Karl Mcginty...winging journalism.....@indo

goodgolfer64

I remember reading a few very distasteful articles from Karl about Tiger Woods when the storm brewed several years ago... that made my blood boil...so poor it was bordering on being racist.....
I do realise that the standard of writing in the irish independent sports has never been award winning but surely there must be basic entry standard.....
does he even play golf????
http://www.independent.ie/sport/golf/tiger-failed-to-realise-not-everything-is-about-winning-29195926.html

Surely he must realise that Tiger has raised golf to the heights its at currently....but is clearly blind.....

.....and im not brian Keogh btw....

gorfield

I generally as a rule don't read any golf articles unless they are from Brian Keogh, he's a fantastic golf journo and has raised Irish amateur golf awareness to new levels. Mr maginty however is only interested in controversy.

hawkelady

goodgolfer64 wrote: »

I remember reading a few very distasteful articles from Karl about Tiger Woods when the storm brewed several years ago... that made my blood boil...so poor it was bordering on being racist.....
I do realise that the standard of writing in the irish independent sports has never been award winning but surely there must be basic entry standard.....
does he even play golf????
http://www.independent.ie/sport/golf/tiger-failed-to-realise-not-everything-is-about-winning-29195926.html

Surely he must realise that Tiger has raised golf to the heights its at currently....but is clearly blind.....

.....and im not brian Keogh btw....

I agree with you completely. I read his articles for a laugh now. Has he ever wrote a golf article with using the word " Harrington" in it. I'm not bashing PH but its as if mcginty has his nose firmly you know where !!
Oh Karl does play golf , I believe he plays off 19 or 20.

The article you posted did look very sinister with his " seedy past" comment. Christ Karl talk about golf!!!!!

Benicetomonty

I can see where he's coming from to be honest. Tiger gives very little to journalists so when the chance to slate him comes along, many will take it with open arms. In this case, they didn't even have to try.

I'm glad that the 'Harrington rule' exists and I don't think Tiger should've been penalised for the drop at all, because it's a rule thats breached, if not broken, in probably every tournament on the PGA Tour. Next time you watch a guy hit a shot into the water, make sure you watch to see if he drops it into his own divot, assuming he takes the same option Woods took on Saturday. It never happens. Ever. So the couple of feet 'advantage' he gained is of no consequence as far as I'm concerned.

Until he publicly admitted he'd gained that advantage. Tiger hung himself with his post-round interview, because he he declared that he had knowingly broken a rule that is unknowingly broken all the time. Tiger's brain must've been scrambled when he conducted that interview because I don't believe a player of his experience could possibly be so ignorant of that specific rule. That combined with the arrogance and smuggness that goes with believing that 4 feet makes a difference to a shot of 90 odd yards and making sure that everyone else knows how incredibly precise you are, damned him imo. He had to go, and that he didn't really does suggest a scenario that I never believed could happen: A player has gotten bigger than the game of golf.

He should never have had the chance to withdraw, because a DQ was the only option the committee had, but because they chickened out, they put Tiger in a very difficult position. I agree with McGinty that Woods had the chance to make a decision that would've spoken leagues for Tiger's respect for the game and done a lot for his legacy, but I think it's obvious he made the wrong decision.

John Divney

The worst part about it, and I didn't read the article as I've spent to much time on this myself to be honset, is that people are saying it would have been great for Tigers 'PR' if he withdrew.

I'm sorry, but what the hell has Tigers past got to do with anything involving a decision to withdraw.

This is golf, not Hollywood, his agent, sponsors, people who want a redemption moment, have nithing to do with it.

Golf is played on the course, and the people who decide whther Tiger plays on are the Committee.

Tiger can withdraw if he has done some wrong, but to withdraw for PR reasons would be a far bigger disgarce to the game.

Jesus, play the rules, play the decision , and get on with it.

Sick of these people who think there's honor in committing Hari Kari when the game provides for,, or a committee rule you should be playing.

Benicetomonty

John Divney wrote: »

The worst part about it, and I didn't read the article as I've spent to much time on this myself to be honset, is that people are saying it would have been great for Tigers 'PR' if he withdrew.

I'm sorry, but what the hell has Tigers past got to do with anything involving a decision to withdraw.

This is golf, not Hollywood, his agent, sponsors, people who want a redemption moment, have nithing to do with it.

Golf is played on the course, and the people who decide whther Tiger plays on are the Committee.

Tiger can withdraw if he has done some wrong, but to withdraw for PR reasons would be a far bigger disgarce to the game.

Jesus, play the rules, play the decision , and get on with it.

Sick of these people who think there's honor in committing Hari Kari when the game provides for,, or a committee rule you should be playing.

I disagree. Tiger was given a 'get-out-of-jail-free' card, not exoneration. There's not a person in the world that isn't judged on both their success and their failures in life, regardless of whether they're from Hollywood or not.

If you want to focus on golf, look at Montgomerie in Indonesia and contrast his decision to Clarke's at Carton House a few years ago when he decided to chop out sideways from a perfect lie. Look at Davis Love who cost himself a chance to get into the masters in 1994, when he called a shot on himself when he couldn't remember if he'd replaced a ball correctly or not.

Tiger won't give a toss what people think about this, he's made that perfectly clear. But it will taint his legacy, whether he likes it or not, and as far as his golf is concerned, this will probably be the biggest question mark over his respect for the game and its rules that he will ever have to reflect upon.

John Divney

Different situations completley, players make decision on course, they have a chance to correct errors by the rules.

When they are unaware, and under investigation, they then are allowed to correct errors through the commitee bringing their attention, or by their fellow players, caddies, doing so, (now the tv audience)

It's seems bizare and against natural justice that a player isn't told of a ruling in his favour, not allowing him to clear his name and integrity at the time, when he would have done so.

charlieIRL

we have a thread on this already lads!

goodgolfer64

BTW lads I was making a post about Karl McGintys DIRE writing moreso....thanks 4 hijackin.... lol

Benicetomonty

goodgolfer64 wrote: »

BTW lads I was making a post about Karl McGintys DIRE writing moreso....thanks 4 hijackin.... lol

What was wrong with his writing? You believe he was being dramatic? Hard not to be when you consider how seriously rules are taken in golf. And if you fall on his side of the argument, I think his points are reasonable. Agreed the thread has gone off topic, but feel the OP disagreed with McGinty more than he criticised his credibility/talent as a journalist.

goodgolfer64

Benicetomonty wrote: »

What was wrong with his writing? You believe he was being dramatic? Hard not to be when you consider how seriously rules are taken in golf. And if you fall on his side of the argument, I think his points are reasonable. Agreed the thread has gone off topic, but feel the OP disagreed with McGinty more than he criticised his credibility/talent as a journalist.

so true so true......(role eyes to heaven) #unfollowingmyownpost!!!!!gluck

Benicetomonty

goodgolfer64 wrote: »

so true so true......(role eyes to heaven) #unfollowingmyownpost!!!!!gluck

'Roll'. Ok, Im done too. ;p