Tandem axle Slurry Tank

delaval

We are considering changing our tanker for a bigger one. We have a 2250gl Conor 5 years old and want to change to a 3000k tandem.
My question is does anybody who has one or used one have any comments? My main concern is will the tandem scuff the grass while turning?

bob charles

tandem with steering axel I would assume you mean. Spec it up on good footwear and there shouldnt be a problem. will take more pulling in trying conditions. in the same position as yourself and getting sick **** of spreading slurry and have same size tank as yourself which really only carries 2k gls due to the recess. Give the boys in Conor a ring as they are supposed to be A1 to deal with, they would be fairly interested in trading in a 5yr old tank. Can you afford to get something more than a splash plate on the back. I wouldnt consider buying a tank now without dribble bar/trailing shoe

delaval

bob charles wrote: »

tandem with steering axel I would assume you mean. Spec it up on good footwear and there shouldnt be a problem. will take more pulling in trying conditions. in the same position as yourself and getting sick **** of spreading slurry and have same size tank as yourself which really only carries 2k gls due to the recess. Give the boys in Conor a ring as they are supposed to be A1 to deal with, they would be fairly interested in trading in a 5yr old tank. Can you afford to get something more than a splash plate on the back. I wouldnt consider buying a tank now without dribble bar/trailing shoe

The Conor we have has never given any bother really good machine. I'm not sure about trailing shoe hear very mixed reports more bad than good. Our slurry would be perfect for it as all slurry goes to lagoons. I have a 135 hp tractor should be no bother around here.

bob charles

delaval wrote: »

The Conor we have has never given any bother really good machine. I'm not sure about trailing shoe hear very mixed reports more bad than good. Our slurry would be perfect for it as all slurry goes to lagoons. I have a 135 hp tractor should be no bother around here.

I cant see any bad things about trailing shoe, unless there is a rough operator on board. Have to get a guy usually in during the summer to spread slurry as were so tight on grazing land I couldnt splashplate it on. unfortunately my slurry is a tick as sh*t so not ideal. Slurry is really becoming a serious headache if you dont have allot of land within close proximity of the yard

hedger

any 1 tell me wat it would cost to put dribble bar on the back of 2000 gallon abbey

freedominacup

delaval wrote: »

We are considering changing our tanker for a bigger one. We have a 2250gl Conor 5 years old and want to change to a 3000k tandem.
My question is does anybody who has one or used one have any comments? My main concern is will the tandem scuff the grass while turning?

One of the neighbours recently replaced the 2k abbey with a 2250gal abbey on the LGP tyres. They wanted something their 110hp could handle most of the year. They only bring out the 3k tandem after ground really dries up and haul this with a 135hp case. The tandems need v.good ground conditions unless the footwear is top class. One of the neighbours has a 15000l Joskin on small LGP tyres bought complete with trailing shoe which he never used after the first couple of months. She appears to be a fairly complex machine with a lot of extra hydraulic services even beyond the auto-fill and pump changeover. They haul that with a 180hp tractor which they bought for the job as they felt the 150hp they had wasnt really up to the job though it always worked their old 3k tanker. It may have had something to do with the extra weight and drag of the trailing shoe. Another has a tanker badged at 2500gal on floatation/LGP tyres which he says is closer to 3k than 2.5k which might be a better/more flexible option.

F.D

Dont know if you have much road work to do but, i think legally you can only have 2250 gals max on one axle, so i would say tandems with good wheels will end up back in favour with contractors if the rsa/garda starts targeting farmers and contractors
Pulled a 2500 gallon tandem i borrowed and i was surprised how much easier on the tractor it was compaired to the 2250 with the big floatations
suppose the tandem axle is holding more of the weight and not throwing it down on the back of the tractor

maxxuumman

I went from a 2000 gal hi spec to a 2650 conor. The conor is on 30.5 radials. Before I got it I demoed the 3500 tandem. The tandem was doing a bit more damage than I liked. The 2650 is brilliant to pull. Much easier and does a lot less damage than the 2000 gal on 28's. A contractor near by bought the 3500. Talking with him, he said the tandem isn't ideal in wet fields. The tandems are great if you have a lot of road work to do, but I'd you don't have a lot of road work, you can go quiet big on single axle, and spend the money on good Tyres.

PS. If youre going for a big new tank, get the auto fill. Best thing since sliced bread. Cost about 2k extra but it's brilliant. I got a second cone and hose late for my second underground tank. I would never be without it again. A definite must.

hould on hey

You might be better with single axel on 36/38 rims recessed with flotation tires as tandem axel tankers Are way To easy To turn over, And The bigger The wheel The better traction And less wear or cutting on ground. I have seen twin axel tankers turn over on their side simply going in a gap.

delaval

Priced a Conor with steering and 600 tyres auto fill Perspex sight cylinder painted €25000+vat
joskin same spec €29+vat
I think I'll struggle on for another while

bob charles

delaval wrote: »

Priced a Conor with steering and 600 tyres auto fill Perspex sight cylinder painted €25000+vat
joskin same spec €29+vat
I think I'll struggle on for another while

Joskin is a different animal altogether, and I would pay the 4k over the conor, serious amount of money to fire a bit of waste about. cheaper hire a driver for a few weeks in spring to get a good start made on it

How many gls are you guys shifting and over what average distance, your bloody monster cows make x2 times as much crap as my beefies

delaval

bob charles wrote: »

Joskin is a different animal altogether, and I would pay the 4k over the conor, serious amount of money to fire a bit of waste about. cheaper hire a driver for a few weeks in spring to get a good start made on it

How many gls are you guys shifting and over what average distance, your bloody monster cows make x2 times as much crap as my beefies

You're the first in a while to call my cows monsters.
A lot of shyt to be moved we seem to be at it all the time but try to confine to spring and backend.
Furthest block from yard 3 miles but a lot of travelling on cow roads.

yellow50HX

delaval wrote: »

You're the first in a while to call my cows monsters.
A lot of shyt to be moved we seem to be at it all the time but try to confine to spring and backend.
Furthest block from yard 3 miles but a lot of travelling on cow roads.

rather then trying to horse it all out in spring and authumn the dribble bar on a decent sized single axel might be a better option for you then a monstor tandem axel. You could spread out the spreading through out he spring summer and authnum. you could still use a spalsh plate to coat the place in feb, and throw out a few loads on paddocks as the cows come off them durin the summer. slurry from lagoons tends to be much better for trailing shoe and dribble bars. most farms on the conient use outside tanks rather then the slatted unit we use and much of teh slurry is spread using injection or bar.

Timmaay

If you're looking at spending all that money on a bigger tanker, an alternative would be to reduce the amount of slurry by putting a rainwater cover over the lagoon, bit about it in the journal yday.

delaval

Timmaay wrote: »

If you're looking at spending all that money on a bigger tanker, an alternative would be to reduce the amount of slurry by putting a rainwater cover over the lagoon, bit about it in the journal yday.

When I priced yesterday I decided that we will continue as we are more pressing things to be done. Regarding water in logoon all needed. We never spread direct from slatts as is too thick all gets pumped to lagoons first

F.D

Timmaay wrote: »

If you're looking at spending all that money on a bigger tanker, an alternative would be to reduce the amount of slurry by putting a rainwater cover over the lagoon, bit about it in the journal yday.

not much point stopping the rain water going into the lagoon when you have to draw water back in to get the slurry out
i have all the rain water off the shed diverted into the tank at the moment to save me having to draw a load or two in

F.D

delaval wrote: »

Priced a Conor with steering and 600 tyres auto fill Perspex sight cylinder painted €25000+vat
joskin same spec €29+vat
I think I'll struggle on for another while

Is there anyway to do a comparasion on the compaction between the 2x 30.5 wheels and the 4x 600 wheels ?

Delaval is ther much difference in price between the tandem and the 3000 gal single axle tank

Timmaay

Fair enough, I don't have that problem with them 'scuttery holsteins' ha

delaval

F.D wrote: »

Is there anyway to do a comparasion on the compaction between the 2x 30.5 wheels and the 4x 600 wheels ?

Delaval is ther much difference in price between the tandem and the 3000 gal single axle tank

About 6-8k

grazeaway

F.D wrote: »

not much point stopping the rain water going into the lagoon when you have to draw water back in to get the slurry out
i have all the rain water off the shed diverted into the tank at the moment to save me having to draw a load or two in

same here. will do it again after the tank is emptied in the authunm