I was cut.

niallo27

I hit 3 pts above scratch last week and was deducted 0.9. The thing is it was pick and place on the fairway and play as you lie in rough. Should I have been deducted with the pick and place.

Sligored

niallo27 wrote: »

I hit 3 pts above scratch last week and was deducted 0.9. The thing is it was pick and place on the fairway and play as you lie in rough. Should I have been deducted with the pick and place.

yes

niallo27

Sligored wrote: »

yes

Thanks for your detailed response.

Rikand

no need for details. play as it lies in the rough is enough for you to be cut. placing on the fairway ? well its the fairway, so you should have a decent lie anyways

Rikand

you sound disappointed to be cut though. I can imagine that not going over too well around here

niallo27

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

you sound disappointed to be cut though. I can imagine that not going over too well around here

No I'm not disappointed at all. My aim is to get to single figures. It's my first full year having a GUI so I wasn't sure. Few people in my society today said I shouldn't have been cut. I was just wondering.

GreeBo

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

no need for details. play as it lies in the rough is enough for you to be cut. placing on the fairway ? well its the fairway, so you should have a decent lie anyways

Even dropping in the rough is ok for it to be a qualifying competition.

Mister Sifter

niallo27 wrote: »

No I'm not disappointed at all. My aim is to get to single figures. It's my first full year having a GUI so I wasn't sure. Few people in my society today said I shouldn't have been cut. I was just wondering.

Asking a society golfer anything about proper golf is a bit like asking the girl at your Tesco checkout whether Tesco's third quarter profits are likely to come in on target.

GreeBo

Mister Sifter wrote: »

Asking a society golfer anything about proper golf is a bit like asking the girl at your Tesco checkout whether Tesco's third quarter profits are likely to come in on target.

I'm in a society (2 in fact), if you have any questions about the game feel free to ask and I will try to put them in as condescending a manner as possible for you to still understand.

(Condescending is when you talk down to someone btw)

mag

GreeBo wrote: »

(Condescending is when you talk down to someone btw)

*irony inversion overload*

Mister Sifter

GreeBo wrote: »

I'm in a society (2 in fact), if you have any questions about the game feel free to ask and I will try to put them in as condescending a manner as possible for you to still understand.

(Condescending is when you talk down to someone btw)

Don't worry, I've seen enough from you on here to ensure that you'd be the last person i'd consider contacting should I ever have a query about golf. Unlikely anyway, i know pretty much it all.

FixdePitchmark

Mister Sifter wrote: »

Don't worry, I've seen enough from you on here to ensure that you'd be the last person i'd consider contacting should I ever have a query about golf. Unlikely anyway, i know pretty much it all.

The way you are going - you could run out of people to contact.

chalkie 501

Welcome back Conno:)

PARlance

GreeBo wrote: »

(Condescending is when you talk down to someone btw)

As per below... Arnie explaining, in a codescending manner (talking down), to DeVito on just how far away Woods was from his previous shot drop at Augusta

Whyner

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

The way you are going - you could run out of people to contact.

Big time.

Imagine coming onto a golf forum only to poke your grumpy head up to antagonise others

It's ok to have the odd off day. Take your tampon out

Almaviva

Placing in the rough is what makes a comp non qualifying.

But even then you could still be cut - general play.

John Divney

Good scoring.

Are you saying it's a bit self delusional to enjoy the cut , or that it's harsh for sake of competition. Were the tees forward?

Getting down to single digits means not giving caring about winning, you aren't going to much.

The reason golf to me is so amazing is there are no hiding places, it's the pinnacle of self improvement. (If you play the rules)

Mister Sifter

Whyner wrote: »

Imagine coming onto a golf forum only to poke your grumpy head up to antagonise others

Mister Sifter

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

The way you are going - you could run out of people to contact.

Should you really be typing with your bad elbow?

curly from cork

GreeBo wrote: »

Even dropping in the rough is ok for it to be a qualifying competition.

Are you sure about this one GreeBo ? I thought once you touched your ball in the rough it wasn't qualifying

PARlance

Quick Q, hope its not a stupid one but I have a feeling it is.

If HC is based on CSS, then why have qualifying & non qualifying?
Couldn't it be qualifying all year round, same conditions and rules for everyone etc

(Thinking as typing....is it because lift, clean & place is seen to favour the higher handicapper? )

Maclock

curly from cork wrote: »

Are you sure about this one GreeBo ? I thought once you touched your ball in the rough it wasn't qualifying

That's right, well in our club it is anyway. Any time we have, lift clean and drop in the rough (which has been the case almost every week since last summer) it's a non qualifying competition.

Rikand

our handicap secretary says the same thing, if you can touch the ball in the rough, it cant be counting.

GreeBo

Maclock wrote: »

That's right, well in our club it is anyway. Any time we have, lift clean and drop in the rough (which has been the case almost every week since last summer) it's a non qualifying competition.

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

our handicap secretary says the same thing, if you can touch the ball in the rough, it cant be counting.

It does look that way alright, but I'm positive (or at least was positive!) that I've played qualifying comps with lift,clean,drop in play.

From CONGU and R&A it would seem that its not however as the rule of golf specifically mentions "closely mown areas".

Preferred Lies
The wording for the introduction of Preferred Lies is given in the Rules of Golf Appendix 1 Part B 4c.
Competition Playing Conditions will apply and Qualifying Competitions can be held during a preferred
lie period if the conditions set out in Clause 15 of the CONGU® UHS have been met.
• The wording of the Local Rule must be in accordance with the Specimen Local Rule and the
specified area must be within 6 inches (150mm).
• For the use of preferred lies during the period from 1 May to 30 September inclusive to
enable Competition Play Conditions to apply, permission must be first be obtained as
appropriate, from:
- SGU Area Secretary, whom failing the SGU offices
- SLGA National Course Rating Assessor, whom failing the SLGA offices
This permission must be obtained prior to any competition for handicapping purposes
commencing.
• During the “Preferred Lie period” from 1 October to 30 April inclusive permission for
preferred lies for Qualifying Competitions is not necessary.
• Preferred lies may be applied on all closely mown areas or may be restricted to parts of the
course where specific difficulties occur.

c. “Preferred Lies” and “Winter Rules”
Ground under repair is provided for in Rule 25 and occasional local abnormal conditions that might interfere with fair play and are not widespread should be defined as ground under repair.
However, adverse conditions, such as heavy snows, spring thaws, prolonged rains or extreme heat can make fairways unsatisfactory and sometimes prevent use of heavy mowing equipment. When such conditions are so general throughout a course that the Committee believes “preferred lies” or “winter rules” would promote fair play or help protect the course, the following Local Rule is recommended:

“A ball lying on a closely-mown area through the green (or specify a more restricted area, e.g. at the 6th hole) may be lifted, without penalty, and cleaned. Before lifting the ball, the player must mark its position. Having lifted the ball, he must place it on a spot within (specify area, e.g. six inches, one club-length, etc.) of and not nearer the hole than where it originally lay, that is not in a hazard and not on a putting green.
A player may place his ball only once, and it is in play when it has been placed (Rule 20-4). If the ball fails to come to rest on the spot on which it is placed, Rule 20-3d applies. If the ball when placed comes to rest on the spot on which it is placed and it subsequently moves, there is no penalty and the ball must be played as it lies, unless the provisions of any other Rule apply.

If the player fails to mark the position of the ball before lifting it or moves the ball in any other manner, such as rolling it with a club, he incurs a penalty of one stroke.

Note: “Closely-mown area” means any area of the course, including paths through the rough, cut to fairway height or less.

*PENALTY FOR BREACH OF LOCAL RULE:
Match play – Loss of hole; Stroke play – Two strokes.

ozymandias10

curly from cork wrote: »

Are you sure about this one GreeBo ? I thought once you touched your ball in the rough it wasn't qualifying

is the correct answer

Poker Face

I always thought as well that if u touched the ball in the rough it was non-qualifying but have a look at page 88 on this link - Dec 1(c)

http://www.congu.com/new%20manual/CONGU_GENERIC_web.pdf

So you can have a local rule for a plugged ball in the rough and it still be qualifying? I presume though if its lift and drop in the rough all the time then it has to be non-qualifying.