Someone has hacked our phones!!

christymac

For the past 8/10 months, my girlfriend have been getting messages for each other, except we did not send them, if you catch my drift.

Someone has hacked into our phones, and can see all our messages, and is able to withhold messages that my girlfriend actually sends to me. They know when i call her and can stop me calling her.

The messages have started to get abusive so thats why im seeking help. Its someone thats knows us both and they are in the same college as me!

does anyone have any ideas on how to find out who it is? or indeed stop it!

Thanks!

Sad Professor

Both of you need to change your Apple ID passwords.

https://appleid.apple.com/ie/

You should also check what email addresses are associated with both Apple IDs and make sure you have access to those accounts. Change the passwords on all of them as well.

brophs

I'm not sure I understand.

Firstly, getting messages from each other sounds like someone is sending you iMessages from another device?

But how are they withholding messages/blocking calls? How do you know? What happens when, for example, you try to call her and they block it?

brophs

I had a quick look and I suspect what happened is that either you and your g/f are using the same address, or someone has synced their phone with your Apple ID. Have either of you setup/allowed someone to setup their iPhone/iTunes using your Apple ID? Someone in the same house, possibly?

EDIT: Also, on your iPhone, go to Settings > Messages > Send and Receive At > and see is anything other than your number listed there.

EDIT: And by any chance are these calls Facetime calls?

christymac

When i Call her, they hang up they call, i get the sound i would get if someone hung up on me without answering, then they text me saying that they wont allow me to call her.

Yes my girlfriend let her mate use her apple id!! and she is also the one i suspected of doing it. Have we found the culprit?

Dudda

Why would you wait over half a year to do something about this? You should act instantly on something like this.


Apple have enabled two step verification login on their accounts. Google it, change your password, enable two step verification and use it.

enda1

Not sure this will work, but...

1. Change your apple id password
2. Set up find my iphone
3. Locate the suspicious device
4. Wipe the device remotely through find my iphone

That'll learn them

brophs

christymac wrote: »

When i Call her, they hang up they call, i get the sound i would get if someone hung up on me without answering, then they text me saying that they wont allow me to call her.

Yes my girlfriend let her mate use her apple id!! and she is also the one i suspected of doing it. Have we found the culprit?

Yep. What's happening is that the calls and messages are going to both phones, I suspect. Which allows her to hang up/text you. Your g/f needs to boot her off her Apple ID. And probably get another friend that isn't a complete dickend.

christymac

Thanks for your help guys. One thing though, will changing my Apple id wipe my phone of pictures and numbers and stuff?

I didnt wait a year, we only recently found out it was a third party, which led to many rows between us. Which is probably what the bitch wanted!

Sad Professor

christymac wrote: »

When i Call her, they hang up they call, i get the sound i would get if someone hung up on me without answering, then they text me saying that they wont allow me to call her.

I don't see how this is possible.

enda1

Sad Professor wrote: »

I don't see how this is possible.

Only if its facetime or skype could it be true. Regular call, not possible I agree.

brophs

christymac wrote: »

Thanks for your help guys. One thing though, will changing my Apple id wipe my phone of pictures and numbers and stuff?

I didnt wait a year, we only recently found out it was a third party, which led to many rows between us. Which is probably what the bitch wanted!

You shouldn't need to change your Apple ID, unless you and your g/f use the same Apple ID and she then allowed her friend to also use it. If your Apple ID is, for example, christy@gmail.com and your girlfriend's is lisa@gmail.com, and your g/f has shared her ID with her friend, then the only phone/account that has been compromised, so to speak, is your girlfriend's. She should not be able to send messages from your number, or cancel calls which are incoming to you. She should only be able to send messages from your g/f's number, possible make facetime calls to you using your g/f's number and read any messages sent from you (or anyone using iMessage) to your g/f

Genuinely, though, this sounds like an enormous invasion of privacy. Using your g/f's Apple ID should be the least of her worries after this.

dilallio

This is an awful invasion of privacy, and she has broken the law by intercepting your texts.

I would complain to the Gardai, or at least let her know that you're having issues and the Gardai are investigating it.

According to the 1983 Postal and Telecommunications Services Act,

98.—(1) A person who—

(a) intercepts or attempts to intercept, or

(b) authorises, suffers or permits another person to intercept, or

(c) does anything that will enable him or another person to intercept,

telecommunications messages being transmitted by the company or who discloses the existence, substance or purport of any such message which has been intercepted or uses for any purpose any information obtained from any such message shall be guilty of an offence.

(2) Subsection (1) shall not apply to any person who is acting—

(a) (i) for the purpose of an investigation by a member of the Garda Síochána of a suspected offence under section 13 of the Post Office (Amendment) Act, 1951 (which refers to telecommunications messages of an obscene, menacing or similar character) on the complaint of a person claiming to have received such a message, or

(ii) in pursuance of a direction issued by the Minister under section 110 , or

(iii) under other lawful authority, or

(b) in the course of and to the extent required by his operating duties or duties for or in connection with the installation or maintenance of a line, apparatus or equipment for the transmission of telecommunications messages by the company.

(3) (a) The company may, with the consent of the Minister, make regulations to carry out the intentions of this section in so far as concerns members of its staff.

(b) The Minister, after consultation with the company, may direct the company to make regulations under paragraph (a) or to amend or revoke regulations made under that paragraph and the company shall comply with that direction.

(c) A person who contravenes any regulation under this subsection shall be guilty of an offence.

(4) (a) The Minister may make regulations prohibiting the provision or operation of overhearing facilities in relation to any apparatus (including private branch telephone exchanges) connected to the network of the company otherwise than in accordance with such conditions as he considers to be reasonable and prescribes in the regulations.

(b) A person who contravenes any regulation under this subsection shall be guilty of an offence.

(5) In this section, “interception” means listening to, or recording by any means, or acquiring the substance or purport of, any telecommunications message without the agreement of the person on whose behalf that message is transmitted by the company and of the person intended by him to receive that message.

dodzy

dilallio wrote: »

I would complain to the Gardai, or at least let her know that you're having issues and the Gardai are investigating

Don't be ridiculous. Gardai intervention is hardly warranted here.

@OP. as has been said: seperate email addresses, password changes and no account sharing.

miralize

I didn't understand a single word of this thread

Lord Nikon

For the moment, you should turn off iMessage on both your GF's and your iPhone. At least this way, the messages will go direct to her phone number.

I have 3 iphones which all have the same Apple IDs, so anytime i get a message or email or notification, they show up on all 3 phones.

If your GF gave her AppleID and password to a friend, she pretty much ALL ACCESS to everything on your GFs phone.

lordgoat

Sad Professor wrote: »

I don't see how this is possible.

Unless it was FaceTime to the apple id? Even then I'm not sure how it works.

Unlesss someone has cloned your phone csi style.

dodzy

miralize wrote: »

I didn't understand a single word of this thread

Yeah, initially, i thought it read "For the past 8/10 months, my girlfriends have been getting messages from each other".

My initial reaction was "Problem....wheres the problem !" STUD.

Then I realized my error & I lost interest rapidly.

mitosis

lordgoat wrote: »

Unless it was FaceTime to the apple id? Even then I'm not sure how it works.

Unlesss someone has cloned your phone csi style.

Or the girlfriend is schizo and one personality doesn't know what the other is doing................

Dades

Can't the OP just change the password to their Apple ID?

Rasmus

Restore both phones to factory settings? Or if you don't understand how the iphone works, bring it into the place you bought it and explain it to them. I don't actually agree with not filing a complaint to the Gardai but you don't actually know who it is.
If you can get any proof then I would consider this measure, as if someone is this crazy (the culprit) who knows how far they would take the harressment - they've already shown their long-term dedication to the cause.

3rdDegree

your girlfriend's friend sounds like a bit of a bunny-boiler to me. Is she single, attractive, available?


BTW I agree with the above post. Just change the password on both your Apple id's. That should do it.

brophs

Dades wrote: »

Can't the OP just change the password to their Apple ID?

My understanding is that, since iOS6, that will require the password to be updated on the third party's device, which means they won't have access to their messages any more. That's one part sorted.

But I don't think it stops them using Facetime. She could still cancel Facetime calls if I'm right.

Sad Professor

Another possibility: someone hacked into the OP's iCloud account and changed his girlfriend's contact details to their own.

It makes more sense than them intercepting their calls/texts.

brophs

Sad Professor wrote: »

Another possibility: someone hacked into the OP's iCloud account and changed his girlfriend's contact details to their own.

It makes more sense than them intercepting their calls/texts.

Unless I've picked him up wrong, his g/f is getting the texts (as is this third party) and the calls (which I'm guessing are Facetime calls) are being rejected/cancelled before she can answer. I'd guess if his girlfriend answers first then the calls go through (though I don't know if the third party can cancel them at that stage).

mad muffin

This sounds like a whole lota BS to me...but thats just me...

Herrick

mad muffin wrote: »

This sounds like a whole lota BS to me...but thats just me...

May I ask why out of curiosity? His gf let her friend use her Apple ID so what he's describing is possible after a bit of Googling...

OP out of interest though has this ever happened when your both together? Like have you both tried testing it in the same room and you receive one of these texts so you can be 100% its not your gf messing you about...

mad muffin

Herrick wrote: »

May I ask why out of curiosity? His gf let her friend use her Apple ID so what he's describing is possible after a bit of Googling...

OP out of interest though has this ever happened when your both together? Like have you both tried testing it in the same room and you receive one of these texts so you can be 100% its not your gf messing you about...

Phone calls intercepted? What is this, National Treasure 2?

And the whole OP reads like he typed it out with his toes.

guil

Rasmus wrote: »

Restore both phones to factory settings? Or if you don't understand how the iphone works, bring it into the place you bought it and explain it to them. I don't actually agree with not filing a complaint to the Gardai but you don't actually know who it is.
If you can get any proof then I would consider this measure, as if someone is this crazy (the culprit) who knows how far they would take the harressment - they've already shown their long-term dedication to the cause.

Sorry but what good do you think restoring is going to do?

Like someone else mentioned I would definitely sign into iCloud and see if another device is active and lock it with a password and play a tone for a day or two and then wipe the phone

Herrick

mad muffin wrote: »

Phone calls intercepted? What is this, National Treasure 2?

And the whole OP reads like he typed it out with his toes.

Yeah but I was under the impression if two devices were using the same Apple ID that incoming calls and texts come through on both. So if the gf and her friend are using the same ID they would come through on both.

guil

Herrick wrote: »

Yeah but I was under the impression if two devices were using the same Apple ID that incoming calls and texts come through on both. So if the gf and her friend are using the same ID they would come through on both.

Cellular or mobile calls and texts have nothing to do with iCloud/iMessage or apple id. Only FaceTime or imessage

Herrick

guil wrote: »

Cellular or mobile calls and texts have nothing to do with iCloud/iMessage or apple id. Only FaceTime or imessage

Ah ok cool thanks wasn't totally sure if it covered all messages and calls or not

mad muffin

Herrick wrote: »

Yeah but I was under the impression if two devices were using the same Apple ID that incoming calls and texts come through on both. So if the gf and her friend are using the same ID they would come through on both.

The only thing that can happen regards to texts and calls if three phones have the same Apple ID is that the iMessage would appear on all phones.

Or if the girlfriend and the so called hacker have the same ID then then the iMessage would appear on both phones and the "hacker" can send iMessages with the girlfriends ID.

Not 100% sure what happens with FaceTime. I know you can't make FaceTime calls to the same Apple ID. So you can't call from your phone to your iPad if they have the same I'd. Fr me it comes up as missed call straight away.

As for intercepting and blocking normal calls and text. Not possible unless they cloned the SIM card.

Gordon

mad muffin wrote: »

I know you can't make FaceTime calls to the same Apple ID. So you can't call from your phone to your iPad if they have the same I'd.

I can call my iPhone from my iPad on the same apple ID, haven't checked the other way round. It's definitely facetime as I have the wifi iPad, not 3G.

Sad Professor

FaceTimes calls aren't made to Apple IDs as such, they are made to email addresses/phone numbers associated with Apple IDs. So, yes, it's possible to make a FaceTime call to a device logged in with the same ID, provided it's not to the same email address/phone number. Otherwise it will come up as a missed call as mad muffin said.

So if I make a FaceTime call from my Mac (using my email address as the Caller ID) to my phone number - it will work. But if I make a call to myself using my phone number as the caller ID, the call will fail and my phone will show a missed call.

In other words, what Herrick described above: FaceTime calls coming through on multiple devices at the same time - making it possible for someone to cancel a call from another device - isn't possible. With iMessage, yes, but not FaceTime.

Gorilla Rising

mad muffin wrote: »

Phone calls intercepted? What is this, National Treasure 2.

I'd have gone with '24'!

mad muffin

fortune wookiee wrote: »

I'd have gone with '24'!

lol

Queen-Mise

dodzy wrote: »

Don't be ridiculous. Gardai intervention is hardly warranted here.

In a chat and telling them about what is happening I'd tell the person you suspect that you went to the guards and reported it and quote the law that was stated above.

Hopefully it might frighten the life out of them and they would stop this sh*te.