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1990 Sierra Sapphire 2.0L GLX Saloon

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  • 18-04-2013 11:52am
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    kaizersoze
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    Would a 1990 Sierra Sapphire 2.0L GLX Saloon be classed/considered a classic or vintage car?
    More importantly, would it be classed as such for tax/insurance/nct purposes?
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    skyhighflyer
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    tax - no

    insurance - potentially

    NCT - no


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    macplaxton
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    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055355494


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    kaizersoze
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    Ta. What is the criteria for cars to be qualify for reduced tax would you know?
    Does it just go by age?


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    kaizersoze
    Registered Users Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    macplaxton wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055355494

    What's your point mac?:P:D


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    macplaxton
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    You know ;):p

    Although it needs a wee update.


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    kaizersoze
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    macplaxton wrote: »
    You know ;):p

    Although it needs a wee update.

    Yeah. I read through most of that but lots of old info.
    And besides....I'm a lazy b*sta*d.....:pac:


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    Mr Benevolent
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    kaizersoze wrote: »
    Yeah. I read through most of that but lots of old info.
    And besides....I'm a lazy b*sta*d.....:pac:

    30 years old for classic tax, pre 1980 for no NCT.


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    corktina
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    i had the Sierra 1990 I had a couple of years ago on classic insurance with AXA no problem


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    kaizersoze
    Registered Users Posts: 7,042 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    corktina wrote: »
    i had the Sierra 1990 I had a couple of years ago on classic insurance with AXA no problem

    Thanks. Good to know. I deal with AXA all the time.
    What kind of money was the insurance btw?

    The tax is painful though especially when I wouldn't be using it as a daily driver.


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    corktina
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    i had three cars insured for maybe €300 odd, can't really recall.

    I found Axa good btw.


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    Capri
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    kaizersoze wrote: »
    Thanks. Good to know. I deal with AXA all the time.
    What kind of money was the insurance btw?

    The tax is painful though especially when I wouldn't be using it as a daily driver.

    Re the tax - you COULD look at Ford's range of engines and find a 1.3/1.4 out of an old Escort/orion that would mate up to your transmission, and then you just get a garage report tio certify the new engine is 1.3/1.4 and your tax will be reduced :).
    Go onto some of the Ford forums for further info. (Sure there's even a new Focus 1.0 with power out now )
    I had a 1.4 Escort company runabout and it was a little flyer ;)


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    corktina
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    nah, pay the tax...€ 200 a quarter worth it to have a 2 litre...mine was a 1.6 and it was slowwww


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    Capri
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    corktina wrote: »
    nah, pay the tax...€ 200 a quarter worth it to have a 2 litre...mine was a 1.6 and it was slowwww

    MAYBE the 1.6 OHC was slow, but the Zetec or CVH might be different kettles of fish power/torque wise :confused:


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    corktina
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    Capri wrote: »
    MAYBE the 1.6 OHC was slow, but the Zetec or CVH might be different kettles of fish power/torque wise :confused:

    yes but a 1.6 OHC would be much the same as a 1.3/1.4...and they would be slow compared to a 2 litre...


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    ianobrien
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    Capri wrote: »
    MAYBE the 1.6 OHC was slow, but the Zetec or CVH might be different kettles of fish power/torque wise :confused:

    The 1.8 CVH in the Sierra was almost as bad as the 1.6 Pinto.

    OP, I'm assuming that the engine is the I4 8 valve unit, rather than a Pinto. If it is, leave it alone as it's a nice torquey unit. You can also consider a head swap from the I4 16 valve found in Mk5 RS2000, bug-eye Granada and such.

    I you're insisting on swapping engines, remember that the 1.8 & 2.0 Zetec engine is based on the CVH so find a CVH Sierra for engine mounts, sump, etc. I'm not too sure if the 1.4 & 1.6 Zetec is based on a CVH or how hard it is to fit as it's not a common swap.


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    kaizersoze
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    ianobrien wrote: »
    The 1.8 CVH in the Sierra was almost as bad as the 1.6 Pinto.

    OP, I'm assuming that the engine is the I4 8 valve unit, rather than a Pinto. If it is, leave it alone as it's a nice torquey unit. You can also consider a head swap from the I4 16 valve found in Mk5 RS2000, bug-eye Granada and such.

    I you're insisting on swapping engines, remember that the 1.8 & 2.0 Zetec engine is based on the CVH so find a CVH Sierra for engine mounts, sump, etc. I'm not too sure if the 1.4 & 1.6 Zetec is based on a CVH or how hard it is to fit as it's not a common swap.

    Not sure what variety of 2.0L is in it tbh.
    I Won't be downgrading it in any case but the RS2000 head swap sounds inteesting though....tell me more.:)


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    ianobrien
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    kaizersoze wrote: »
    Not sure what variety of 2.0L is in it tbh.
    I Won't be downgrading it in any case but the RS2000 head swap sounds inteesting though....tell me more.:)

    A useful link (and can be a hazard to one's credit card)

    http://www.burtonpower.com/tuning-guides/tuning-guide-pages/ford-dohc-i4-sierra-tuning-guide.html


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    Capri
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    There's a 2.0 Twin cam engine - http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/carparts/4784605

    And the different types / power in 4 cyl Fords

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_engines#4_cylinder


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