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Transferring wealth from rich to poor

  • 14-04-2013 9:59pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 548 ✭✭✭


    There seems to be a sizeable number of people in Ireland who want wealth transferred from the well off tonthe "poor and vulnerable".

    The rich and elite are widely admonished and criticised. Did they ever consider that the so called poor in Ireland are rich and elite compared to the rest of the world. Would they agree to have more than half of their wages taxed and given to the truly poor around the world?

    After all "the rich and elite" don't shoulder enough of the burden, so they should have their wealth transferred to those who aren't rich and elite like us in this first world country.


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Damn hippies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    must be a drag being rich


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 595 ✭✭✭Steve O


    Thinly veiled "look at me I'm rich" thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Get a blog.

    I can assure you, nobody will read it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Must be hard watching people actually working hard and working to archive a goal in been well off for one
    Why should they give what they earned to bunch of scrounging poor people .


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Three Seasons


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Get a blog.

    I can assure you, nobody will read it.
    Thanks for the advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭donvito99


    Gatling wrote: »
    Must be hard watching people actually working hard and working to archive a goal in been well off for one
    Why should they give what they earned to bunch of scrounging poor people .

    And so it begins...





    Again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,221 ✭✭✭NuckingFacker


    I thought this was an offer of free money. Thread title is misleading. I want my bit of the wealth, and I want it now. Cheers. BTW, how do you "archive" a goal and does that mean it's already met?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    donvito99 wrote: »
    And so it begins...





    Again.

    Yup, I really hate it when people on the dole are called scroungers. The vast majority are on the dole for good reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Yup, I really hate it when people on the dole are called scroungers. The vast majority are on the dole for good reasons.

    Yes they are


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Dah, If I was rich, I would help the poor by giving charity and supporting organisations that I know would bring a real difference to people's life.
    More taxes mean more money goes into the pockets of people who don't need it or deserve it.

    But then there are greedy ****s whose main purpose in life is to hoard as much wealth as they can possibly amass at whatever expense necessary. But then these people are usually above the law anyway with most of their wealth stacked in offshore accounts and other such investments where the tax man cannot reach them.

    By the way many middle class professionals already pay more than half their income in taxes. Doctors are the best example of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Gatling wrote: »
    Yes they are

    Yes they are what? Scroungers, or on the dole for good reason?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Scruffles


    why shoud rich people pay for less well off people?
    they are not the reason nor blame for the fact some of us are not well off.
    people shoudnt be focusing on resenting the rich,if they have that much time to put towards hating others perhaps they coud be putting that towards sorting out a way of legaly making money.
    am classed below the poverty line here due to living in residential care,we get less than kids get for pocket money per week and are somehow expected to be able to look after complex needs,disability needs and specialist dietry food/drink essentials as well as the normal basics with this,however it isnt the fault of rich people the government hasnt got a clue what real living for poor people is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    There seems to be a sizeable number of people in Ireland who want wealth transferred from the well off tonthe "poor and vulnerable".

    The rich and elite are widely admonished and criticised. Did they ever consider that the so called poor in Ireland are rich and elite compared to the rest of the world. Would they agree to have more than half of their wages taxed and given to the truly poor around the world?

    After all "the rich and elite" don't shoulder enough of the burden, so they should have their wealth transferred to those who aren't rich and elite like us in this first world country.


    Bollocks. All of it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 548 ✭✭✭Three Seasons


    Bollocks. All of it.

    Nice contribution, see ya.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Get a blog.

    I can assure you, nobody will read it.

    Not true! I would!



























    Well, no, I wouldn't


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭KyussBishop


    We are living through one of the biggest transfers of wealth from the poor and middle classes to the rich, in modern history; how about we just stop that?

    I'm all for having successful businesspeople earn enormous amounts of money, which they enjoy and be widely congratulated for, where it is genuinely hard-earned money that benefits society; what I want is the fúckers who got that money through fraud, criminality and corruption to be put in jail (for a veeery long time), and those culpable for the economic crisis (and the unethical configuration of the political/financial system) to be held accountable.

    Not much to ask really; just want the law to be applied equally, not one set of laws for us plebs, and another for the monetarily/politically influential.


    As things stand, a lot of people got very very rich by pumping the property bubble here, and now the rest of us are left picking up the pieces, and we may not even be through the worst of it yet;
    there are a lot of people who should be in jail for that, a lot of people who should be held accountable for it who are not, and a lot people profited from it all without breaking any laws, but themselves sociopathically knowing it would lead to social/economic ruination for a lot of people.

    Some peoples attitude, is that banks/finance hold no blame in this, that the letter of the law is what counts, not ethics, and that even with things that are illegal, it is governments fault for not prosecuting (not the criminals fault for committing fraud), or that if they are not already prosecuted, there was no crime (despite the claims of whistleblowers, who have been implicitly threatened against reporting crimes by financial regulators).

    I haven't a lot of patience for such attitudes, and think everyone should be more angry about all of this; it's understandable for people to want to get away from the depressing reality of the crisis, but if enough people really looked at and paid attention to the details and extent of it, enough might actually care enough to lend their voice to doing something about it (rather than, in many but by no means all cases, lambasting those that do).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    That's ^^ what I wanted to say only I thought 'bollocks' was all the OP deserved for his randrodian propaganda presented as if were some sort of objective truth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Yes they are what? Scroungers, or on the dole for good reason?

    Yes on the dole for good reason ;-)





    free money
    (Joking)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭stretchdoe


    Socialise debt, privatise profit.

    That's what our politicians/governments are there to do, in your average western 'economy': ensure that that runs smoothly for those that 'matter'.

    The whole deal seems to be getting close to breaking down, though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    So many "allegedly" intelligent people on here and in Ireland and yet the word "Humanity" and it's meaning has bypassed them completely.

    Ended up with disabled children - Failure

    Had a stroke - Quiter

    Found yourself on the scrapheap at 55 - Loser

    Had the deck stacked against you from birth with no ones hand to help - Scrounger

    Been beaten and abused in marriage - Weakling



    So long as my money grows and grows, what the hell do I care about the people who leech off me and the taxes I pay?

    The phrase "There but for the grace.........." has no meaning for these people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭Wompa1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Whoremongering is my way of giving back.


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