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Leasing cows

  • 25-04-2013 10:30pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭


    I was approached by a farmer to lease 40 cows for the remainder of the season at a cost to me of €400.

    This milk if I decide to produce would be all over quota milk, would I be mad to take on the risk?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭mf240


    When can you give them back?

    I think I'd chance it.

    Looking unlikely that country will be over quota and milk price will hit 40 cents in a month or two.

    Small money for the Cows with no winter feed to worry about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    not knowing anything about the financials of the transaction but leasing cows can have serious pitfalls if animals died, get injured, dont go back incalf etc. Cow would be costing you a euro every time she rocks into the parlor, but you will be carrying her during her production period which is okay. So many variables, current cow condition, current diet, potential production, movement issues with disease. Im sure there are loads of positives


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    mf240 wrote: »
    When can you give them back?

    I think I'd chance it.

    Looking unlikely that country will be over quota and milk price will hit 40 cents in a month or two.

    Small money for the Cows with no winter feed to worry about.
    They are freshly calved good young cows and I would hope to milk them for 300 days


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭TEAT SQUEEZER


    delaval wrote: »
    They are freshly calved good young cows and I would hope to milk them for 300 days

    u did say somewhere u lack oppertunity to dilute ure fixed costs....:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    If we had the same amount of land that we did last yr (1.8 lu/ha), I'd be trying to snap up that offer myself ha, will probably be 100klitres under quota again so wouldn't have to risk the whole lot as a superlevy. Bringing in disease is certainly the biggest risk though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    u did say somewhere u lack oppertunity to dilute ure fixed costs....:D
    Jesus a superlevy fine would do some damage though:mad::mad::mad: especially when it's an own goal


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭TEAT SQUEEZER


    delaval wrote: »
    Jesus a superlevy fine would do some damage though:mad::mad::mad: especially when it's an own goal

    like slipping on the bar of a gate just as u swing the leg over... country is 10% shy of last years supply according to the findo but then last year in march was super duper... so the country might not be that far off the required levels at the moment.. the first official dept. figures will be interesting whenever they`re due...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    like slipping on the bar of a gate just as you swing the leg over...............one of the best lines I have heard in a while


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    like slipping on the bar of a gate just as u swing the leg over... country is 10% shy of last years supply according to the findo but then last year in march was super duper... so the country might not be that far off the required levels at the moment.. the first official dept. figures will be interesting whenever they`re due...
    Phuck look at the time I have to milk in the morning (5hrs kip) and then go to Puncestown to view a few slow horses and fast women that even if I could catch wouldn't know what to do with them............good luck

    I only started the computer tonight to get some movement certs will have to wait again:mad::mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 516 ✭✭✭TEAT SQUEEZER


    bit early to go gung ho on the quota i`d say... your really puttin yourself out there .. if ure quota advise goes pear shaped your name will be blackened here forever:D.. your balers by the end of the month line is already causing some serious questions to be asked about your "judgement":D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    they sound dear at 400.simple how much is that milk going to cost and balance it against the risk.i do think we will be on or over based on sheer numbers available and outlook for price is good so it could pay to feed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    bit early to go gung ho on the quota i`d say... your really puttin yourself out there .. if ure quota advise goes pear shaped your name will be blackened here forever:D.. your balers by the end of the month line is already causing some serious questions to be asked about your "judgement":D

    Listen here Squeezer yourself and that other pup down your country Freedom seem to have formed a pact to make my life and shortcomings as obvious as you can I ask you to desist.
    Perhaps my comment about balers in April may have been a little on the optimistic side I have to admit. I am sure some one some where will bale on the Journal in April sure Bob is pulling beet and he bought silage made in Feb and in his own words is only a poor peasant farmer!!!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 839 ✭✭✭Dampintheattic


    delaval wrote: »
    like slipping on the bar of a gate just as you swing the leg over...............one of the best lines I have heard in a while


    Definition of agony. Sliding down the banister of a stairs, using your balls for brakes:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭ABlur


    delaval wrote: »
    Listen here Squeezer yourself and that other pup down your country Freedom seem to have formed a pact to make my life and shortcomings as obvious as you can I ask you to desist.
    Perhaps my comment about balers in April may have been a little on the optimistic side I have to admit. I am sure some one some where will bale on the Journal in April sure Bob is pulling beet and he bought silage made in Feb and in his own words is only a poor peasant farmer!!!!!!

    I saw round bales being made in Caherdavin Limerick about two weeks ago, before the weather broke!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    delaval wrote: »
    I was approached by a farmer to lease 40 cows for the remainder of the season at a cost to me of €400.

    This milk if I decide to produce would be all over quota milk, would I be mad to take on the risk?

    What has to happen in order for a super-levy fine to occur? - presumably whole country over quota?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    ABlur wrote: »
    I saw round bales being made in Caherdavin Limerick about two weeks ago, before the weather broke!
    Ha Ha told ya so:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭Mulumpy


    Just looking for lads opinions on cow leasng. Im in talks with my cousin over him leasing my herd of dairy cows from 2015. Im working full time off farm as well so want to make life easier for myself going forward. He wants to double his numbers without massive cost.

    What am thinking of is:
    Cows go to his farm as soon calved.
    He puts them in calf and returns to me at drying off.
    He brings his bulling heifers from his own herd to me in February I put them in calf.
    He brings weaned replacement calves to me in May.
    All his stock return to him for housing.
    We'd have the same disese control poicy.

    Im still costing this at the moment. Maybe it'd be madness but has plenty of advantages on both sides. Anyone any opinions on this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    Mulumpy wrote: »
    Just looking for lads opinions on cow leasng. Im in talks with my cousin over him leasing my herd of dairy cows from 2015. Im working full time off farm as well so want to make life easier for myself going forward. He wants to double his numbers without massive cost.

    What am thinking of is:
    Cows go to his farm as soon calved.
    He puts them in calf and returns to me at drying off.
    He brings his bulling heifers from his own herd to me in February I put them in calf.
    He brings weaned replacement calves to me in May.
    All his stock return to him for housing.
    We'd have the same disese control poicy.

    Im still costing this at the moment. Maybe it'd be madness but has plenty of advantages on both sides. Anyone any opinions on this.

    Pm me


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