hmr licence arrived,but

sniperman

hi all.licence arrived to day,am really delighted,but no S for moderator,my question is,do i need an S on the hmr licence to use a mod,or will the S on my 22lr licence cover me?i did fill in the form correct,i made a point of ticking the silencer box,as i knew i would be wanting a mod for the hmr,im a bit disappointed with the S not on the licence,does that now mean i cannot use a mod on the hmr?

juice1304

Yes you need an s for the mod on the hmr licence if you want to use one on it, I would give them a ring and ask if it was granted etc.. Did you write a letter outlining why you wanted it? It may have just been overlooked.

tomtucker81

You need the s on the licence relating to the hmr to be able to use the moderator on the hmr. The s on the 22 licence solely allows its use on the 22. I recently and finally got my s added on for my 22wmr. I wrote a letter with plenty of reasons for needing one, and dropped it in. I got the new licence about two weeks later and purchased the moderator!! Big difference.

sniperman

juice1304 wrote: »

Yes you need an s for the mod on the hmr licence if you want to use one on it, I would give them a ring and ask if it was granted etc.. Did you write a letter outlining why you wanted it? It may have just been overlooked.

hi,yes i hand wrote a 2 page letter,outlining why i wanted the hmr and the 22,and why i wanted the moderators,pointed out the rifle came factory threaded for a mod,don't understand it:mad:

Vegeta

Yes a pain the ass but very easily remedied. 5 minute phone call tops

Call your Firearms Officer, explain to him that you had applied for the use of a silencer but the license came without the required "S".

Ask politely if there is approval on the pulse system but is there a chance the license was misprinted.

Explain how you have previous approval for the .22lr so thought there would be problem this time around.

You'll find out if you do indeed have approval and the license was misprinted (takes a few button pushes to re-print the license).
OR
They simply forgot to process that part of your application
OR
Your application for a silencer was turned down on the .17HMR

If it was turned down, explain your disappointment and ask what would be required of you to get approved like you did for the .22lr.

When my licenses came out there was no S on them so I had to re-submit the paper work a second time, meet with the Super and it came through fine then, no problem at all.

tomtucker81

This is a sample letter from a different thread I had a few months ago, it was posted by another person as an idea what to say.
There is an idea amongst people that a silencer isn't needed as it is only something that would be used by someone trying to hide their presence or disguise their intentions.

Make sure to state that the 'silencer' doesn't silence the rifle, rather reduces the decibel level to a safe level.
just as a matter of interest, has the superintendent changed since your last application or the 22? Some are ok about this issue, others just won't grant them.
Anyway, here's the letter I received and basically used.

To whom it may concern,
I, Xxxxxxx of the above address, wish to apply for permission to hold and use a sound suppressor on my rifle which bears the serial number xxxxxxx, and pertains to firearms certificate number xxxxx, due to the following reasons:

1. I suffer from damaged hearing in my left ear. This was discovered during a routine medical carried out in my job. In order to avoid further damage to my hearing a sound suppressor would be extremely beneficial to me. I have attached a note from my company doctor stating that I have noise induced hearing loss, along with a recent audiograph.

2. To prevent hearing damage to me and others. To be aware of what and who is around me when hunting in the “field” and to be able to hear people giving me instructions and warnings, hearing protection is not feasible under these conditions.

3. Improved accuracy of bullet placement on animals, thereby providing a humane kill.

4. To reduce the noise pollution to the public and wildlife in the area if they are within hearing distance of shots being fired as I have shooting permission on lands where this possibly could happen. On occasion the night shooting of vermin is needed and the use of a sound suppressor will reduce the noise pollution to the public.

5. I have permission to shoot on lands for the control of vermin and deer where livestock and horses are kept. The sound of a non sound suppressed firearm being fired may startle and frighten the livestock, which could result in loss and death of unborn animals.

I hope I have outlined the reasons why I require a sound suppressor for my rifle and hope you will look favourably on my application. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me.
Yours Faithfully,

Xxxxxxxxx

garv123

tomtucker81 wrote: »

This is a sample letter from a different thread I had a few months ago, it was posted by another person as an idea what to say.
There is an idea amongst people that a silencer isn't needed as it is only something that would be used by someone trying to hide their presence or disguise their intentions.

Make sure to state that the 'silencer' doesn't silence the rifle, rather reduces the decibel level to a safe level.
just as a matter of interest, has the superintendent changed since your last application or the 22? Some are ok about this issue, others just won't grant them.
Anyway, here's the letter I received and basically used.

To whom it may concern,
I, Xxxxxxx of the above address, wish to apply for permission to hold and use a sound suppressor on my rifle which bears the serial number xxxxxxx, and pertains to firearms certificate number xxxxx, due to the following reasons:

1. I suffer from damaged hearing in my left ear. This was discovered during a routine medical carried out in my job. In order to avoid further damage to my hearing a sound suppressor would be extremely beneficial to me. I have attached a note from my company doctor stating that I have noise induced hearing loss, along with a recent audiograph.

2. To prevent hearing damage to me and others. To be aware of what and who is around me when hunting in the “field” and to be able to hear people giving me instructions and warnings, hearing protection is not feasible under these conditions.

3. Improved accuracy of bullet placement on animals, thereby providing a humane kill.

4. To reduce the noise pollution to the public and wildlife in the area if they are within hearing distance of shots being fired as I have shooting permission on lands where this possibly could happen. On occasion the night shooting of vermin is needed and the use of a sound suppressor will reduce the noise pollution to the public.

5. I have permission to shoot on lands for the control of vermin and deer where livestock and horses are kept. The sound of a non sound suppressed firearm being fired may startle and frighten the livestock, which could result in loss and death of unborn animals.

I hope I have outlined the reasons why I require a sound suppressor for my rifle and hope you will look favourably on my application. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me.
Yours Faithfully,

Xxxxxxxxx

I wouldn't put so many X's at the end of it.. The super might be getting a bit worried... :P

tomtucker81

How about xoxoxoxo?
By the way your reply time was measured in thousandths of a second!!

sniperman

thanks all for your help and advice,ill get to the bottom of it soon.

juice1304

If you really want it and were to challenge him in court he would have a good time trying to convey why you can be trusted and safe with one on a .22, Which you can use subsonic ammo for which would make it far more quiet than a .17hmr where all rounds are super sonic. I would say you would win hands down.:)

sniperman

juice1304 wrote: »

If you really want it and were to challenge him in court he would have a good time trying to convey why you can be trusted and safe with one on a .22, Which you can use subsonic ammo for which would make it far more quiet than a .17hmr where all rounds are super sonic. I would say you would win hands down.:)

hi thanks for reply.i would rather live without it than go to court,i will just write him a very carefully worded letter,and appeal to his better nature,and ask for a reason why it was not granted,maybe,like one lad said above,it was possible it could have been over looked:(

tomtucker81

Yeah I was thinking that last night, bringing a superintendent to court should be a last resort. Phone call, a meeting, a letter should all be first.also bear in mind if this particular superintendent does not want to licence a moderator, well, superintendents come and go. You could have a new superintendent very shortly, especially as most are now eligible for retirement so there will be a shuffle on within the year I'd imagine

sniperman

tomtucker81 wrote: »

Yeah I was thinking that last night, bringing a superintendent to court should be a last resort. Phone call, a meeting, a letter should all be first.also bear in mind if this particular superintendent does not want to licence a moderator, well, superintendents come and go. You could have a new superintendent very shortly, especially as most are now eligible for retirement so there will be a shuffle on within the year I'd imagine

hi,yes i could wait for him to be replaced,or in the meantime just use my .22 sak on it,i know im taking a big risk,but i have never met a guard out in the field,plus i don't want to go deaf,and after paying that much very hard earned cash for this toy,i at least want to enjoy it for what ever bit of summer we get,anyhow i dont see what the big deal is about not giving me the mod,as there is still a loud crack off the hmr,that can be heard a long way off,so i cant really be a silent assassin:P

Vegeta

mod hat on: sniperman talking about breaking the law on a public forum is not a good idea and is against the charter so lets keep away from that line of discussion. mod hat off

Just ring the fire arms officer, don't bother with a letter until you find out why the S was not on it. A 2 minute phone conversation may well clear all this up and will be cheaper than the price of a stamp.

sniperman

Vegeta wrote: »

mod hat on: sniperman talking about breaking the law on a public forum is not a good idea and is against the charter so lets keep away from that line of discussion. mod hat off

Just ring the fire arms officer, don't bother with a letter until you find out why the S was not on it. A 2 minute phone conversation may well clear all this up and will be cheaper than the price of a stamp.

,hi dont want to step on anyone's toes,or break any laws,like i said ill get to the bottom of it soon,thanks all for replies

sniperman

hi all just a follow up on my post,i wrote a letter last week outlining reason for wanting the hmr mod,got a phone call today form super,said a reprint of licence has been ordered,and should have licence with S on it within 2 weeks,im delighted,so roll on long summer days,thanks all for help/advice.

wexfordman2

sniperman wrote: »

hi all just a follow up on my post,i wrote a letter last week outlining reason for wanting the hmr mod,got a phone call today form super,said a reprint of licence has been ordered,and should have licence with S on it within 2 weeks,im delighted,so roll on long summer days,thanks all for help/advice.

Well done sniperman, good to see the super was a reasonable chap as well.