Window not moving on a Ford Focus

kelbal

Hiya,
The drivers side electric window won't go down on my 2002 Focus. The passenger one is fine. Its was intermittent for a few days, but won't budge now. Have tried a replacement switch circuit board, no difference. I removed the inside door panel, located the motor, and gave it a few whacks while pressing the switch, nothing happened (this was a suggestion on a ford forum). Guess the next step is to try a new motor - but thought I'd put it up here for suggestions
thanks a mil

Nissan doctor

kelbal wrote: »

Hiya,
The drivers side electric window won't go down on my 2002 Focus. The passenger one is fine. Its was intermittent for a few days, but won't budge now. Have tried a replacement switch circuit board, no difference. I removed the inside door panel, located the motor, and gave it a few whacks while pressing the switch, nothing happened (this was a suggestion on a ford forum). Guess the next step is to try a new motor - but thought I'd put it up here for suggestions
thanks a mil

If you've already tried a known working switch then it can only really be the wiring or then motor its self.

George Dalton

The motors give plenty of trouble on them. A new mechanism including motor is around €130.

To verify the motor is the problem you can take off the door card and undo the 4 screws holding the casing onto the end of the motor (you can do this without removing the regulator) then remove the casing itself and move the rotor a few turns by hand. Refit the casing and the motor will probably work again, temporarily.

kelbal

George Dalton wrote: »

The motors give plenty of trouble on them. A new mechanism including motor is around €130.

To verify the motor is the problem you can take off the door card and undo the 4 screws holding the casing onto the end of the motor (you can do this without removing the regulator) then remove the casing itself and move the rotor a few turns by hand. Refit the casing and the motor will probably work again, temporarily.

thanks, will give that a shot

Mr.Fred

If you're going to go to the trouble of stripping down the motor. If you get some fine sand paper and hold it on the rotor and a couple of turns will remove built up carbon on the rotor, it will be a temp fix to get it up but probably won't last long. You can get it re coated with copper either but may be easier to find one in a breakers yard or on ebay.

This is a common issue with Renault which is often misdiagnosed as the window regulator.

kelbal

Hi Guys,
I disconnected the electrical connector block to the motor, put a multimeter across the terminals in the connector block, and pressed the window up/down button. I saw +/-14V on the multimeter, so it would seem all the wiring is fine as far as the motor.
I unscrewed the 4 screws of the motor casing, to be left with what you can see in the attached pictures. George, I guess you meant to turn the full block of what you can see in the picture by hand, and not the small metal rod you can see poking out at the end? When turning the full thing, it seemed to be loosening turning it one way, and tightening turning the other, so maybe I was doing the wrong thing?
After doing that, when I reconnected the electrics and turned car on, there was still no budge. So would it appear the motor is bust? That leaves me at a catch-22. The Haynes manual indicates that to get the motor/regulator out, you need to lower the window to a certain level, loosen 2 bolts, and take the window out - then proceed with taking the rest of the gear out. But if I can't lower the window in the first place, how can I proceed?

[edit - just thinking back to basic physics classes, the copper coil doesn't move at all, it is the thin rod in the middle that should be rotating I think? I couldn't get it to budge]

thanks

kelbal

turns out out was just the wire coil inside the regulator part, beside the motor, some of the wire had slipped off the main thread. Once I repositioned it back in place, it all worked fine again
thanks