Kenya announce provisional Marathon teams for Worlds

ecoli

Mens:

A Kirui, W Kipsang, E Kipchoge, D Kimetto, B Koech, E Mutai, H Sugut, M Kipyego, B Kipyego

Womens:

L Kabuu, K Jeptoo, R Jeptoo, E Kiplagat, F Kiplagat, L Cheromei, S Cherop, M Akai, F Cheyech, J Chelagt

Womens team looks very strong. Once again no Makau or Mutai and interestingly Kimetto picked despite dropping out of pace making after two mile in London. In the men Kirui will have Wild Card spot meaning 3 places are between the rest

shels4ever

ecoli wrote: »

Mens:

A Kirui, W Kipsang, E Kipchoge, D Kimetto, B Koech, E Mutai, H Sugut, M Kipyego, B Kipyego

Womens:

L Kabuu, K Jeptoo, R Jeptoo, E Kiplagat, F Kiplagat, L Cheromei, S Cherop, M Akai, F Cheyech, J Chelagt

Womens team looks very strong. Once again no Makau or Mutai and interestingly Kimetto picked despite dropping out of pace making after two mile in London. In the men Kirui will have Wild Card spot meaning 3 places are between the rest

No keitany? Havent seen much of here in a while?

Ah I missed this
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2013/01/mary-keitany-is-pregnant-with-second-child-will-miss-2013-london-marathon-and-season/

robinph

ecoli wrote: »

...and interestingly Kimetto picked despite dropping out of pace making after two mile in London.

Ahh, that will be who it was that I overtook around about mile 8 then. He was probably told to either make his own way back to Tower Bridge or risk getting lost on the DLR and underground, think he chose the right option.

woodchopper

ecoli wrote: »

Mens:


Once again no Mutai

There is a bigger paycheck on offer in September for this man I would imagine

ecoli

woodchopper wrote: »

There is a bigger paycheck on offer in September for this man I would imagine

Possibly but I dont think it was his choice either way. He targetted the Olympic team last year and didn't make it and his training partner was selected this year you would think he would atleast be on the provisional list (having said that his London DNF probably made the decision for AK this year rather than Mutai himself)

It will be interesting to see how the focus changes with the WC marathon being opened up to mass participation and whether or not it will impact on prize money at WC marathons and ultimately the calibre of marathon runners

woodchopper

ecoli wrote: »

Possibly but I dont think it was his choice either way. He targetted the Olympic team last year and didn't make it and his training partner was selected this year you would think he would atleast be on the provisional list (having said that his London DNF probably made the decision for AK this year rather than Mutai himself)

It will be interesting to see how the focus changes with the WC marathon being opened up to mass participation and whether or not it will impact on prize money at WC marathons and ultimately the calibre of marathon runners

How wise is it for people running 4-6 hours for a marathon to be running in the heat and humidity of a Moscow or a China in 2015. Crazy conditions for the elites never mind the masses.

Pisco Sour

ecoli wrote: »

It will be interesting to see how the focus changes with the WC marathon being opened up to mass participation and whether or not it will impact on prize money at WC marathons and ultimately the calibre of marathon runners

Please tell me you are joking?!?!?

pconn062

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5124995

shels4ever

Pisco Sour wrote: »

Please tell me you are joking?!?!?

Why, its actually the only event that this would be possible. May not be a terrible idea.

Pisco Sour

shels4ever wrote: »

Why, its actually the only event that this would be possible. May not be a terrible idea.

Because it's the World Championships, an event for the best athletes in the world. Lets not turn our sport into triathlon with the age group world champs where you can compete in a "world champs for anybody not good enough to compete in the real world champs" kind of thing.The qualifying standards are way too soft for the marathon as they are without adding the masses in.

Also imagine if some Kenyan who didn't make the Kenyan team ran it among the masses and ended up getting a medal. How ridiculous would that be!

I know it's a great way for the IAAF to line their pockets, but personally I would be against it.

ecoli

I can see the point that PS is making and it could create alot of difficulties (an athlete beating a WC qualifier and the implications that could be associated with that)

I think the only benefit that could come from this is if the revenue generated could be put towards the prize money then it could attract some athletes who opt to run big city marathons for the pay day over global championships

Pisco Sour

ecoli wrote: »

I think the only benefit that could come from this is if the revenue generated could be put towards the prize money then it could attract some athletes who opt to run big city marathons for the pay day over global championships

This creates issues though. A bigger purse available for the marathon than for the high jump for example? That would never be allowed and other athletes would not have any of it. It's the one World Championships and each event is seen as equal.

ecoli

Pisco Sour wrote: »

This creates issues though. A bigger purse available for the marathon than for the high jump for example? That would never be allowed and other athletes would not have any of it. It's the one World Championships and each event is seen as equal.

I wouldn't see this as being an issue. Diamond league has varying contracts and there is not much said here. Marathons are where the money is in the sport and people have openly come out and said this (Leyisa Lelisa came out after he won dublin explaining that a 13 min 5k on track would earn him about 500 dollars compared to 20k for winning a second or third tier marathon )

Krusty_Clown

ecoli wrote: »

I can see the point that PS is making and it could create alot of difficulties (an athlete beating a WC qualifier and the implications that could be associated with that)

An athlete beating a WC qualifier? Sounds great! Gives those over-looked athletes an opportunity to show the world what they are capable of and why they should have been chosen. I'm sure that they could start at a different time to the 'official' field. I'm thinking of a Maria McCambridge type situation here.

RayCun

I presume by 'participate in the World Championship marathon' they really mean 'run the same course some time after the elites'. You wouldn't be able to sharpen your elbows and push past someone with the WC qualifying time in the starting pen.

ecoli

RayCun wrote: »

I presume by 'participate in the World Championship marathon' they really mean 'run the same course some time after the elites'. You wouldn't be able to sharpen your elbows and push past someone with the WC qualifying time in the starting pen.

I would imagine this would be the case where by the elite starts will be scheduled prior to mass starts however my thoughts were more along the lines of a WC qualifier who is having a bad day who is eventually caught by a sub elite (in this incidence word is being used with reference to non qualifiers)

However I can't see people who didnt make Team Kenya or Ethiopa lining up as non qualifiers as they can command appearance fees elsewhere so I wouldn't envisage any possibility of a non WC participant winning (unless there was an athlete who had a major point to prove)

Clum

The mass participation is starting at the World Half Marathon Championships next year in Copenhagen.

http://english.copenhagen2014.dk

Quote "The elite women and men will lead the race but the ambitious recreational runners – YOU, will be right behind them when the starter pistol goes off."

25000 tickets. All sold out as far as I know.

zymar

ecoli wrote: »

I wouldn't see this as being an issue. Diamond league has varying contracts and there is not much said here. Marathons are where the money is in the sport and people have openly come out and said this (Leyisa Lelisa came out after he won dublin explaining that a 13 min 5k on track would earn him about 500 dollars compared to 20k for winning a second or third tier marathon )

Prize money for winners in Dublin was €15,000 not €20,000. 5k for course record.
disappointing that the prize fund is being cut this year. Winner of men's and women's to get 10k + No fund to invite elite runners. Unfortunately no main sponsor.

tHE vAGGABOND

Winner of men's and women's to get 10k + No fund to invite elite runners. Unfortunately no main sponsor

So there is a chance of someone local [local being western european in this context] and not a 2nd or 3rd tier east African placing and winning decent money..

How is that a bad thing? Why do we need to pay 3rd tier Kenyans to show up and win our marathon?

zymar

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tHE vAGGABOND wrote: »

So there is a chance of someone local [local being western european in this context] and not a 2nd or 3rd tier east African placing and winning decent money..

How is that a bad thing? Why do we need to pay 3rd tier Kenyans to show up and win our marathon?

I wasn't implying that it is a bad thing. I just said its disappointing prize money being cut. The reason is fairly obvious, people want to see top athletes in action and course records broken