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Looking to upgrade to better wheels.

  • 16-04-2013 8:29pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭


    Hi folks, im riding a cube Pelonton race at the moment. The wheelset are a Easton EA30, and are pretty basic as far as my knowledge on them goes. I am looking to upgrade to a better wheelset and was wondering what kind of money I would be looking at for a set of carbon clinchers at the lower end of the spectrum, keeping in mind I would also consider buying second hand. I see nice deep section wheels on the planet x eire website but there a little "too" flash for my liking. I would be looking for something about half the depth of them. Also, I presume that deep section wheels will fit my bike??

    I presume the lighter the wheel, the better the performance, or am i incorrect in that its in fact, the stiffer the wheel the better the performance? ?

    My budget would be somewhere between 3-500, preferably at the lower end. Any recommendations new or used would be appreciated.



    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,416 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    id look at the shimano rs80's, looking to buy a set myself in the coming months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭subscriber


    id look at the shimano rs80's, looking to buy a set myself in the coming months

    Prob a bit over budget considering, a set would be approx 750 euro


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,460 ✭✭✭lennymc


    subscriber wrote: »
    Prob a bit over budget considering, a set would be approx 750 euro

    C24s about 400, c50s about 630. Nice wheels. I rave on the c24


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,416 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    subscriber wrote: »
    Prob a bit over budget considering, a set would be approx 750 euro

    sorry meant c24's, can be got for about 400 as lennymc said


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭Dotsie~tmp


    If I had 350-400 these.

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/campagnolo-zonda-clincher-wheelset/

    zonda-laufradsatz-schwarz-shimano.jpg
    Top Features of the Campagnolo Zonda Clincher Wheelset
    The Zonda wheelset has been strengthened thanks to MEGA G3. In the standard clincher tyre versions and 2-Way Fit, Zonda raises the performance level, boasting greater performance and more aggressiveness. A great wheelset for racing.

    Wheel Features:
    The milled rim reduces the peripheral weight of the rim and makes the wheel extremely reactive
    MoMag(TM) allows the external profile of the rim to be free of holes
    Dynamic Balance(TM) ensures every point of the rim is counter-balanced by an equal weight on the opposite side
    Aerodynamic spokes using the Spoke anti-rotation system (allows the spokes to maintain the best aerodynamic position)
    Spoke count: front - 18 aero spokes, rear: 21 aero spokes
    Hub - oversized flange on the drive side: increases the torsional stiffness, increasing reactivity at each change in rhythm of the pedal stroke
    Aluminium hub body: provides a high degree of lateral stiffness
    Aluminium axle: reduces the weight of the wheel
    Road
    Weight (g): 1550
    Condition: New
    MEGA G3 on the rear wheel makes Zonda 2013 range the benchmark wheel in the market providing greater torsional stiffness and greater side stiffness that transform into greater energy transmitted to the wheel.

    MEGA G3(TM) spoke pattern: perfect balance of the spoke tensions on both sides of the wheel. Reduces stress, increases transversal rigidity and the transmission of power to the wheel. MEGA G3(TM) eliminates vibrations even with "heavy" cyclists.

    Very pretty.
    1342438400986-spcwc1e6ifm9-670-75.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    subscriber wrote: »

    You haven't really said what reason you have for upgrading your current wheels, so it's hard to give a definitive answer.

    Strong, light, cheap. Pick two.

    You say lighter + stiffer = faster. But faster for what? Training? If you train right, your legs will make you faster. Training on light and stiff wheels will be expensive should things go wrong and uncomfortable the rest of the time.

    As mentioned, a general "do it all" wheel would be the RS80, Zonda or Ksyrium SLs.

    To be honest, I have a heavy commuter set (Campagnolo Scirocco), a lighter clincher (Ksyrium SL Premium) and a set of 50mm tubs (Gigantex on Novatec handbuilts) and each wheel is good at a certain task, you need to identify the task first. If you want to cover as many of the above as possible, go with one of the 3 listed!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭subscriber


    I would be looking for as you say, a "do it all" wheel" to use both training and racing. I train specifically for triathlon (don`t kick me out of the forum :D), and put in two turbo sessions and one long road session for every ten day block of training. I want something specifically to be light for races but obviously something that will also last with durability for training. Im not keen on spending money on a new wheelset to just hang on a wall and use only for race day as, triathlon is a summer sport and they wouldnt see more than 6 days use throughout the year if that was the case. I want a new set to enjoy on a daily basis for training, sportives, and for triathlon races throughout the summer, that will be light enough to see a difference in performance but also durable enough to last me a few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    subscriber wrote: »
    I would be looking for as you say, a "do it all" wheel" to use both training and racing. I train specifically for triathlon (don`t kick me out of the forum :D), and put in two turbo sessions and one long road session for every ten day block of training. I want something specifically to be light for races but obviously something that will also last with durability for training. Im not keen on spending money on a new wheelset to just hang on a wall and use only for race day as, triathlon is a summer sport and they wouldnt see more than 6 days use throughout the year if that was the case. I want a new set to enjoy on a daily basis for training, sportives, and for triathlon races throughout the summer, that will be light enough to see a difference in performance but also durable enough to last me a few years.

    Well, it's hard to look past the three mentioned. Unless you are willing to go with Cosmics (heavy and expensive) then there are few deep section wheels available that will double as a training wheel.

    Don't underestimate the simple things like availability of parts, you don't want to not have them for a race because the shop has to order in a spoke that's hard to come buy after you busted one on a training spin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭subscriber


    Mavic Ksyrium Equipe S - 1690 grams
    Campagnolo Zonda - 1550 grams
    shimano rs80 c24 - 1521 grams

    169 grams difference between the mavic and shamino.... Is 169 really that big of a difference .... ?? Genuine question.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭DirkVoodoo


    subscriber wrote: »
    Mavic Ksyrium Equipe S - 1690 grams
    Campagnolo Zonda - 1550 grams
    shimano rs80 c24 - 1521 grams

    169 grams difference between the mavic and shamino.... Is 169 really that big of a difference .... ?? Genuine question.

    Wheels can't be treated like bags of sugar, absolute weight is only one part of the equation.

    The EA30s are probably only 180g heavier than the Ksyrium Equipes, so why upgrade?

    Where the weight is on the wheel will have a big influence. Also, smoothness of the bearings, rim stiffness, etc. Not to mention the right choice of tube and tyre.

    There is plenty of good reading out there: Link But the main thing to take home is not to be led solely by weight.


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