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ozymandias10

I play the Pro v1 or Pro v1x ( varies ). I am looking for a cheaper alternative as I am cutting the balls up alot and not getting much change out of them. Bridgestone seem cheaper and the ball I played was definitely more durable. I cant remember the model of the ball. Does anyone here know the Bridgestone equivalent to the prov1 or prov1x

Ernest Oreo

Stick with the Prov1s Ozy
You'll enter a different frame of mind if playing with a nike, bridgestone or other alternative ball.
This will have a negative impact on your game.
In my opinion, some of the bridgestone balls (others will clarify and provide the specific detail) are completely on par, if you'll pardon the pun, with a Prov1.
However, teeing up with a bridgestone is hugely different to a fresh / straight-out-of-the-box Prov1.
And you cant put a price / value on that.

Just my advice.
I have always found that playing with, and investing in, the best available equipment has the same impact as a series of one-to-ones with a top pro.
It keeps your game on track.

L.O.F.T

Ernest Oreo wrote: »

However, teeing up with a bridgestone is hugely different to a fresh / straight-out-of-the-box Prov1.
And you can't put a price / value on that

About €45-50 a dozen depending on where you buy them!

alxmorgan

ozymandias10 wrote: »

I play the Pro v1 or Pro v1x ( varies ). I am looking for a cheaper alternative as I am cutting the balls up alot and not getting much change out of them. Bridgestone seem cheaper and the ball I played was definitely more durable. I cant remember the model of the ball. Does anyone here know the Bridgestone equivalent to the prov1 or prov1x

B330 I think

SEORG

Srixon z-star, I find them much more durable than the pro-v's and you can get them from sportsdirect for €23/dozen delivered.

http://www.sportsdirect.com/srixon-zstar-golf-balls-875105

Make sure you change the currency to Euro

ShriekingSheet

SEORG wrote: »

Srixon z-star, I find them much more durable than the pro-v's and you can get them from sportsdirect for €23/dozen delivered.

http://www.sportsdirect.com/srixon-zstar-golf-balls-875105

Make sure you change the currency to Euro

+1 for the z star. They were on sale in American Golf for €22 per dozen during the winter. I gave them a try and it was a bit of an eye opener.

I have a dozen pro v 1s in a drawer, ready for the rare game I'll play this season on baked greens, or on a hard links. But sure, that's probably 5% of my golf.

ForeRight

SEORG wrote: »

Srixon z-star, I find them much more durable than the pro-v's and you can get them from sportsdirect for €23/dozen delivered.

http://www.sportsdirect.com/srixon-zstar-golf-balls-875105

Make sure you change the currency to Euro

For me this is the option all day long.

No way in hell would I pay 50 for a dozen pro v when a z star dozen is 23 delivered. The ball plays the same for me and the z star is more durable IMO.

Anto12

Just looked into that sprtdirect and it was €22 for a dozen of Srixon Z Star plus €4.99 for delivery .. Still good value compared to €45 - €50 for Prov's

SEORG

Anto12 wrote: »

Just looked into that sprtdirect and it was €22 for a dozen of Srixon Z Star plus €4.99 for delivery .. Still good value compared to €45 - €50 for Prov's

Once you go to checkout delivery is €1 to Ireland for all orders

Anto12

Cheers SEORG ... dont think that will be beaten for value !!

newport2

SEORG wrote: »

Srixon z-star, I find them much more durable than the pro-v's and you can get them from sportsdirect for €23/dozen delivered.

http://www.sportsdirect.com/srixon-zstar-golf-balls-875105

Make sure you change the currency to Euro

Thanks for that. Had been looking to try an alternative to Prov1, none of the other comparable balls were cheaper enough to make the switch. Until these, great value. Looking forward to trying them.

Have they been available for long at that price?

stringy

Bridgestone B330-S

best ball out there, I find it the same as, if not better (durable) than ProV1x. Don't like the ProV1 (too soft)

SEORG

newport2 wrote: »

Thanks for that. Had been looking to try an alternative to Prov1, none of the other comparable balls were cheaper enough to make the switch. Until these, great value. Looking forward to trying them.

Have they been available for long at that price?

About a month or so I think, there is a Sportdirect thread on Bargain Alerts where they highlighted the one for one on the €EUR to £GBP, too good a deal to pass up in my opinion.

big_drive

Bridgestone B330-S is a ball I must try, heard very positive feedback about it. I currently use Srixon Zstar XV

3sixty

Th srixon ad333 (in a blue box) i found were a good ball too.

I must check out the z star above as well.

alxmorgan

big_drive wrote: »

Bridgestone B330-S is a ball I must try, heard very positive feedback about it. I currently use Srixon Zstar XV

If you want to try on the cheap

http://www.eurogolfballsireland.com/bridgestone-golf-balls?product_id=686


EDIT: Not exactly same ball actually !!

SEORG

3sixty wrote: »

Th srixon ad333 (in a blue box) i found were a good ball too.

Agreed, have used these for the last 2 yrs for winter golf.

EvanCornwallis

If you are a good player you can play with any ball. Pro V balls make little difference to the vast majority of players. Crazy the amount of average players that swear by them. If you are losing balls and continue spending big bucks on balls, you're crazy. Even if you are a millionaire , no need.

John Divney

I vote for Srixon Z-stars aswell.

Russman

stringy wrote: »

Bridgestone B330-S

I find it the same as, if not better (durable) than ProV1x

This ^^^^

They can be had in American Golf for very good prices from time to time.
Z Star is also superb, possibly not quite as nice around the greens as Bridgestone or Pro V1 but not very far off. IMO the B330S is as close to a Pro V1x as you'll get.

Halpenny were doing the Taylor Made Penta TP5 for €25 or €30 a dozen (can't remember which) a few weeks ago because the new Lethal was being launched. I played the Penta TP5 a lot last year and its very nice. Scuffs up a little bit but doesn't cut.

To be honest there's not much between the top end golf balls from the big manufacturers. Titleist will probably always be the gold standard but the others are more or less as good. I think if any ball was significantly better than another, the pros would all play it and sponsorship be damned !
If you're good enough for the difference to effect you, you shouldn't be paying for your own golf balls

ShriekingSheet

Two good things about playing with cheaper golf balls is when, inevitably, a bunker or wedge shot scuffs your ball in a competitive round, you don't mind taking out a new one. Say what you like about the Pro V 1's elite performance, but after it's been shredded by a spin milled wedge, it does not achieve "optimum trajectory and spin". And after spending a fiver a ball, you'll find most guys sticking it out for the 18 despite the damage.

Secondly, you can play practice/friendly rounds with the ball you compete with. It's not such a big deal to tee up a new Srixon or whatever.

saintastic

Apparently the new Provs are much more durable. I haven't played them yet so can't confirm or deny.

big_drive

How much a dozen for the new pro v's?

I'm guessing around €55

mirrorball

Titleist are running a decent promotion at the moment if you can afford to buy in bulk. It's 4 dozen ProV1 or V1x for the price of 3. Depending on where you shop this could work out at as little as €35/dozen. Free personalisation is a condition of the deal so there is a 4 week lead time.

Arsenium

Anyone ever use the Nike 20XI - S (or X) ball?

Picked up a few of them in a pro shop a while ago (lost balls).

I loved them. I played them for a few weeks and when they were gone I reverted back to the Titleist balls. ProV's that I had been given as a Christmas present.

Biggest difference for me was with the driver. If I hit a drive that was off center, the prov was missing the fairways by a mile. The nike ball was keeping it's line and very rarely missed.

There's a whole load of technical jargon about how it minimises the effect of spin with the driver etc. but I couldnt believe the difference.

It was then I realised that the prov 1 is probably too much ball for the likes of me. Lovely ball for chipping and putting but I was just missing the fairway too much with it.

Mind you the nike ball is still expensive but about a tenner cheaper than the prov's for the dozen I think.

alxmorgan

Arsenium wrote: »

Anyone ever use the Nike 20XI - S (or X) ball?

Picked up a few of them in a pro shop a while ago (lost balls).

I loved them. I played them for a few weeks and when they were gone I reverted back to the Titleist balls. ProV's that I had been given as a Christmas present.

Biggest difference for me was with the driver. If I hit a drive that was off center, the prov was missing the fairways by a mile. The nike ball was keeping it's line and very rarely missed.

There's a whole load of technical jargon about how it minimises the effect of spin with the driver etc. but I couldnt believe the difference.

It was then I realised that the prov 1 is probably too much ball for the likes of me. Lovely ball for chipping and putting but I was just missing the fairway too much with it.

Mind you the nike ball is still expensive but about a tenner cheaper than the prov's for the dozen I think.

The bridgestone E6 is similar in that it reduces spin.
I would say it works to a degree and probably cheaper but might not be soft enough for you

big_drive

For a cheaper ball the bridgestone e6 gives a decent amount of spin

GreeBo

Arsenium wrote: »

Anyone ever use the Nike 20XI - S (or X) ball?

Picked up a few of them in a pro shop a while ago (lost balls).

I loved them. I played them for a few weeks and when they were gone I reverted back to the Titleist balls. ProV's that I had been given as a Christmas present.

Biggest difference for me was with the driver. If I hit a drive that was off center, the prov was missing the fairways by a mile. The nike ball was keeping it's line and very rarely missed.

There's a whole load of technical jargon about how it minimises the effect of spin with the driver etc. but I couldnt believe the difference.

It was then I realised that the prov 1 is probably too much ball for the likes of me. Lovely ball for chipping and putting but I was just missing the fairway too much with it.

Mind you the nike ball is still expensive but about a tenner cheaper than the prov's for the dozen I think.

Spin is what causes the ball to move in the air (and indeed to get up and stay up in the air)
Less spin means less movement (which is why you swing softer on windy days to hit it straight) but it also means more roll when the ball lands...you cant have both

Arsenium

GreeBo wrote: »

Spin is what causes the ball to move in the air (and indeed to get up and stay up in the air)
Less spin means less movement (which is why you swing softer on windy days to hit it straight) but it also means more roll when the ball lands...you cant have both

I found it a small enough sacrifice to make for the benefit I found when hitting it off the tee.

A friend of mine plays lesser golf balls when playing casual / practice rounds with me. Once he tees it up in competition he's on the first tee box with his marker, putting his dots on his brand shiny new prov. It's almost a snobbery thing, because it costs so much, that must be the reason I am not using one.

When in fact the real reason is I dont think I am actually good enough of a player to control it properly :-) Heaven forbid I ever suggest that, when he sprays another lovely prov out of bounds or into the water !!

alxmorgan

Arsenium wrote: »

I found it a small enough sacrifice to make for the benefit I found when hitting it off the tee.

A friend of mine plays lesser golf balls when playing casual / practice rounds with me. Once he tees it up in competition he's on the first tee box with his marker, putting his dots on his brand shiny new prov. It's almost a snobbery thing, because it costs so much, that must be the reason I am not using one.

When in fact the real reason is I dont think I am actually good enough of a player to control it properly :-) Heaven forbid I ever suggest that, when he sprays another lovely prov out of bounds or into the water !!

I always smile when I find a pristine Pro V1 buried somewhere where a player good enough to play Pro V1s wouldn't put it.

btw I don't play Pro V1 ...I have a bag of them at home awaiting the day I am good enough to play with them...still waiting

tommyombomb

Lads I wish scuffing balls was my biggest worry. Not losing a ball during a round is a victory for me. Can't justify spending big money on then. Two dozen in aldi keep me going for anywhere from 6rounds(it happens) to 15rounds

Almaviva

Is a caveat needed on this thread that the balls being discussed here are all high spin balls, that permit shot making and short game control by those with high swing speeds and fine skill? Relevant really only to category 1 golfers and better.

Lesser golfers dont really need to worry about spinning a ball to a stop on the green, but benefit most from help that minimises the spin that slices or hooks the ball to keep their shots from straying offline as much as possible.

Can I suggest the Ultra or the Pinnacle.

Russman

Almaviva wrote: »

Is a caveat needed on this thread that the balls being discussed here are all high spin balls, that permit shot making and short game control by those with high swing speeds and fine skill? Relevant really only to category 1 golfers and better.

True enough, but in fairness the Op did say he plays Pro V1s and was looking for alternatives.....

Ernest Oreo

Almaviva wrote: »

Can I suggest the Ultra or the Pinnacle.

the dead giveaway sign of a hacker..

dunlop and top-flight same as.

cjfitz

Have recently tried the Mizuno D201. A nice ball, similar to the Srixon Ad but the Mizuno has more durability and slightly more distance. Not too hard around the greens but I wouldn't use them on a firm links.

Would def buy them again but when Srixon Z-star are only a couple of quid dearer its no contest for me.
http://www.clubhousegolf.co.uk/acatalog/Mizuno-D201-Golf-Balls.html

Ernest Oreo

Have never ever seen a Mizuno golf ball.
Just saying.

Ernest Oreo

Lots of TM types on the cheap now.
Are they any good - Burner for example?
20 quid for a dozen like..

cjfitz

Ya neither had I. Afaik they were only available in Japan. They have 2 models, a mid price ball and a top end ball. The ones I tried were the mid price ones.

charlieIRL

alxmorgan wrote: »

I always smile when I find a pristine Pro V1 buried somewhere where a player good enough to play Pro V1s wouldn't put it.

btw I don't play Pro V1 ...I have a bag of them at home awaiting the day I am good enough to play with them...still waiting

play a round in either the K Club or the Palmer Course and you'll come home with a bag full of mint pro v1's!!

Arsenium

Almaviva wrote: »

Is a caveat needed on this thread that the balls being discussed here are all high spin balls, that permit shot making and short game control by those with high swing speeds and fine skill? Relevant really only to category 1 golfers and better.

Lesser golfers dont really need to worry about spinning a ball to a stop on the green, but benefit most from help that minimises the spin that slices or hooks the ball to keep their shots from straying offline as much as possible.

Can I suggest the Ultra or the Pinnacle.

The greatest ball ever invented, Unbreakable and remarkably...unloseable :-)

I often find that when people talk about prov's they (and I include myself until recently in this) talk about the spin around the greens, and how you can be agressive with chip shots safe in the knowledge that the ball will take the spin if you strike it correctly and as a result pull up quickly. But give very little consideration to the way it takes the spin from the tee shot.

I find those Nike 20XI balls a perfect combination. They didnt scuff as much as the prov either. But then again, they are still very expensive.

Ernest Oreo

Pretty sure i saw prov1s for sale in leopardstown GC this evening for €38
pretty sure

Almaviva

Ernest Oreo wrote: »

prov1s

Generally the sign of the delusional hacker with more money than sense.
Not always. But generally.

ozymandias10

Thanks lads will try the b330s as that was the ball I must have been playing. I will get a doxen z stars to look at as well. Thanks again to all who replied