hyundai i30 , good buy?

gooner99

Looking for a new car to replace an old 323. what do you guys think of the hyundai i30. good car?

Do about 15k miles per year.How does the diesel stack up, many known problems with the engine?

Any known problems elsewhere with this model?

What are the like to run in terms of economy, servicing, parts, etc..

Came across this one on donedeal,sounds pretty good.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4923758

colm_mcm

Mileage is a bit big, but they're a very good car and that ones very well priced.
Go in with your eyes open.


Also its probably 90 not 116hp, but a sticker in the drivers door jamb will confirm what hp it is.

Albert E. Arkwright

gooner99 wrote: »

Looking for a new car to replace an old 323. what do you guys think of the hyundai i30. good car?

Do about 15k miles per year.How does the diesel stack up, many known problems with the engine?

Any known problems elsewhere with this model?

Came across this one on donedeal,sounds pretty good.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4923758

They are a great motor by all accounts and 60 + mpg if you're careful, and very reliable.

Highish miles on that one, but has a full reputable main dealer service history.

If you are buying, check the service history out with the dealer to see if his records tally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSIiab6AN_o

gooner99

colm_mcm wrote: »

Mileage is a bit big, but they're a very good car and that ones very well priced.
Go in with your eyes open.


Also its probably 90 not 116hp, but a sticker in the drivers door jamb will confirm what hp it is.

Yes see what you mean, I thought it was km's. Although also thought that a full service history on a high mile car was better than low miles,especially on a diesel. Don't diesels need good millage every year or else they cause problems, but never had a diesel before,so maybe I'm totally wrong. Can this engine easily take high miles, or are they a soft engine?

Anyone know if they have a cam belt or chain?

gooner99

Albert E. Arkwright wrote: »

They are a great motor by all accounts and 60 + mpg if you're careful, and very reliable.

Highish miles on that one, but has a full reputable main dealer service history.

If you are buying, check the service history out with the dealer to see if his records tally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSIiab6AN_o

thanks for the link,will check out the review

colm_mcm

They have a timing chain

LadyBetty

gooner99 wrote: »

Don't diesels need good millage every year or else they cause problems, but never had a diesel before,so maybe I'm totally wrong.

Is this true, I have never heard it before? I'm interested to know as changing my petrol engine for a diesel engine this week

colm_mcm

Its generally true, but diesel particulate filter problems on that 1.6 engine are virtually unheard of.

Fiesta

Doubt its 115hp...

Registration 08DL2680
Make Hyundai
Model i30 Deluxe D 90 BHP 1.6
Colour BLACK
Fuel Type DIESEL
Engine Size 1.6L

colm_mcm

...thought as much.

gooner99

colm_mcm wrote: »

Its generally true, but diesel particulate filter problems on that 1.6 engine are virtually unheard of.

Interesting, as a lot of the bad things I've read about modern diesels are to do with the DPF. Are you saying that these Hyundai 1.6 diesel engines are very reliable, or are they pretty much in line with the competition, minus the DPF problems?

colm_mcm

I'd say they're the most reliable diesel in that class.



Someone'll obviously disagree, but I'm sticking with that.

gooner99

colm_mcm wrote: »

I'd say they're the most reliable diesel in that class.



Someone'll obviously disagree, but I'm sticking with that.

Good to know the engine is a good one. Do they suffer from problems in other areas. What are they like to maintain and repair?

Basically I'm looking at the whole package when buying, rather than solely looking at fuel and tax costs, which can be a false economy if plagued by high maintenance and repair bills.

colm_mcm

Got one (08 116hp premium) in the uk for my mother this time last year. In that time (10,000 miles) it's needed a tyre pressure monitor on one wheel (warranty, not fitted to Irish ones) and needed a brake caliper cleaned as it was sticking.

All in all nothing unusual there, I think the tyre pressure monitor was broken when new tyres were out on.

I was very wary of a newer car for her, as she had a string of 323s and corollas before which never gave a days trouble.

dh0011

LadyBetty wrote: »

Is this true, I have never heard it before? I'm interested to know as changing my petrol engine for a diesel engine this week

are you changing your car or swapping the engine?

gooner99

colm_mcm wrote: »

Got one (08 116hp premium) in the uk for my mother this time last year. In that time (10,000 miles) it's needed a tyre pressure monitor on one wheel (warranty, not fitted to Irish ones) and needed a brake caliper cleaned as it was sticking.

All in all nothing unusual there, I think the tyre pressure monitor was broken when new tyres were out on.

I was very wary of a newer car for her, as she had a string of 323s and corollas before which never gave a days trouble.

I know what you mean about the corolla's and 323. had 3 older 1.3 corolla's and wife currently has a 1.3 323, which is grand apart from wear and tear items which make it hard to pass nct without spending more than the cars worth (not in mint body condition).

The Koreans seem to be getting there with their cars now. The warranty's are hard to beat too. Sounds like it so far so good for your mothers. What she like on fuel, tax , servicing costs (I'd imagine you need to stick to the dealer for the warranty cover)?

colm_mcm

5 year warranty on the uk ones, a lot of 08 Irish ones only had 3 year warranty.
Tax is €225 I think and its averaging 55mpg on country driving.
Service at 70k was €160 I think. (Main dealer)


Sorry forgot, it also got a sticky seatbelt buckle done on warranty, it passed a uk mot and nct with it, but wanted it replaced before warranty expired.

gooner99

colm_mcm wrote: »

5 year warranty on the uk ones, a lot of 08 Irish ones only had 3 year warranty.
Tax is €225 I think and its averaging 55mpg on country driving.
Service at 70k was €160 I think. (Main dealer)


Sorry forgot, it also got a sticky seatbelt buckle done on warranty, it passed a uk mot and nct with it, but wanted it replaced before warranty expired.

qn

Many thanks for the replies. Sounds like the warranty has been comprehensive and good to know the Irish dealer looked after it despite it being a UK car. What are the service intervals like on these?

LadyBetty

dh0011 wrote: »

are you changing your car or swapping the engine?

I'm changing my car, '00 Honda Civic for '12 Hyundai ix35 (UK import).

colm_mcm

Interval is very long, 20,000 miles but ours was done every 10 and this will be continued.

dh0011

i was wondering
good luck with the new car

gooner99

colm_mcm wrote: »

Interval is very long, 20,000 miles but ours was done every 10 and this will be continued.

20k does seem a bit long alright. guess we feel a bit uncomfortable leaving the oil that long. but then again it's not long since we were nervous of 10k intervals when we were all used to 5k intervals.

dutopia

I've heard the i30 is a very good car, particularly the 1.6 diesel (Higher bhp version). Reliable and good mpg. I was going to buy one but went for a Focus MK II 1.6 auto petrol. I personally think the Focus is sexier and a lot of fun to drive.

gooner99

dutopia wrote: »

I've heard the i30 is a very good car, particularly the 1.6 diesel (Higher bhp version). Reliable and good mpg. I was going to buy one but went for a Focus MK II 1.6 auto petrol. I personally think the Focus is sexier and a lot of fun to drive.

Yes Focus is a nice car alright.

So I guess in the i30 the higher bhp one is the one to go for. But I guess in Ireland most would have gone for the lower bhp one due to price, so they may be hard to find second hand.

Albert E. Arkwright

gooner99 wrote: »

Yes Focus is a nice car alright.

So I guess in the i30 the higher bhp one is the one to go for. But I guess in Ireland most would have gone for the lower bhp one due to price, so they may be hard to find second hand.

Yes 115 bhp is nice, but I would not pass up a good 90 bhp i30 if I came across one. 90 bhp is plenty for day to day driving, unless bhp is your priority, in which case any i30 may not be for you.

furtzy

Cracking little engine. My mum had the same unit (115 bhp) in her Pro-Ceed. Very very nippy and very reliable. And the bonus of it using a timing chain as well

gooner99

Good to be hearing good things about this diesel engine, seems super reliable with few faults. Same seems to go for the rest of the car. My wifes friend has a 2008 one from new (not sure what bhp), so will be well tested by now. Must have a chat with her to see how she's going,maybe get a spin in it. bhp wouldn't be too much of an issue for me tbh. current 1.4 75bhp golf and a 1.3 ?bhp 323 don't exactly set the world alight, but are fine for us even in hilly Donegal.

barryfitz

A great buy IMO but I am biased.
I bought the facelifted 2011 model, brand new on the scrappage scheme.
Its 90bhp, I was told at the time that the 115bhp model was not being sold on these shores any more. Which was correct. I would have went for it at the time if it was.
>>>Edit I think the 115 may have been on sale under the "Premium" class, which would have had to be ordered.

My father had the 2010 diesel and he always felt it could have done with another gear, they introduced the 6th gear in the facelift and it really does make a difference having driven both.

I had one or 2 problems, but they were all taken care of by the dealer under warranty.
1) A switch/sensor went in the gear box which was making the gear changes very rough and was affecting the shift indicator.
2) It was eating dipped bulbs, seems to be a common occurrence on the diesel. I replaced a load of them myself, which isnt easy as the lamp cluster has to be removed on the nearside. Eventually got fed up, rang the dealer and they changed part of the wiring loom which seems to have sorted the problem. (fingers crossed 6months on)

I love driving it, its well capable and sticking to the limits I average 5.3 l/100Km on a motorway spin. Drop to 110KPH and 4.9 is easily achievable.

I think the manual for my one says a service interval of 30,000KM! I never leave it that long and usually get it done between the 15 and 20 mark.

Few things I would have liked, (considering it is the "deluxe" model)
Half leather, wasnt an option on my one. it is on the pre facelift.
They got rid of some of the cubby storage in the facelift,i.e. above the radio and a second compartment in the arm rest.
Hate the fact that the drivers window is auto down but not auto up.
and thats about it really, oh cruise control would be great.

Good sound system, with ipod/usb connectivity.
comfortable,
frugal,
nippy enough,
loads of space,
suits me perfectly.

colm_mcm

gooner99 wrote: »

Yes Focus is a nice car alright.

So I guess in the i30 the higher bhp one is the one to go for. But I guess in Ireland most would have gone for the lower bhp one due to price, so they may be hard to find second hand.

Far as i know the deluxe models were 116 up till early 08

gooner99

barryfitz wrote: »

A great buy IMO but I am biased.
I bought the facelifted 2011 model, brand new on the scrappage scheme.
Its 90bhp, I was told at the time that the 115bhp model was not being sold on these shores any more. Which was correct. I would have went for it at the time if it was.
>>>Edit I think the 115 may have been on sale under the "Premium" class, which would have had to be ordered.

My father had the 2010 diesel and he always felt it could have done with another gear, they introduced the 6th gear in the facelift and it really does make a difference having driven both.

I had one or 2 problems, but they were all taken care of by the dealer under warranty.
1) A switch/sensor went in the gear box which was making the gear changes very rough and was affecting the shift indicator.
2) It was eating dipped bulbs, seems to be a common occurrence on the diesel. I replaced a load of them myself, which isnt easy as the lamp cluster has to be removed on the nearside. Eventually got fed up, rang the dealer and they changed part of the wiring loom which seems to have sorted the problem. (fingers crossed 6months on)

I love driving it, its well capable and sticking to the limits I average 5.3 l/100Km on a motorway spin. Drop to 110KPH and 4.9 is easily achievable.

I think the manual for my one says a service interval of 30,000KM! I never leave it that long and usually get it done between the 15 and 20 mark.

Few things I would have liked, (considering it is the "deluxe" model)
Half leather, wasnt an option on my one. it is on the pre facelift.
They got rid of some of the cubby storage in the facelift,i.e. above the radio and a second compartment in the arm rest.
Hate the fact that the drivers window is auto down but not auto up.
and thats about it really, oh cruise control would be great.

Good sound system, with ipod/usb connectivity.
comfortable,
frugal,
nippy enough,
loads of space,
suits me perfectly.

thanks for the reply.sounds good and so far no one reporting DPF issues!

chinwag

barryfitz wrote: »

Hate the fact that the drivers window is auto down but not auto up.

Interesting post, I like these cars myself . . . . but I don't understand this part . I'm probably missing something?

colm_mcm

Press button once, it goes all the way down. Pull button once, it only goes up a bit.
You have to hold the switch when closing the window.


(Can't say I noticed that on the 08, pretty sure they're all auto up and down)

solas111

Never thought I would drive anything other than a Toyota but I bought a Hyundai i30 1.6 DSL Deluxe at the New Year.

Over 8000km on the clock now, all short to medium length journeys and so far so good. Fuel consumption calculated by the vehicle and confirmed by my own calculations is 5.4 Litres per 100km; Motor Tax €180. Three years free servicing and the option of another two years for €200.

They are a bit low for bad Irish roads but I suppose most new cars are like that now. Some of the safety features are a good idea in theory but annoying in practice but I’m just discovering how to disable a few of the worst offenders. Boot size seems smaller than the Corolla.

Very happy with the i30 overall.

chinwag

colm_mcm wrote: »

Press button once, it goes all the way down. Pull button once, it only goes up a bit.
You have to hold the switch when closing the window.


(Can't say I noticed that on the 08, pretty sure they're all auto up and down)

I get it - it's obviously a safety feature.

colm_mcm

chinwag wrote: »

I get it - it's obviously a safety feature.

Yes, but some cars have auto up as well, on my civic and lots of other cars, if the windows going up and hits something it goes back down

Hyundai got a bit mean on the facelift, premium model lost the full leather for example and some other bits were removed from the other specs

gooner99

solas111 wrote: »

Never thought I would drive anything other than a Toyota but I bought a Hyundai i30 1.6 DSL Deluxe at the New Year.

Over 8000km on the clock now, all short to medium length journeys and so far so good. Fuel consumption calculated by the vehicle and confirmed by my own calculations is 5.4 Litres per 100km; Motor Tax €180. Three years free servicing and the option of another two years for €200.

They are a bit low for bad Irish roads but I suppose most new cars are like that now. Some of the safety features are a good idea in theory but annoying in practice but I’m just discovering how to disable a few of the worst offenders. Boot size seems smaller than the Corolla.

Very happy with the i30 overall.

Thats the new model (2013) your talking about right?

Nice car.

Fabritzo

Is it not likely that the odo in Km if the car was originally bought in Letterkenny?

Albert E. Arkwright

Fabritzo wrote: »

Is it not likely that the odo in Km if the car was originally bought in Letterkenny?

Yes, but km's is more to the benefit of people who sell road signs and the connected politicians that brought it in.

And If you're selling a car 128,000 miles also sounds a lot better than 205,996 km's.

The Metric system became official in Ireland and the UK in the 70's yet many people today are still more comfortable with thinking in feet and inches.

gooner99

Anyone experience of the 1.4 petrol. what like is that engine for reliability and economy?

Honest John seems to think it takes quite a while to recoup the higher price of the 1.6d http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/hyundai/i30-2007/?section=road-test

barryfitz

My father also had the 1.4 petrol (2008), no issues with reliability and he always preferred it to the 2010 diesel he bought in 2010. Purely for the smoothness of petrol Vs diesel. Fuel consumption was marginally higher, I cant remember the figures now but hardly noticeable, probably due to the lighter weight lump under the bonnet. Its a fine car too.

gooner99

barryfitz wrote: »

My father also had the 1.4 petrol (2008), no issues with reliability and he always preferred it to the 2010 diesel he bought in 2010. Purely for the smoothness of petrol Vs diesel. Fuel consumption was marginally higher, I cant remember the figures now but hardly noticeable, probably due to the lighter weight lump under the bonnet. Its a fine car too.

Interesting,maybe my millage of 15k miles per year may only justify the 1.4 petrol, which probably has more poke than my mk5 golf 1.4 75bhp. Do you know it had a timing belt or chain?

Be interesting to hear what your father thinks at this stage on the different engines and their mpg.

colm_mcm

Thing is, in practice, petrol i30s aren't really that much cheaper to buy.

gooner99

colm_mcm wrote: »

Thing is, in practice, petrol i30s aren't really that much cheaper to buy.

Had a look there and that seems to be the case alright.I think I'll check out the diesels.

07472161

Hi, thinking of buying an i30 tomorrow, its a 08 1.6 diesel Deluxe. I've read through the forum and the feedback looks great, is there any other issues before I part with my money? Also is deluxe the top spec car in the i30 range?

colm_mcm

Premium model is higher spec than deluxe but there's only a handful of them in the country.
Very few specific problems, but as with any modern diesel you need to be verifying the service history and giving the car a proper once-over.

07472161

Does the Hyundai i30 5 year warranty cover used cars .ie if I'm buying a second hand, 1 previous owner, 2010 i30 am I also covered by the warranty until 2015? Also did all Irish 2010 i30's come with 5 year warranty?

colm_mcm

07472161 wrote: »

Does the Hyundai i30 5 year warranty cover used cars .ie if I'm buying a second hand, 1 previous owner, 2010 i30 am I also covered by the warranty until 2015? Also did all Irish 2010 i30's come with 5 year warranty?

Yes and yes.