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  • 08-04-2013 11:56am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭


    Hi,

    I'm just moving back from England and my employment will be ending later this week. Personally I don't want to take money from the state, and ideally would like to live off my remaining savings until it is time for me to seek employment again.

    But at the same time, life can throw you a curve ball, and there may be a time where I might actually need assistance.

    What must I do to remain above board, can I let DSA know that I am unemployed but not seeking assistance?

    What advice might you give?

    Thanks in advance.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,228 ✭✭✭mrsbyrne


    Explaining why you didnt apply for your entitlements can cause confusion for DSP here in Ireland later on. Ideally you should apply for JSB in England and once you have been in receipt of payment for 1 month, you can go along to your local Jobcentre and advise them that you intend to move to Ireland. You can trasfer your JSB here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    If you are moving back to Ireland I would advise you to sign on.
    If you sign on it keeps an up to date record of the credit's you will need at a later date to claim a state pension.
    Also it makes the dsa aware that you have been working in the Uk and keeps your record of stamps in better order.
    When you come back to Ireland you will need to bring a letter from you employer to say you are no longer working for them, prof of your address in England, tax details from the uk and a recent uk bank statement.
    You will also need prof of address here in Ireland. I would bring your passport also.

    The dsa will contact the uk re your details as far as I know so if you bring in all of the above it will make things easier for them and will help process your claim quicker.
    I know that it can take a while to process a new claim at the moment so I would do this as soon as you come back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭You Suck!


    lady lady wrote: »
    If you are moving back to Ireland I would advise you to sign on.
    If you sign on it keeps an up to date record of the credit's you will need at a later date to claim a state pension.
    Also it makes the dsa aware that you have been working in the Uk and keeps your record of stamps in better order.
    When you come back to Ireland you will need to bring a letter from you employer to say you are no longer working for them, prof of your address in England, tax details from the uk and a recent uk bank statement.
    You will also need prof of address here in Ireland. I would bring your passport also.

    The dsa will contact the uk re your details as far as I know so if you bring in all of the above it will make things easier for them and will help process your claim quicker.
    I know that it can take a while to process a new claim at the moment so I would do this as soon as you come back.

    I don't want to claim tho, I don't require it and it's my personal belief that only people who need the dole should take the dole, and I don't need it yet.

    I will get in touch with them however, perhaps I can have an incomplete application so they will have the required information.

    But if anyone can advise me on the do's and don't it'll really be helpful and I'll be appreciative of it.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 6,854 Mod ✭✭✭✭mp22


    You Suck! wrote: »
    I don't want to claim tho, I don't require it and it's my personal belief that only people who need the dole should take the dole, and I don't need it yet.

    I will get in touch with them however, perhaps I can have an incomplete application so they will have the required information.

    But if anyone can advise me on the do's and don't it'll really be helpful and I'll be appreciative of it.
    The problem you will have is when you need help (social welfare)It may take months to get and at that stage you will have no money ect.
    The best thing to do is to start a claim when you return to Ireland, it will take a long time to get sorted,in the mean while you can look for work while living off your savings. If and when you get a job you can close your claim even if it has not been finalised.When and if you receive any money from the dept you can put it back into your savings and be ready for the next rainy day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    You Suck! wrote: »
    I don't want to claim tho, I don't require it and it's my personal belief that only people who need the dole should take the dole, and I don't need it yet.

    I will get in touch with them however, perhaps I can have an incomplete application so they will have the required information.

    But if anyone can advise me on the do's and don't it'll really be helpful and I'll be appreciative of it.

    You can sign on for credited contributions only

    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/social_insurance_prsi/credited_social_insurance_contributions.html

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭Balagan



    Not without having paid or credited contributions here in either of the last two completed tax years.

    To qualify for a credit you must have worked and paid at least one PRSI contribution at PRSI Class A, B, C, D, E, or H and have paid or credited contributions in either of the last two completed tax years. For example, if you are applying for credits in 2013 you must have paid or credited contributions in either 2012 or 2011. If there is a gap of more than two completed tax years you must work and pay contributions for a further 26 weeks before you qualify for credited contributions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,168 ✭✭✭Balagan


    You Suck! wrote: »
    I don't want to claim tho, I don't require it and it's my personal belief that only people who need the dole should take the dole, and I don't need it yet.

    I will get in touch with them however, perhaps I can have an incomplete application so they will have the required information.

    But if anyone can advise me on the do's and don't it'll really be helpful and I'll be appreciative of it.

    It is not possible to make "an incomplete application". The advice given to you is really excellent.


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