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What circuits would you like to see back on the F1 calendar.

  • 28-04-2013 11:54pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭


    I read here that 69 circuits have held an F1 race. So which circuits would you like to see back on the F1 calendar?

    1: Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez, Mexico City.

    2: Circuito de Jerez, Spain.

    3: Adelaide Street Circuit, Australia.

    4: Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari, Italy.

    5: Istanbul Park, Turkey.

    6: Dijon-Prenois, France.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭frostie500


    I'd love for Istanbul and Imola to be brought back but I'd also love to have a few circuits brought onto the calender such as Road America (Laguna would be the preference but F1 cars are way to fast for it), Philip Island and Mugello


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    I seem to remember loving Kylami in Microprose Grand Prix.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭CaptainFreedom


    Brands Hatch would be nice, but would need the pit buildings massively upgraded and grandstands etc added


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Zcott


    Pre-butchered Hockenheim.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    I'd love to see Brands Hatch back on the calender, so much better than Silverstone.

    Zandvoort. Not quite the circuit it once was but it would be cool to have a DRS zone along the main straight into Tarzan.

    Mont-Tremblant. It's current layout could be safe enough for F1. Would need a new pit building, more stands and bigger run-off areas. It's in a beautiful setting and has some great elevation changes. They should alternate it with Montreal.

    Watkins Glen. Magnificent circuit and hosting it in the autumn with a backdrop of autumn colours would be perfect. Again it would need better facilities and more run-off.

    Paul Ricard or Djion. Either circuit would certainly be a welcome addition to the calender. It's not the same without a French GP and Magny-Cours is a little too bland.

    Imola. Another circuit that's sorely missed despite the tragedies associated with it. Maybe with the more recent redevelopment of the circuit there could be a glimmer of hope.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Nordscheifle
    Circuit de la Sarthe
    Daytona
    Avus
    Pescara
    Monza (banking)
    Indy (oval)
    Reims
    Pheonix Park

    While day dreaming on the Luas modern F1 cars armed with KERS and DRS do battle on the above. For the craic you know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭frostie500


    Long Beach....

    Absolutely cracking circuit and the natural home for F1 on the west coast of the US and if Bernie is looking to buy the rights a return in a couple of years isnt far fetched


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    Aintree would make a great track, and would have tremendous facilities available if the will was there.

    _49704826_aintree_video_still.jpg

    I've always had a soft spot for Donington Park too but for it to hold another F1 race Tilke would have to butcher it first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    frostie500 wrote: »
    Road America

    That's a great track. The Carousel and the climb up to the start/finish line.
    Zero1986 wrote: »
    I'd love to see Brands Hatch back on the calender, so much better than Silverstone.

    Brands Hatch is awesome. Paddock Hill Bend is just superb.

    Would like to see a GP back in Portugal, but at Portimao instead of Estoril.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭CaptainFreedom



    I've always had a soft spot for Donington Park too but for it to hold another F1 race Tilke would have to butcher it first.

    He had when Simon Gillet had temporarily got the rights to host the GP there, but at least the Craner Curves were left intact


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭YbFocus


    I'd love to see them race at the A1 ring again :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    Imola
    Mexico
    Paul Ricard or indeed if they could manage it Le mans
    Mugello


    Maybe Turkey but it never really produced outstanding races.
    It probably would have more passing out in these artificial DRS times.

    Definitely no to Austria and Brands Hatch especially Austria.

    That was a terrible modern day track.

    I think Imola was recently licensed to be able to hold F1 races again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Adelaide always seemed to produce great races but the fantasy F1 return would have to be the original Monza circuit - what remains of the old banking has to be seen to be believed.

    Its unfortunate that so many great circuits have been lost to the Tilke spec circuits of today.

    For pure racing - not a F1 circuit - but Cleveland airport circuit provided spectacular racing in its Indycar days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Grim.


    Road America and Road Atlanta, two of the worlds great circuits that not enough people in Europe have heard of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Grim.


    and old Hockenhiem, it still sickens my hole knowing what they did to it.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    ^ Hakkinen doing 223MPH in qualifying :D Those 3 Litre V10's - the business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭frostie500


    I loved the old Hockenheim because it was such a wildcard during the season. There used to be only there and Monza where the cars were in ultra-low downforce configuration and at both races there were specialists who could make the most of the car, someone like Gerhard Berger for instance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    The old Hockenheimring was a big test for the engines too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Rascasse


    frostie500 wrote: »
    I loved the old Hockenheim because it was such a wildcard during the season. There used to be only there and Monza where the cars were in ultra-low downforce configuration and at both races there were specialists who could make the most of the car, someone like Gerhard Berger for instance.

    Silverstone was ultra low downforce too until they started bastardising it in the early 90's. I think it was the fastest circuit on the calendar - even faster than Monza, with some great balls out corners at Stowe, Club and Abbey.

    Imola was a great circuit before it too was bastardised.

    Surprised to see Brands and Kyalami mentioned as I think both were completely unsuitable for F1. Too narrow and tight. I'd say a modern F1 car could lap Brands in under a minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,038 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Rascasse wrote: »
    Surprised to see Brands and Kyalami mentioned as I think both were completely unsuitable for F1. Too narrow and tight. I'd say a modern F1 car could lap Brands in under a minute.

    I think BTCC cars were lapping the full circuit @ ~1:40-45 per lap, so an F1 car could probably do a lap @ ~1:00.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,224 ✭✭✭Tow


    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,414 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    The best thing about Hockenheim though was the length, at nearly 8km long you only passed your pit garage 45 times, compared to Monza, where you get 53 laps out of track. Those straights were immense.
    Incidentally does that track in Buenos Aries still exist?

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭frostie500


    flazio wrote: »
    Incidentally does that track in Buenos Aries still exist?

    It's still used for touring cars and other national races in Argentina but they are building a new track which could be in MotoGP soon. There's a test there in July with Yamaha and Ducati


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    frostie500 wrote: »
    It's still used for touring cars and other national races in Argentina but they are building a new track which could be in MotoGP soon. There's a test there in July with Yamaha and Ducati

    Where is the new track going to be in Argentina?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,444 ✭✭✭frostie500


    Jordan 191 wrote: »
    Where is the new track going to be in Argentina?

    It's also in Buenos Aires. Looks quite similar in some ways to the old track so maybe it's built on the same site. I cant find anything to confirm it one way or the other if it is the same site-my internet connection is very poor here

    Circuito_Argentina.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    frostie500 wrote: »
    It's also in Buenos Aires. Looks quite similar in some ways to the old track so maybe it's built on the same site. I cant find anything to confirm it one way or the other if it is the same site-my internet connection is very poor here

    I read it will be situated in Velociudad, 80km's south of Buenos Airies. Speedcity Circuit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Rascasse


    The MotoGP test is at another circuit (Termas di Rio Hondo), not Velociudad/Speedcity.

    Re. Velociudad/Speedcity - it looks like they ran out of money (if they had any in the first place) and will likely never be built. The estimable Joe Saward wrote about it back in 2011 here. Quite funny really, guy claims to have $100m to build a circuit without an F1 deal and in a country that's economy that is rapidly going down the tubes. How did he think his investors would ever get their money back?

    Interesting too that Repsol is pushing MotoGP not to race in Argentina after the government renationalised YPF that Repsol had invested heavily in when it was privatised. Must be tough for the Argentine race fans to not have any of the big motorsports series visiting the country that gave us Fangio.

    Edit: Forgot to add that if F1 was to go back to Argentina then it would most likely be at the resort town of Mar Del Plata using a street circuit. The government backs the plan but it looks like money is a problem. Circuit plan (looks comical).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 dogpatch06


    Agree with those saying old Hockenheim. Dont think we'll be seeing it anytime soon though as its been returned to nature unfortunatly :(.

    hockenheimnow1.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    When they used to have a GP in Mexico it used to be really bumpy and because Mexico City was at altitude incredibly tough on engines (and so on drivers as well).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    When they used to have a GP in Mexico it used to be really bumpy and because Mexico City was at altitude incredibly tough on engines (and so on drivers as well).

    The track was in a bad way when F1 raced there last in 1992. Facilities will need to be upgraded to the circuit before F1 returns there, which hopefully will be next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭vincenzolorenzo


    Osterreichring (not A1 ring), Imola and Zandvoort!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,480 ✭✭✭YbFocus


    Osterreichring (not A1 ring)

    It hasn't been called that since the early 90's, even A1 ring is incorrect, its the red bull ring for the past 2 years or so. It was closed for nearly a decade when f1 left the track.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭vincenzolorenzo


    YbFocus wrote: »
    It hasn't been called that since the early 90's, even A1 ring is incorrect, its the red bull ring for the past 2 years or so. It was closed for nearly a decade when f1 left the track.

    I know that, but Osterreichring was a serious track. A1 ring was much more point and squirt and slower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Osterreichring:

    osterreichring77-95_map.gif

    A1 Ring:

    a1ring_map.gif


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 319 ✭✭Bugatti


    I don't think there's any circuit I could mention that hasn't been already mentioned but what I'd like to see back are the old features of tracks such as gravel traps and fast sweeping corners. I know I can't ingore the fact that changes have been made to improve safety. I just hate the fact that we now don't get to see drivers punished for mistakes like they were in the past (see video clip!)



    I've been saying for a long time now that there is so many classic tracks around Europe that get overlooked. I'd love if the European GP was rotated ever year to allow some of these tracks to stage races, even if it was only once ever 6/7 years (and it was finanically viable for them to do so!).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon


    I agree about some kind of rotation with regards the European GP. Maybe one year through a city like Pau as Grosjean suggested,then at Le mans, then, Imola, etc

    5 or 6 tracks sharing the European GP wouldnt be a bad idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,038 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Pau is less than 2.8km long. An F1 car can probably lap it in ~50s, and there's not many opportunities for overtaking.


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