1999 Corolla - ABS as standard?

Leonard Hofstadter

Just wondering, does anyone know if an Irish spec 1999 Corolla Terra has ABS as standard, or was it only the Luna and G6 models?

There was a spec change in 1999 when they fitted a rev counter and electric front windows to the Terra model. I don't think when that shape Corolla came out at the end of 1997 that any model had ABS, but I know all facelifted models (which came out in early 2000) are fitted with ABS, even the Paddy spec ones.

I can't find anything online which either confirms or denies the fitment of ABS as standard.

Thanks in advance.

kiddums

I have a 98 Terra and It doesn't have ABS. So I would assume that is wasn't standard on that model at all.

I can't say for sure about the spec change in 99 though.

Are you looking to get one?

MuppetCheck

I believe the 99 on model year got it, the bug eyed model with the colour coded rubbing strips.

joujoujou

VIN would unveil the secret.

JohnBoy26

captainspeed wrote: »

Just wondering, does anyone know if an Irish spec 1999 Corolla Terra has ABS as standard, or was it only the Luna and G6 models?

There was a spec change in 1999 when they fitted a rev counter and electric front windows to the Terra model. I don't think when that shape Corolla came out at the end of 1997 that any model had ABS, but I know all facelifted models (which came out in early 2000) are fitted with ABS, even the Paddy spec ones.

I can't find anything online which either confirms or denies the fitment of ABS as standard.

Thanks in advance.

All Irish models from 99 on including the Terra spec cars got it. Any 99 Irish model with the colour coded bumpers, electric windows, rev clock and revised interior has ABS.

It was an option on the G6 from launch in 1997. Some had it and some didn't.

JohnBoy26

kiddums wrote: »

I have a 98 Terra and It doesn't have ABS. So I would assume that is wasn't standard on that model at all.

I can't say for sure about the spec change in 99 though.

Are you looking to get one?

All terra Corolla's up to 1999 didn't have abs. It was added in 99 to all Irish Corollas.

Other extras the 99 terra model got over the 98 terra model include a rev clock, front electric windows, electric mirrors, brightness control for instrument cluster, different seat material/fabric.

Leonard Hofstadter

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

All Irish models from 99 on including the Terra spec cars got it. Any 99 Irish model with the colour coded bumpers, electric windows, rev clock and revised interior has ABS.

It was an option on the G6 from launch in 1997. Some had it and some didn't.

Thanks for that. Fair play to them for fitting even the Paddy spec cars with it as standard from 99 onwards. ABS wasn't all that common on cars that size in those days - I certainly remember it being an option on Focuses from that era unless you bought a Ghia. I think they may have fitted it after the car got its facelift in 2002, but I don't remember at this stage.

A close relative is going to be learning to drive soon, and has been offered one (with the ultra reliable 4E-FE engine) I didn't fancy them learning in something without ABS, hence my sudden curiosity. Glad to know they will be learning in something with it now .

MAJJ

I have a 00 Corrolla and it has it. On a safe road with no one around brake hard and you feel the ABS kicking in. Mine kicks in very easy and you feel a knocking in the pedal.

dgt

MuppetCheck wrote: »

I believe the 99 on model year got it, the bug eyed model with the colour coded rubbing strips.

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

All Irish models from 99 on including the Terra spec cars got it. Any 99 Irish model with the colour coded bumpers, electric windows, rev clock and revised interior has ABS.

It was an option on the G6 from launch in 1997. Some had it and some didn't.

A close friend of mine had a 00 Corolla 1.4 facelift that didn't have ABS. I know this as I often worked on the car.

The exact spec of the car I haven't a clue.

Only on some specs or did we get a special paddy spec?

JohnBoy26

dgt wrote: »

A close friend of mine had a 00 Corolla 1.4 facelift that didn't have ABS. I know this as I often worked on the car.

The exact spec of the car I haven't a clue.

Only on some specs or did we get a special paddy spec?

If it was an Irish car it certainatly had it. Maybe some low spec uk imports were with out it but all 00 irish models came fitted with abs.

dgt

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

If it was an Irish car it certainatly had it. Maybe some low spec uk imports were with out it but all 00 irish models came fitted with abs.

I'm unsure whether it was an import or not, it had a lowish number for the year but that means nothing when importing at that time

JohnBoy26

dgt wrote: »

I'm unsure whether it was an import or not, it had a lowish number for the year but that means nothing when importing at that time

Was it a hatchback? And was the top half of the bumbers black(non color coded)?

JohnBoy26

captainspeed wrote: »

Thanks for that. Fair play to them for fitting even the Paddy spec cars with it as standard from 99 onwards. ABS wasn't all that common on cars that size in those days - I certainly remember it being an option on Focuses from that era unless you bought a Ghia. I think they may have fitted it after the car got its facelift in 2002, but I don't remember at this stage.

A close relative is going to be learning to drive soon, and has been offered one (with the ultra reliable 4E-FE engine) I didn't fancy them learning in something without ABS, hence my sudden curiosity. Glad to know they will be learning in something with it now .

It really is well worth it going for a 1999 model over the 97-98 cars imo as you get all the great reliabilty and build quality of that model with the nice significant extras mentioned in my above post. The 4e-fe engine is about as reliable as engines come and they are very easy cars to drive. I myself learned to drive and passed my test in one.

dgt

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Was it a hatchback? And was the top half of the bumbers black(non color coded)?

Yes, a hatchback. Blue. Almost identical to this one without the steels, tints, stupid brows and fart cannon.

It had colour coded bumpers too

Leonard Hofstadter

Facelifted ones definitely had ABS for Paddy spec - l had one and it certainly had it. I think S spec cars in the UK weren't fitted with ABS, but even by Irish standards, that spec is p1ss poor.

The Paddy spec cars all had an outside temperature gauge from 99 onwards too. Facelifts got remote locking, body coloured and electric mirrors, chrome interior door pulls and a trip computer - for a basic model they certainly fitted them with plenty of equipment between 2000 and 2002, and not just by Irish standards either.

By the way, I agree with you JohnBoy on the 99 model, it was definitely the best of the lot, as they had a decent amount of equipment (by the standards of 14 years ago) but none of the problems of the VVTis. Also, the VVTi models have the world's worst radio - if there is a VVTi with a working radio, it is almost certainly because the owner changed it for an aftermarket stereo! In saying that, a VVTi that's not burning oil is not going to give a lot of trouble either.

They are an incredibly boring and very uncomfortable car to drive though, plus they are noisy and tiring on a longer journey. The interior is nasty compared to a Focus or especially a Golf. The safety rating isn't great either - a Focus or a Golf is much better.

But it will be perfect for a learner (especially someone going to college and isn't too bothered by cars), as like all Toyotas, all the controls are very light. The car has 180,000 miles, which is nothing on a 4E-FE engine, especially one that I know for a fact has been serviced on time every time for the past 6-7 years.

By the way, are these supposed to be serviced every 6,000 or every 9,000 miles? I know that until at least the mid 90s Toyotas had a 6,000 mile interval, and the VVTis changed this to 9,000 miles, but when exactly did they change?

JohnBoy26

captainspeed wrote: »

Facelifted ones definitely had ABS for Paddy spec - l had one and it certainly had it. I think S spec cars in the UK weren't fitted with ABS, but even by Irish standards, that spec is p1ss poor.

The Paddy spec cars all had an outside temperature gauge from 99 onwards too. Facelifts got remote locking, body coloured and electric mirrors, chrome interior door pulls and a trip computer - for a basic model they certainly fitted them with plenty of equipment between 2000 and 2002, and not just by Irish standards either.

Most cars in the UK are GS, which have air conditioning (and have had it ever since that model Corolla came out at the end of 1997), something I note that even in 2013 is STILL not fitted as standard to either the Paddy spec Auris or the Corolla. GLS models had alloys, sunroof, fogs and rear electric windows on top of all of that, so did SRs and G6Rs, plus some sporty trim like red dials, and even a six speed gearbox, which was very advanced back in those days.

Forgot completely about the temp meter located in by rev clock, on vvti models it's located on the trip computer.

JohnBoy26

dgt wrote: »

Yes, a hatchback. Blue. Almost identical to this one without the steels, tints, stupid brows and fart cannon.

It had colour coded bumpers too

The one in the link has black bumpers and is almost certainly a low spec uk import. Many of these low spec models also had a beige interior as oppose to the black interior commonly found on corollas of this vintage.

The abs in e11 corollas is located down by the windscreen washer bottle behind the right hand side headlight.

colm_mcm

There was also a Corolla E model that nobody bought. That probably didn't have ABS.

dgt

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

The one in the link has black bumpers and is almost certainly a low spec uk import. Many of these low spec models also had a beige interior as oppose to the black interior commonly found on corollas of this vintage.

The abs in e11 corollas is located down by the windscreen washer bottle behind the right hand side headlight.

I can't picture the interior, been a while since he had it... I remember it had elec folding mirrors after he asked me would mirrors off my Impy fit....

Considering the chap stuffed the car into a van and required the front to be repaired (well, bodged), there was no unit there

Bit odd to have the unit there methinks

colm_mcm

If it had electric folding mirrors then it was most likely a Japanese import.

Never seen a jdm version of that model in a 3 door.

JohnBoy26

captainspeed wrote: »

Facelifted ones definitely had ABS for Paddy spec - l had one and it certainly had it. I think S spec cars in the UK weren't fitted with ABS, but even by Irish standards, that spec is p1ss poor.

The Paddy spec cars all had an outside temperature gauge from 99 onwards too. Facelifts got remote locking, body coloured and electric mirrors, chrome interior door pulls and a trip computer - for a basic model they certainly fitted them with plenty of equipment between 2000 and 2002, and not just by Irish standards either.

By the way, I agree with you JohnBoy on the 99 model, it was definitely the best of the lot, as they had a decent amount of equipment (by the standards of 14 years ago) but none of the problems of the VVTis. Also, the VVTi models have the world's worst radio - if there is a VVTi with a working radio, it is almost certainly because the owner changed it for an aftermarket stereo! In saying that, a VVTi that's not burning oil is not going to give a lot of trouble either.

They are an incredibly boring and very uncomfortable car to drive though, plus they are noisy and tiring on a longer journey. The interior is nasty compared to a Focus or especially a Golf. The safety rating isn't great either - a Focus or a Golf is much better.

But it will be perfect for a learner (especially someone going to college and isn't too bothered by cars), as like all Toyotas, all the controls are very light. The car has 180,000 miles, which is nothing on a 4E-FE engine, especially one that I know for a fact has been serviced on time every time for the past 6-7 years.

By the way, are these supposed to be serviced every 6,000 or every 9,000 miles? I know that until at least the mid 90s Toyotas had a 6,000 mile interval, and the VVTis changed this to 9,000 miles, but when exactly did they change?

9,000 mile service intervals is what's on the 4e-fe as well and that was the interval when this model was introduced back in 1997. I however change my oil and filter at 7k miles for piece of mind.

As for the radio mine is working:) but was replaced at a main dealers by the previous owner a good few years back.

As for the interior being nasty and the car being uncomfortable, I have to disagree to an extent. They imo are no worse inside than a focus or golf and are better screwed together than both. eg no annoying rattles in the dash like the golf of that era and the gear knob etc doesn't fall to pieces after 80k miles like that of the Focus of that era.

While I agree that they do get tiring on a journey, a Golf and Focus are even worse on a journey with their weedy underpowered 1.4 engines. The Corolla is very smooth though imo with a nice clutch and gear change and the ride isn't too bad but can get a bit uncomfortable over rough surfaces.