Hey do you mind me asking are you a mechanic? If not how did you notice these parts gone and how did you learn how to replace?

I wouldnt mind doing that myself and try save a bit of well needed cash

I'm not a mechanic but I'm a mechanical engineer, not the same I know but having built and run rallycars for years I've done just about every job you can think of on a car.

How I knew the parts were gone, that's simple.

Service was due as per the book, and having left a car unserviced in the past and blown a turbo, well you quickly learn that when it has to be done its a lot cheaper to buy a service kit than a turbo

Rear brake pads were due and its something I keep an eye on while servicing.

Shocks were noticibly gone. Car started to handle like a boat, they didn't look wet to be honest but when the handling went to sh1te intuition told me what was up.

The shocks aren't the worst job if you have the gear and the patience to take your time, however for the DIY lad the rear pads are a problem in the newer passat as they use an electro actuator and the calipers need to be wound back with vagcom or other obd software. I picked up vagcom+ lead from donedeal for €40.

My advice is to have a loom around locally, there are self service garages starting to pop up around the place that will hire you a lift and the tools for the job. It might suit you better if you can hire the tools rather than buy them.

ghogie91

darragh o meara wrote: »

I'm not a mechanic but I'm a mechanical engineer, not the same I know but having built and run rallycars for years I've done just about every job you can think of on a car.

How I knew the parts were gone, that's simple.

Service was due as per the book, and having left a car unserviced in the past and blown a turbo, well you quickly learn that when it has to be done its a lot cheaper to buy a service kit than a turbo

Rear brake pads were due and its something I keep an eye on while servicing.

Shocks were noticibly gone. Car started to handle like a boat, they didn't look wet to be honest but when the handling went to sh1te intuition told me what was up.

The shocks aren't the worst job if you have the gear and the patience to take your time, however for the DIY lad the rear pads are a problem in the newer passat as they use an electro actuator and the calipers need to be wound back with vagcom or other obd software. I picked up vagcom+ lead from donedeal for €40.

My advice is to have a loom around locally, there are self service garages starting to pop up around the place that will hire you a lift and the tools for the job. It might suit you better if you can hire the tools rather than buy them.

Ah I see I see. I was thinking of doing this as a new Motor Factors has just opened up here and the price of their stuff is very very afforable! Could save a bit by doing it myself but the first time will be trial and error. Have a friend who does it for a living so might tap him to over see what I do.

Id say the rear pads are a nightmare I have looked around a bit and am struggling to find any instruction on them, its all about the front pads. I would have no problem buying the VAGCOM to sort them out

darragh o meara

ghogie91 wrote: »

Ah I see I see. I was thinking of doing this as a new Motor Factors has just opened up here and the price of their stuff is very very afforable! Could save a bit by doing it myself but the first time will be trial and error. Have a friend who does it for a living so might tap him to over see what I do.

Id say the rear pads are a nightmare I have looked around a bit and am struggling to find any instruction on them, its all about the front pads. I would have no problem buying the VAGCOM to sort them out

You have to plug it into vagcom and use the utility to open the rear calipers. Front pads are handy enough do.

MidlandsM

ghogie91 wrote: »

Yep I am getting the original mechanic to have it back and gave a look. I only bought this car last September, I presumed that all of these things would have been sorted for a new sale?

8 months ago, a lot can happen to a car in 8 months

jetfiremuck

Inner tyre wear indicates possible alignment adjustment needed in the rear or component damage/ bushes worn. Shocks dampen spring movement and do not support the car.

The Pontiac

ghogie91 wrote: »

Hi All,

I went to a Garage yesterday to get what I though was a slow puncture replaced. Turns out my alignment on the back two tyres is off so therefore the insides were all worn away. Ended up in my having to buy two brand new tyres on the back.

When they were taking off the worst one to put on my spare they found a leaking shock. Now the back two shocks are needing replacing, a general service needs to be done, brake pads need to be replaced.

Am i right in saying that this will cost close to 1000 euro given the 2 tyres and alignment are already costing me 300 quid?

Also i bought this car off a garage last September, should these problems be arising already? within 6/7 months, I have put about 6000 miles on the car since

Madness. Buy the parts yourself..

2 KYB rear shocks (OEM with most manufacturers) will cost you €71. Free posting when you use Parcel Motel (use Belfast address).

Service Kit for €17, free posting with Parcel Motel.

Oil €35.

Bosch Brake Pads €37

All with free postage when you select UK, and use Parcel Motel.

Total Parts: €170

You could possibly do oil and filters yourself, as the car has already been thoroughly checked.

That leaves the rear shocks (easier than the front) and brake pads for a good indie garage. My mechanic charges €37 p/h. I doubt it'd take him more than 2 hrs.

Total cost inc. labour €260. Just do the oil and filter yourself. (Last time I bought my own oil and filters to my mechanic charged and he only charged me €30)

MidlandsM

The Pontiac wrote: »

Madness. Buy the parts yourself..

2 KYB rear shocks (OEM with most manufacturers) will cost you €71. Free posting when you use Parcel Motel (use Belfast address).

Service Kit for €17, free posting with Parcel Motel.

Oil €35.

Bosch Brake Pads €37

All with free postage when you select UK, and use Parcel Motel.

Total Parts: €170

You could possibly do oil and filters yourself, as the car has already been thoroughly checked.

That leaves the rear shocks (easier than the front) and brake pads for a good indie garage. My mechanic charges €37 p/h. I doubt it'd take him more than 2 hrs.

Total cost inc. labour €260. Just do the oil and filter yourself. (Last time I bought my own oil and filters to my mechanic charged and he only charged me €30)

all this ordering from the uk.,, why not support home business if pricing is similar.

The Pontiac

MidlandsM wrote: »

all this ordering from the uk.,, why not support home business if pricing is similar.

Because pricing isn't "similar".

Have been pricing various parts over the past few months, and it's less than half price in the UK in a lot of cases.

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