So....I saw a 4-series in the flesh last week........

galwaytt

...at BMW Welt, attached to the factory.

I have to say, I like it. And I'm an Audi guy

Alanstrainor

Looks great. Damn wheels are way too big though

Oafley Jones

First BMW I've liked since the F10. Hate Those wheels though.

Zubeneschamali

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Hate Those wheels though.

I like the side view, but the front and rear bumper/spoiler yokes and silly wheels make it look pre-'felted.

Bigcheeze

De-badged. Must be a 418d

pippip

I'll only ever see that as a poor mans 6 series.

Same as porsche 911 and the boxster.

Zubeneschamali

pippip wrote: »

I'll only ever see that as a poor mans 6 series.

Naw, it's just a rebadged 3 coupé.

discombobulate

pippip wrote: »

I'll only ever see that as a poor mans 6 series.

Same as porsche 911 and the boxster.

Wouldn't mind being poor enough to buy one myself!

Jesus Christ

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Naw, it's just a rebadged 3 coupé.

Exactly. Can't understand the hoo-hah. The 6 was a new category for BMW, or at least a new one in recent history (hard to believe it's been 20 years). The 4 is a nothing, localised badge engineering.

That said, I like the look of it. Zero interest in driving it though. It'll be a long time before a 3 series will overtake the e30 M3 on my wish list.

Autosport

I actually like the wheels, gives it character

Drummerboy08

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Can you leave the motoring clichés for top gear please?

That and any man who wants a 6 series over a 911 needs his head checked.....

4 series looks nice, shame it'll be towards the end of the year before we see one.

Tea 1000

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

That and any man who wants a 6 series over a 911 needs his head checked.....

4 series looks nice, shame it'll be towards the end of the year before we see one.

I think his badly made point was that the 4 series to the 6 series is like the boxter to the 911. It took me a minute too!! Either way, his point is nonsense.

ShadowHearth

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Looks great. Damn wheels are way too big though

Bmw with no run flats is not a bmw! To destroy spine all together we will put your area on 20 inch rims!!!

Matt Simis

You guys realise the wheels can and will be changed from region, price, engine, trim etc. Its not like "this is it".

ipodrocker

nice looking coupe!

ShadowHearth

Matt Simis wrote: »

You guys realise the wheels can and will be changed from region, price, engine, trim etc. Its not like "this is it".

RedorDead

I am right in saying that this is just the concept car right? Production model still has not been revealed.

ba_barabus

Looks like an A5.

mfceiling

Really looks like a 3 series coupe

BMW are getting like Audi and not bothering their arse with any new designs - just the reduction button on the photocopier.

Zubeneschamali

mfceiling wrote: »

Really looks like a 3 series coupe

That's because it is a 3 series coupé. It replaces the 3 Coupé in the lineup.

bazz26

That looks like the concept they were showing off at recent motor shows.

And just to add there will no longer be a M3 coupe. The M3 will be a saloon and touring only. The coupe and convertible will wear a M4 badge.

copacetic

The 'concept' written on the plates is a give away alright.

MugMugs

Liking her backside. Nicely refined.

bbuzz

Yeah that's the concept, the production model's toned down a bit:

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/BMW-4-series-coupe-2013-scooped-undisguised/

RedorDead

copacetic wrote: »

The 'concept' written on the plates is a give away alright.

Extremely small as it is!

Zubeneschamali

bazz26 wrote: »

And just to add there will no longer be a M3 coupe. The M3 will be a saloon and touring only. The coupe and convertible will wear a M4 badge.

Although to confuse matters, there may be a 4 door 4 series as well.

mitosis

Looks like a Kia.

bazz26

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Although to confuse matters, there may be a 4 door 4 series as well.

That will carry the GT badge to compete with the Audi A5 Sportback. They did the same last year with the 6 Series GT as a rival to the Audi A7.

the culture of deference

Nice interior

Zcott

I want to like it but all that stitching...

listermint

Zcott wrote: »

I want to like it but all that stitching...

Im sure you realise the interiors come with options

Zcott

listermint wrote: »

Im sure you realise the interiors come with options

Yeah but none of them fall into 'affordable by regular person' bracket so I can complain about them anyway ;-)

Voodoomelon

No way will the 4 be as aggressively styled as this concept. I wonder if the top performance model will pull sales from the M3?

galwaytt

Zcott wrote: »

I want to like it but all that stitching...

Ever seen the 'baseball' interior available on the Mk1 Audi TT's ?

It's a bit OTT. I like it on the seats and doors, but the drinks holder is a bit C & W - and the pillars should be black.

I saw in Insignia in Airside a while back with a not-dissimilar interior and I liked it.

Zubeneschamali

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I wonder if the top performance model will pull sales from the M3?

Not really: it is the M3.

mfceiling

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

That's because it is a 3 series coupé. It replaces the 3 Coupé in the lineup.

So the "new" 4 series is basically a 3 series coupe........riiiiiiiiiiiight