Octavia 1.6 petrol or 1.9 diesel

magnus500

Howdy folks

I trying to decide which of the above to go for. I'm looking around 2005/6 model for around €3500. I do fairly low mileage (general runaround, up to Donegal every couple of months etc). I know the 1.9 is about €140 per year more in tax but will I see that back over the course of the year saving on fuel costs and efficiency? Driving a Toyota Starlet 1998 at the moment so interested to see difference in running costs. Seem to be a couple of good deals on DoneDeal.

Cheers for any help and maths geniuses

George Dalton

To be honest I would be a bit worried about any 2005/2006 Octavia TDI that you can buy for €3500. You might get a half decent old model Octavia for that money but any new shape examples in that price range are likely to be tarted up heaps of shíte.

magnus500

George Dalton wrote: »

To be honest I would be a bit worried about any 2005/2006 Octavia TDI that you can buy for €3500. You might get a half decent old model Octavia for that money but any new shape examples in that price range are likely to be tarted up heaps of shíte.

Like this you mean?

http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/cars/4542448

dh0011

that seems too good to be true

colm_mcm

Steering wheel cover and the fact that its a tour model would have me suspicious.

bazz26

Mmm, 7 year old Octavia diesel with only 76k miles.

Manky aftermarket steering wheel cover, knackered looking driver's seat and chunk from the front arm rest would have me very suspicious. Vehicle ownership also transfered back in January according to the motor tax website.

colm_mcm

I think its just an aftermarket armrest?

colm_mcm

My my, what do we have here?

Category:
Cars in Newbridge

Price:
Not Available
Contact name:
Merlin Car Auctions
Location:
M7 Motor Park at Junction 10, Naas Road, Naas, Co. Kildare
Published:
26th January 2012
Phone:
045 98 8700

2006 Skoda Octavia - Tour 1.9tdi 5DR Manual

Specification:

Mileage: 169036
Engine Size: 1896
Fuel: Diesel
Gear Box: Manual
Body Type: HATCHBACK
Doors: 5
Colour: BLACK
Year: 2006
NCT Due:
Previous Owners: 1
Additional Information:

MCA Ref 91083 Grade 2 Lot No 014 EX FINANCE VEHICLE Odometer reads 272037 KM -Mileage in KMEX TAXIClutch needs attention

Vehicle History:

BE SAFE: CLICK HERE to perform a history report on this vehicle

06D83794

fl4pj4ck

I used to have 1.6 Octavia which then I changed for 2.2 Laguna Diesel. All I can say is it paid off.

dh0011

fair play to you colm

MuppetCheck

Adverts gone!

colm_mcm

Still here on mobile version
http://m.donedeal.ie/mobile/for-sale/cars/4542448





New Number Ring 085 148 1195 not the number below thanks :-) Very clean car all round. Driving 100% New T/Belt @ 112k km Good Tyres NCT 09-05-2014. 123k Km - ABS - CD player - Centralised locking - Child Locks - Driver Airbag - Electric Windows - Immobilizer - Passenger Airbag - Power Steering - Remote Central Locking - Split Fold Rear Seats

bazz26

For anyone interested as Colm posted, a quick google of the reg brought up this link:

http://www.mytown.ie/newbridge/classifieds/Cars-for-Sale/Skoda-Octavia-2006-5-door-Diesel_36144.

That Octavia got some hair cut.

George Dalton

The whole country is full of balls of scrap like that.

Spare a thought for those of us trying to sell decent cars while being expected by some people to compete on price with the likes of that cowboy.

magnus500

Thanks for all the replies folks, I saw this advert http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/cars/4851031 saying it is 140000km and decided now to do a bit of research myself and found this http://www.carnext.ie/13122010.pdf which puts it at 206000km!! With frontal damage. Are most private dealers like this? I've never bought a car before and have perhaps been niave in my assumption of people's honesty. Are dealerships always a better option?

Bpmull

Op what miles do you do per year. My dad has a 2005 new model octavia with 170k km and he bought his last year and loves it. It gets alot of long drives mainly and is good on diesel about 55 mpg but that only on long trips they won't do that on short trips around town the same as any diesel. His has been completly reliable since he owned all he's done is serviced it. As for prices the going rate for a decent 2005 new model octavia is alot more than 3.5k euro. Anyone that's sold at that price is not being sold cheap for no reason. Diesel cars are in demand special good ones around the 5k mark. Anyone with a clean genuine 05/06 new model octavia would get 5k euro all day long for it.

colm_mcm

magnus500 wrote: »

Thanks for all the replies folks, I saw this advert http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/for-sale/cars/4851031 saying it is 140000km and decided now to do a bit of research myself and found this http://www.carnext.ie/13122010.pdf which puts it at 206000km!! With frontal damage. Are most private dealers like this? I've never bought a car before and have perhaps been niave in my assumption of people's honesty. Are dealerships always a better option?

That is from 2010 too! Presumably has been driving around the last 2 and a bit years

Ad now gone. That was quick

George Dalton

If you are looking for the cheapest example of any given car that you can find then that is the type of scrap you will end up looking at.

colm_mcm

And we're back...

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4948554

laurpat

colm_mcm wrote: »

And we're back...

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/4948554

Can this guy not be reported? Surely there is some agency/legal dept interested in this type of b.s

CiniO

laurpat wrote: »

Can this guy not be reported? Surely there is some agency/legal dept interested in this type of b.s

Looks like someone else selling.

Maybe he just bought it, and after purchase found out the car is sh1te, so now trys to sell it. He might be not aware of huge clocking that took place.

bazz26

From the motor tax website:

VEHICLE STATUS ENQUIRY DETAILSVEHICLE
Vehicle Registration Number 06D83794 Vehicle Details SKODA / OCTAVIA Change Of Vehicle Ownership
Transferred to an Individual on : 12/02/2013

Notified on : 22/04/2013

Vehicle Registration Certificate
Most recent Vehicle Registration Certificate issued on : 24/04/2013

colm_mcm

And its gone again

00833827

must be a boardsie ;-)

colm_mcm

Its not the seller that's removing the ad

Merch

What about the 1.8 petrol, whats that like for mpg,L/100km?

Surely there is a way to check the odometer other than relying on google?
Like readings at NCT's and get a printout of that, with pass or fail information, we pay for our NCT, what disadvantage can it be to have that information available?

I've checked cars that throw no information back out of google, nothing, nada,zip

sdanseo

A 1.6 petrol is in my experience a bad thing in a bigger-sized car - my Vectra actually performs less well, I'm told, than similar cars with a 1.8 petrol engine; it's pulling too heavy a car and struggles.

Merch

sdeire wrote: »

A 1.6 petrol is in my experience a bad thing in a bigger-sized car - my Vectra actually performs less well, I'm told, than similar cars with a 1.8 petrol engine; it's pulling too heavy a car and struggles.

there are 1.2 engines in the newer octavias, surely its a matter of power output than cc,
1.6 seems adequate, there are 1.6's in similar sized cars, ie focus/golf

any stats/personal experience on the 1.8 economy?

whilw similarily sized, the octavia is based on the golf chassis, the vectra is a bigger class of car, no?

Merch

OP I am now thinking the same thing re a 1.6 Octavia, just going to do a google trawl to see if I can find some relevant information.

Im coming from a smaller car and need the backdoors and a larger boot.
I was looking (so far online) people carriers, but they are mostly (in my price range) older models, with variable known/unknown history.
They were usually 1.8's at that age and hence, higher tax/ins and lower mpg which isnt a great advantage when I mostly need some space and dont do large miles.

Im looking for/do you or anyone know

whats the timing belt interval on the 1.6?
Is it the same as the other VW 1.6 like in the golf?
Whats the fuel economy like?
Been a while since I looked in the boot of an Octy, Im pretty sure its big

Do the rear seats fold flat (thats an ability Id need from time to time) so the whole thing can be made one large space, my back seats dont fold flat and it can be a pain when moving stuff.

appreciate any advice

colm_mcm

Pre 2000 1.6 were only 75hp. Really smooth engine though.

Merch

colm_mcm wrote: »

Pre 2000 1.6 were only 75hp. Really smooth engine though.

And post 2000, nearer 03/04?, same engine, I'll google some info too.
Id have presumed its the same 1.6 petrol in the Golf/Passat or any other VAG, if anyone knows if thats the case, I might get some results from google that way.
I tried googling timing belt intervals and the results are all over the place, anything from 60k miles or 4 years, 90k or 7 and even 110k miles!?
Hmmm

bazz26

VAG had two versions of the 1.6 litre petrol engine. They both had 102bhp. One was the older 8 valve unit which was pretty reliable while the other was the 16 valve unit which was just a bored out version of the less reliable 1.4 litre 16 valve engine found in the likes of the Golf, Bora, Octavia and Leon.

Not sure if the 1.6 16 valve was every offered in the Octavia but I'd avoid it if it is and stick with the older 8 valve engine. Usually the best way to identify the 16 valve version is by lifting the bonnet, it will have 16 valve written on the engine cover like below.

colm_mcm

Merch wrote: »

And post 2000, nearer 03/04?, same engine, I'll google some info too.
Id have presumed its the same 1.6 petrol in the Golf/Passat or any other VAG, if anyone knows if thats the case, I might get some results from google that way.
I tried googling timing belt intervals and the results are all over the place, anything from 60k miles or 4 years, 90k or 7 and even 110k miles!?
Hmmm

Far as I know, there's the 1.6 8 valve with choice of 75 or 102hp pre 00,
post 00 is still 8 valve but 102hp.
The 1.4 16v effectively replaced the 75hp 1.6.



New (not newest) models had the old 1.6, a 16v 1.6 with the same power, and the 115hp 1.6 FSI from the B6 passat

Merch

bazz26 wrote: »

VAG had two versions of the 1.6 litre petrol engine. They both had 102bhp. One was the older 8 valve unit which was pretty reliable while the other was the 16 valve unit which was just a bored out version of the less reliable 1.4 litre 16 valve engine found in the likes of the Golf, Bora, Octavia and Leon.

Not sure if the 1.6 16 valve was every offered in the Octavia but I'd avoid it if it is and stick with the older 8 valve engine. Usually the best way to identify the 16 valve version is by lifting the bonnet, it will have 16 valve written on the engine cover like below.

Thanks, thats good info to know, I could have trawled the net for hours and not have come across that.
Actually, I havent even seen the car, its online but minimal information available. I just saw a few 1.6's but hadn't heard anything about them.
Most I looked up were 1.9 TDi and 1.4 the latter of which I have not heard great things about.
I'll google VW 1.6's, have some where to start on now.

colm_mcm

Post 00 1.6 not very common in Ireland.

spiggotpaddy

Plenty of eight valvers about

colm_mcm

Weird thing about those 1.6 is that for the first second or so on cranking the engine it sounds exactly like a diesel

Merch

I've seen only a small collection in Ireland online for sale,

The UK sites usually seem to show more detail right down to the cc's
So I can see if its the 8 valve (1595cc) or 16valve (1598cc)

I have noticed the Irish sites giving even a close approximation to the engine size, most are correct, but you get 1.3 for 1.4 and 1.5 for 1.6

The bonnet open would be a handy picture, I'll be happy if the boot is shown open.

bazz26

A rare 1.6 auto:


http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Skoda/Octavia/ELEGANCE-1.6/201319214792493/

Merch

bazz26 wrote: »

A rare 1.6 auto:


http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Skoda/Octavia/ELEGANCE-1.6/201319214792493/

If thats all correct, thats the cleanest/lowest mileage Irish Octavia I have seen. From the previous images, it looks like its the 8valve too from the location of the oil dipstick? would that be correct? Ive come across a 1.9Tdi but its not an automatic, I gave up on it being a necessity, its older and cheaper than that.

I saw this and thought it'd be nice, but I wondered about the whole "its for sale for a customer/private sale via the garage?" and no NCT, just being recently out, Id wonder why they wouldnt just get it done given it will be back dated anyway.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Skoda/Octavia/1.8T-LAU/28513436399647740/advert?channel=CARS

bazz26

It's not unheard of for a garage to sell a car for a customer, they would obviously take a percentage of any sale. They are dreaming though at that asking price for a 10 year old example especially a 1.8 petrol model.

colm_mcm

That'd be a nice car though with the 1.8T (150hp aren't they?) and all those goodies. L&K models are very rare.
Small bit pricey but not bonkers if you're looking for an auto with goodies.

Merch

bazz26 wrote: »

It's not unheard of for a garage to sell a car for a customer, they would obviously take a percentage of any sale. They are dreaming though at that asking price for a 10 year old example especially a 1.8 petrol model.

Its not a runner for me now, but Ive seen a similar model older for similar pricing, I dont know what they are like on petrol, besides the NCT, Id be a bit concerned it has a tow hitch and its hard to see what the body is like, if its dirt that can be cleaned off or if they are scuffs or reflections. I didnt think it would be offered for much less, going by other Octavias I have seen online.
That auto 1.6, 3 owners in 7 years?? and only 44k miles, seems to good