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  • 26-04-2013 11:07pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭


    Are there any new fire men been hired in Ireland, or is it stopped like the garda


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭seven_eleven


    Usually each station hires when a spot becomes available, its not like the guards. Usually its 1 -2 spaces at most, and they pop up every few years or so. It's fairly hard and competitive but if you're determined you could go for it.

    Not sure where you would find out really, keep on eye on the papers, and maybe your local stations facebook page if they have one?

    I know the last time Waterford fire station recruited a retained FF it wasn't even posted here on boards.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,808 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    Feel free to ask all about it over in our Other Emergency Services Recruitment forum, as that forum is frequented by serving Fire & Rescue personnel and they would have the experience to answer any questions you may have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭BaronVon




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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 9,808 CMod ✭✭✭✭Shield


    foreign wrote: »
    Only open to employees of the four Dublin Councils.
    I can't help but wonder if there are any equality issues that haven't been considered by doing that?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    Shield wrote: »
    I can't help but wonder if there are any equality issues that haven't been considered by doing that?

    Absolutely. What a joke, there's tons of well qualified people out there who'd jump on this. Is it to limit the amount of admin required to process the candidates? Or... let me see, it is Dublin City Council... Oh right, the firemen have been selected already!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭timmywex


    Shield wrote: »
    I can't help but wonder if there are any equality issues that haven't been considered by doing that?

    Nah its just an internal competition, every job in the world hires internal only candidates for various positions.

    Not a wise choice though i think, missing alot of great people that way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    Shield wrote: »
    I can't help but wonder if there are any equality issues that haven't been considered by doing that?

    What they're doing is not dramatically increasing the wage bill of DCC by using people already employed by the council. Just reallocation of manpower really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    timmywex wrote: »
    Nah its just an internal competition, every job in the world hires internal only candidates for various positions.

    Not a wise choice though i think, missing alot of great people that way!

    So why wasn't it internal competitions up until now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    discus wrote: »
    So why wasn't it internal competitions up until now?

    They could afford the extra wages of new people?


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    discus wrote: »
    So why wasn't it internal competitions up until now?

    As said. Councils have to cut numbers in some areas so makes sense to redeploy on application. What are the bin collectors doing since the privatisation of the services? And so on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    discus wrote: »
    So why wasn't it internal competitions up until now?


    ......................because its called redeployment. The private sector have been screaming about overstaffed public services in some areas while there is shortages in others. Part of Croke Park 1 (which is still an agreement until next year) is to redeploy staff in to areas of shortage.


    This competition is open to staff of all 4 Dublin councils and is actually more stringent than the last public competition in its requirements for selection.......and no they haven't been selected already.


    At this stage we're damned if we do and damned if we don't...................i've a pain in my hole listening to it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    Shield wrote: »
    I can't help but wonder if there are any equality issues that haven't been considered by doing that?

    I'm not aware of the exclusion of females, homeosexuals, jews, protestants, muslims, ethnic minorities or people born in Cork so I think they have it covered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭Bang Bang


    Paulzx wrote: »
    ......................because its called redeployment. The private sector have been screaming about overstaffed public services in some areas while there is shortages in others. Part of Croke Park 1 (which is still an agreement until next year) is to redeploy staff in to areas of shortage.

    Excellent point Paulzx.
    I've said it before and I'll say it again, some folk should be careful what they wish for, I'm referring to the public service beaters we often hear from in various media.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    Bang Bang wrote: »
    Excellent point Paulzx.
    I've said it before and I'll say it again, some folk should be careful what they wish for, I'm referring to the public service beaters we often hear from in various media.

    Since I seem to be seen as the voice of dissent, I'll just point out that I'm PS too!

    I just have a thing against internal competitions in the PS. They draw in staff from other areas -posts of which then go unfilled, and I always have the notion that the advertised posts are filled before the vacancies are announced. Really bothers me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭Bang Bang


    discus wrote: »
    Since I seem to be seen as the voice of dissent, I'll just point out that I'm PS too!

    I just have a thing against internal competitions in the PS. They draw in staff from other areas -posts of which then go unfilled, and I always have the notion that the advertised posts are filled before the vacancies are announced. Really bothers me.

    I have not made reference to your post discus, I'm referring in general to the public service beaters we hear from regularly and seldom see! These public service beaters are now getting what they wished for, a cut in public service spending. But these cuts are effecting many frontline services, the Ambulance Service now have rolling closures of ambulance stations, in the busier larger stations there are rosters going unfulfilled as in no ambulance cover so less ambulances on the road. Need I mention the number of Garda stations now closed down?
    Now Dublin City Council are implementing further cuts by not holding an open recruitment, instead they are redeploying from other departments that have also been effected by cuts in public service spending.

    So for those public service beaters still out there shouting for cuts, you are getting what you wished for, just don't moan when you require the assistance of the emergency services...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭thatboy


    I see DFB are hiring 4 assistant chiefs? How come this isnt internal recruitment as well?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,195 ✭✭✭goldie fish


    thatboy wrote: »
    I see DFB are hiring 4 assistant chiefs? How come this isnt internal recruitment as well?

    ACFOs need specific engineering qualifications, I believe.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 340 ✭✭ivabiggon


    no they don't not any more????? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭truebluesac


    ACFO require a degree in a relavant field . Engineering , health and safety , HR etc .

    For a possition like that they needthe correct candidate . Somtimes not always available from within its ranks but there are candidates applying from within its members


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭TomRooney


    Hi guys, just wondering if any of you would have any insight into the dispatch call takers positions, what's involved, work, shift, pay etc.

    As for the Fire Brigade, I think they're one of the most valuable yet undervalued services in the state. They should be the very last service to take any cuts.


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