Ryan Gosling

WizardofOz

Now that I have attracted your attention with the title of this thread:-) Can I ask 1 simple question.. Is it just me or is Ryan Gosling one of the worst actors ever?Along the lines of Nicolas Cage?? I have watched alot of his films in the hope of finding something worthwhile but the only thing I liked him in was that film "Go" or "Now" or whatever it was called. The reason he was good in this film was that he had nothing to say, no lines..... He is being touted as the next big star.. in comparison to the most recent comparison which might be Leonardo Di Caprio(I also hated Leonardo di Caprio until I saw him in The Basketball Diaries or Shutter Island,his performance alone was the only interesting part of that film) or my new found respect for the film the Departed ( another stand out performance by DiCaprio).

But Gosling has yet to star/feature in anything worth watching or even of notable content.. I just find him very dull to watch and cannot understand why every 2nd film in the cinema seems to have him as the main actor..He is boring at best and I fear he may actually be retarded as an actor... One decent film does not make a great actor, and at best he is clinging to the notority associated with that same film... like a rat might cling to a piece of floating debris.. At least Di Caprio demonstrated his acting ability, perhaps Gosling should go back to whatever kids program he came from.....

Rothko

I'm not sure what you're talking about. I think he's a very good actor. I loved Drive and The Believer.

SusieBlue

I think he's brilliant too. My favourite film of his is The Notebook, in which I think he portrayed his character fabulously. Then again, I'm a sucker for a love story :pac: He's one of my favourite actors

JustAThought

Drive being the classic example - being good looking will only entertain for so long on the silver screen. His mesmerising ability to hold an audience while having so little dialogue is testament to his stage presence & ability to act.

Notebook - well voice AND action there - no complaints here!!!

krudler

I like him myself, Drive was brilliant, he was great in Blue Valentine, Half Nelson and The Ides of March as well.

Kylo Ren

If you're only experience with him is the notebook, which I've never seen , or drive you might think that.

Watch half nelson and blue valentine.

delbertgrady

Nobody's even mentioned Lars and the Real Girl yet: he's superb in that.

Miguel_Sanchez

Go watch more of his films. It sounds to me like you've not seen the range of roles he's had at all.

plus one to 'Lars and the real girl' amazing acting, and what about ' murder by numbers'? just cos hes pretty dont mean the man cant act, he didnt get an oscar nod for nothing

kwestfan08

I think he's a fabulous actor. Drive was one of my favourite films of the last number of years. It's amazing now magnetic he was in it without having a lot if dialog, you never wanted to take your eyes if him.

I thought he was good in Fracture too. Love a courtroom based drama so it was right up my street

BGozIE

Drive is a very very good film, bit of a cult classic. I think he is a very good actor, I think a lot of the films he is in are very good also.

PS Very good!!

Cartman78

WizardofOz wrote: »

....He is boring at best and I fear he may actually be retarded as an actor... One decent film does not make a great actor, and at best he is clinging to the notority associated with that same film... like a rat might cling to a piece of floating debris.. .....

wtf is that supposed to mean

Fair enough you don't rate him as an actor but that's a really unfortunate choice of words you've used there imho

grames_bond

He was great in Place beyond the pines - I think he does have a very good range!

Me thinks you need to see him in more movies!

Andersonisgod

Ridiculous. Gosling's mesmerising performance in Drive in a hugely challenging role is one of the great performances to reach the big screen in the 21st century. The Ides of March, Blue Valentine, Half Nelson, Crazy Stupid Love, all great yet different performances. Arguably the finest leading man in the world right now.

krudler

It'd be easy for him to take romantic movie leads ala The Notebook or Crazy Stupid Love (which I quite enjoyed, not the Notebook though, fcuk that movie) but he's taking on stuff that's pretty good and challenging like Blue Valentine, which is one of the most painfully honest looks at relationships you'll ever watch.

Sugarlumps

Me'h he's average, comparable to the cast of Team America.

krudler

Sugarlumps wrote: »

Me'h he's average, comparable to the cast of Team America.

Including Matt Damon?

tunguska

I understand where you're coming from, he has that laconic thing going on and in some films he just seems to be not fully present or something, like hes phoning it in. The Ides of march is a great example, thought he was like a walking monolith in that, just this blank dead-eyed stare. But then he'll do a film like full nelson or Lars & the real girl and hes amazing.
He's the cinematic equivalent of zlatan Ibrahimovic, if he decides hes up for it he's unreal but when he doesnt care hes invisible.

Gorilla Rising

Miguel_Sanchez wrote: »

Go watch more of his films. It sounds to me like you've not seen the range of roles he's had at all.

Really? Because it sounds to me as if the OP hasn't a clue what he's talking about.

JP Liz V1

He was very good also in Murder By Numbers, Fracture and The Believer

Tefral

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

He was very good also in Murder By Numbers, Fracture and The Believer

Fracture is a very good movie and Ryan is good in it. Anthony Hopkins steals every scene in it though

JP Liz V1

cronin_j wrote: »

Fracture is a very good movie and Ryan is good in it. Anthony Hopkins steals every scene in it though

I thought Gosling did well as a match for Hopkins in Fracture

The Notebook really started and defined his career but he was clever in his choice of roles after it

I would have loved to see him as Riddler in one of Nolan's Batman films

Thwip!

delbertgrady wrote: »

Nobody's even mentioned Lars and the Real Girl yet: he's superb in that.

I was worried no-one would mention this

take everything

Thought he did a great job in Drive.
One of my favourite films recently.

Sl!mCharles

Ryan can put on a riveting performance. Any film in which he plays the lead I am usually interested in, and he's made great decisions in recent years, with a nicely varied tapestry of work to show for it.

Andre80Johnson

Loved him the moment I saw this years ago. I didn't think he would go on to have a career that he's having now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYxAqaBnKgQ

kraggy

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Ridiculous. Gosling's mesmerising performance in Drive in a hugely challenging role is one of the great performances to reach the big screen in the 21st century. The Ides of March, Blue Valentine, Half Nelson, Crazy Stupid Love, all great yet different performances. Arguably the finest leading man in the world right now.

Please.

Drive is the most overated film of the last 3 years and to say that Gosling's performance is "one of the great performances to reach the big screen in the 21st century" is just plain ridiculous.

In a whole 13 years of cinema on this planet, THAT was one of the best performances?

Give me strength.

e_e

Wow, somebody loving a film and performance a whole lot more than you. The thought of it! :rolleyes:

Really though that is the most hypnotic lead performance in years. Shame that people think less of it just because it's more wordless and mysterious than most. He says more with a simple glance than a paragraph of dialog could.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxYjFNh_aIA

kraggy

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Ridiculous. Gosling's mesmerising performance in Drive in a hugely challenging role is one of the great performances to reach the big screen in the 21st century. The Ides of March, Blue Valentine, Half Nelson, Crazy Stupid Love, all great yet different performances. Arguably the finest leading man in the world right now.

Please.

Drive is the most overated film of the last 3 years and to say that Gosling's performance is "one of the great performances to reach the big screen in the 21st century" is just plain ridiculous.

In a whole 13 years of cinema on this planet, THAT was one of the best performances?

Give me strength.

don ramo

kraggy wrote: »

Please.

Drive is the most overated film of the last 3 years and to say that Gosling's performance is "one of the great performances to reach the big screen in the 21st century" is just plain ridiculous.

In a whole 13 years of cinema on this planet, THAT was one of the best performances?

Give me strength.

in your opinion, and repeating yourself doent change others people opinions,

i thought drive was a great film, as did a few of friends, some also didnt like it, to each their own, like i always say there are 7 billion people out there to entertain and that's why thousands of films are made world wide every year so that there's something for everyone,

gosling is more of an indie film actor, hes been working for years doing these low paying jobs and he still is doing it, i think hes happy out having a nice reputation and a solid body of work, sure hes not getting $15million paydays, but hes still worth a small fortune, he could do what tom cruise is doing now and sell out for the fast buck and big paydays, but thankfully hes not, he still making films that people enjoy going to and walk out of the cinema feeling satisfied that they just watched a very good film, i enjoy high octain actions films a lot, but i prefer a good character driven drama even more, and god knows hollywood isnt filling that void,

plenty of films have been mentioned already, granted not all are great films, but people mentioned here a few months ago about actors body of works and seeing this debate now i could see gosling being considered one of the actors with a great body of work in 10 years, if he can stick to what he is doing now, he said hes taking a break from acting, so it will be interesting to see what he does when he goes back to it,

Fysh

Based on Lars & The Real Girl he has at least some range and is a step up from those actors who basically play the same character no matter what film they are in.

On the other hand, I've yet to see an indication that he's anything special. He was alright in The Ides Of March (but that wasn't a particularly demanding role) and he was about as engaging as a wet sponge in Drive (though not quite as useless as Carey Mulligan). But then, I'm one of those who found Drive thoroughly disappointing.

Dermighty

I think he is terrible.

I think Nicholas Cage is excellent, his movies are not excellent but he is. I would suggest anyone who doubts Nicholas Cage as an actor should go and see his movie Bad Lieutenant, no other actor could pull off that performance. Nicholas Cage is very much marmite though, perhaps actors like like Robert Downey Jr (some people find him hilarious, some people dislike him) or Philip Seymour Hoffman (I think he has a great command of the screen when he is acting, some don't) have the same polarising effect, some people can engage with them, some can't. Nicholas Cage is in my top 5 actors!

JP Liz V1

Dermighty wrote: »

I think he is terrible.

I think Nicholas Cage is excellent, his movies are not excellent but he is. I would suggest anyone who doubts Nicholas Cage as an actor should go and see his movie Bad Lieutenant, no other actor could pull off that performance. Nicholas Cage is very much marmite though, perhaps actors like like Robert Downey Jr (some people find him hilarious, some people dislike him) or Philip Seymour Hoffman (I think he has a great command of the screen when he is acting, some don't) have the same polarising effect, some people can engage with them, some can't. Nicholas Cage is in my top 5 actors!

Harvey Keitel :P

I wonder is the dislike for him because he is a pretty boy

don ramo

Dermighty wrote: »

I think he is terrible.

I think Nicholas Cage is excellent, his movies are not excellent but he is. I would suggest anyone who doubts Nicholas Cage as an actor should go and see his movie Bad Lieutenant, no other actor could pull off that performance. Nicholas Cage is very much marmite though, perhaps actors like like Robert Downey Jr (some people find him hilarious, some people dislike him) or Philip Seymour Hoffman (I think he has a great command of the screen when he is acting, some don't) have the same polarising effect, some people can engage with them, some can't. Nicholas Cage is in my top 5 actors!

echoing above, harvey keitel was the star of bad lieutenant, (leading me to believe your just trolling) and i dont consider nicolas cage marmite, actors should picks films that can play the their strengths, not films that sound good, or in nic cages case these days pay well, you wanna pick a good cage film as an example try Lord of War or the rock, his version of bad lieutenant is noting compared to keitels,

i simply call films as i see them, sure some key actors will draw me to a film, but if they fail to deliver i will say it, most actors make their fair share of bad films, and should rightly be called on it, gosling has made bad films already, and as much as i like downey jr, but he made some terrible films, Hoffman is a god, and i find it odd that anyone could dislike him, but as high up as i regard him he also has made bad films, if people want to blindingly praise actors thats their entitlement, i think its idiotic, but thats just me,

out of interest which gosling films have you seen,

Mickeroo

don ramo wrote: »

echoing above, harvey keitel was the star of bad lieutenant, (leading me to believe your just trolling) and i dont consider nicolas cage marmite, actors should picks films that can play the their strengths, not films that sound good, or in nic cages case these days pay well, you wanna pick a good cage film as an example try Lord of War or the rock, his version of bad lieutenant is noting compared to keitels,

i simply call films as i see them, sure some key actors will draw me to a film, but if they fail to deliver i will say it, most actors make their fair share of bad films, and should rightly be called on it, gosling has made bad films already, and as much as i like downey jr, but he made some terrible films, Hoffman is a god, and i find it odd that anyone could dislike him, but as high up as i regard him he also has made bad films, if people want to blindingly praise actors thats their entitlement, i think its idiotic, but thats just me,

out of interest which gosling films have you seen,

They're not trolling, Nicholas cage was in bad lieutenant: port of call new orleans. He was brilliant in it too.

don ramo

Mickeroo wrote: »

They're not trolling, Nicholas cage was in bad lieutenant: port of call new orleans. He was brilliant in it too.

i know that im not an idiot, add whatever the hell you like to the title, it was a remake, and an inferior one at that, my opinion (i think of bad lieutenant, i think harvey keitel, not nic cage), and as much as people may have liked it i just dont think its the best example to prove how good cage is, ive liked many films hes been in, but like i already said i call films as i see them,

Renn

actors should picks films that can play the their strengths, not films that sound good, or in nic cages case these days pay well

Ha yeah, you tell him.

e_e

don ramo wrote: »

i know that im not an idiot, add whatever the hell you like to the title, it was a remake, and an inferior one at that, my opinion (i think of bad lieutenant, i think harvey keitel, not nic cage), and as much as people may have liked it i just dont think its the best example to prove how good cage is, ive liked many films hes been in, but like i already said i call films as i see them,

They were tonally completely different films in fairness. Herzog's is manic and blackly comic, Ferrara's is somber and disturbing.

The only real connection between both of them is the title and that it's about a corrupt cop.

don ramo

e_e wrote: »

They were tonally completely different films in fairness. Herzog's is manic and blackly comic, Ferrara's is somber and disturbing.

The only real connection between both of them is the title and that it's about a corrupt cop.

similarities drawn none the less, and one is clearly superior to the other, if you dont want to draw comparisons dont take others peoples ideas or use other films names,

e_e

Herzog fought against using the same title actually but the studio wanted the name attached to it.

Even having said that a study of a corrupt cop can hardly be owned as one person's original idea can it?

The Barefoot Pizza Thief

He's gormless.

Watchable at times, but gormless by and large.

I think people confuse his lack of acting abilities with good acting, crazy as that may seem but watch a few interviews with him (particularly the Round Table ones) and you'll see that his gormlessness is just part of who he is, it's not an act. He's no deep thinker and ruins more movies than anything.

In The Pines, when he shows up to his ex-girlfriend's place and she is not there and the housekeeper tells him that the child in her arms is actually his after he asks who he is, there was zero emotion shown either on his face, or in his eyes. He didn't even look speechless, he just looked like he knew she was gonna say that and didn't care and I don't believe for a second that that is what his character was feeling as in the next scene he was furious in the cafe at not being told. Course, he had that same gormless expression on his pus all throughout Drive and people seemed to think he's the next Brando.

Keep him, I was chuffed to hear of his planned directing hiatus - long may it last.

Dermighty

Pines was an ok movie but gosling is terrible, as per usual.

Bradley cooper is excellent in most things, definitely one of the better actors around these days!