too late for reseed

cj maxx

tell me is this crazy.
plan to spray off then grass with gallup bio-active
pin harrow the heck out of it then roll
then grass seed (should i sow barley or other crop along with it) followed by fert and roll again
its for silage.
does this sound ok or crazy
is it too late for this for this year
any reconnmended grass strains?
any comments advice very very welcome, thanks

its a hill

f140

I reseeded two five acre fields that had rape in them last year and set the grass seeds yesterday. Put bandon coop grazing no clover in one and put moregrass mg 60 in the other. it will be interesting to see the difference.
I spread all my dung
ploughed
limed
one rub of harrow
power harrow
grass seed
2 bags of 10.10.20 to the acre.
rolled

cj maxx

by the time i spray and the grass dies will it be too late.
iwont be plouhing /power harrowing just break it up as well as i can with a pin harrow then chain harrow.
good luck with yours

f140

cjmc wrote: »

by the time i spray and the grass dies will it be too late.
iwont be plouhing /power harrowing just break it up as well as i can with a pin harrow then chain harrow.
good luck with yours

i couldnt advise on your situation but I would think it should be alright but that your cutting date might be a bit later? You will be cutting arable silage green anyway

Massey10

cjmc wrote: »

tell me is this crazy.
plan to spray off then grass with gallup bio-active
pin harrow the heck out of it then roll
then grass seed (should i sow barley or other crop along with it) followed by fert and roll again
its for silage.
does this sound ok or crazy
is it too late for this for this year
any reconnmended grass strains?
any comments advice very very welcome, thanks

its a hill

Sounds fine but id get it power harrowed

Qprmeath

Sowing grass and not ploughing is not a good idea in my opinion

Harrier1980

Would like to hear this statement expanded upon!! What about steep fields, what about pasture renovation, what about stony fields, what about shallow topsoil!!! Would you still plough in this situation!!

When and especially how you reseed ground will depend on a lot such as above and how poached ground is!! The content of perennial rye! The weed content soil type structure etc... The plough is an expensive solution if you apply it to everything and in fact you can't apply it to every situation. Each should be assessed on there own merits.

Back on topic. No it is not too late to reseed! In fact the major reason people would think it too late to reseed is in case the seed bed drys out! And given recent weather patterns it's anyone's guess.

mf240

Qprmeath wrote: »

Sowing grass and not ploughing is not a good idea in my opinion

No need to plough for grass. In fact your only ploughing down the fertile layer.

6480

mf240 wrote: »

No need to plough for grass. In fact your only ploughing down the fertile layer.

yes you are right there , but in heavy ground ploughing does help drainage

Manoffeeling

mf240 wrote: »

No need to plough for grass. In fact your only ploughing down the fertile layer.

You must have very level fields

Qprmeath

Just to clarify my statement. Im a tillage farmer in north county dublin and I recently started farming over 20 acres of grassland which was sowed three or four years ago without being ploughed. Grass hardly grew at all no matter what I did as top layer of soil was hard as a rock. Gave up on it this year and ploughed it and put it in spring barley.

munkus

mf240 wrote: »

No need to plough for grass. In fact your only ploughing down the fertile layer.

Isn't Potassium concentrated in the first 2" of soil? If you're ploughing down 5 or 6 inches it's now a long way from the roots.