Driver Shafts

levitronix

Wondering has anyone changed a driver shaft and got the result they wanted by just the shaft ?

golfnut1

Yes I have. Shaft has way more to do with flight than head model. I was custom fitted for a driver using trackman. Decided on a titleist 910 head and then tried out different shafts. There was a big deference in feel and flight between shafts and trackman backed up with the best numbers the one I felt was best for me.

hades

I changed my driver and my shaft, went from an R9 10.5 standard stiff shaft to an R11S TP 9 staff shaft.

I found with the R9 i was getting way too much spin on the ball, so much so in the winter months i was noticing my pitch mark a few feet in front of where ball ended up. Now however with the TP shaft i'm getting the ball to roll out a lot more and gaining a nice bit of distance as a result.

Arsenium

hades wrote: »

I changed my driver and my shaft, went from an R9 10.5 standard stiff shaft to an R11S TP 9 staff shaft.

I found with the R9 i was getting way too much spin on the ball, so much so in the winter months i was noticing my pitch mark a few feet in front of where ball ended up. Now however with the TP shaft i'm getting the ball to roll out a lot more and gaining a nice bit of distance as a result.

Hmm...are people getting run out on their drivers at the moment? Just thinking about it, any decent drives I have hit recently, the pitch mark is right beside where the ball ends up so basically I am getting no run out. And thinking more about it, and I know last year was a wash out, I havent seen my driver getting much run out at all in about a year. I'm still using an R7 driver (never took the plunge to the Titleist driver despite all my plans !!). Maybe a new shaft instead of a new driver? Is it possible to still do this for such an old driver ?

mike12

With the R9 onwards the removable shaft is great for trying out different shafts yourself, where you can change it in less than a minute.
Stock shafts are usually not great and a bit of shopping on Ebay will usually get you a decent upgrade.
I roughly knew what i needed and did a self fit by buying 4 drivers from the states and mixing the head and shafts until i got the set up i wanted.
I ended up selling the rest on so the driver cost me very little in the end.
Mike

rocafella

I have always wondered does getting a custom fit driver shaft always equal a big spend (€300 approx) on the recommended shaft at the end of the fitting ? Or can you go for a custom fit and still get a driver shaft which suits your swing for €100 ? And if you do have the choice at the end of the session what is the €300 shaft giving you that the €100 is not....more consistency or repeatability ?? i.e. if I put the same swing on both shafts I'll get more repeatable results with the €300 shaft ??

I am ignoring the cost of the fitting in the above, I'm more interested in what the more expensive shaft is giving me versus the cheaper shaft if both are chosen to suit your swing characteristics from the Trackman or other fitting system used.

Jazzzman

I recently changed driver from a regular shaft to a project x 6.0 stiff shaft.

Has it made a difference? Well I'm hitting the ball about 10-15 yards longer, but it's taking time to get consistent with it.

My swing speed was too fast for the regular shaft, hence the change.

mike12

http://www.golfcircuit.com/Taylor-Made-R11-Driver-Shafts/__3523.html

The shaft selection gives you a look at the cost of a lot of different shafts.
There was a table going around with the specs of iron shafts but have not found one for drivers.
Mike

alxmorgan

mike12 wrote: »

With the R9 onwards the removable shaft is great for trying out different shafts yourself, where you can change it in less than a minute.
Stock shafts are usually not great and a bit of shopping on Ebay will usually get you a decent upgrade.
I roughly knew what i needed and did a self fit by buying 4 drivers from the states and mixing the head and shafts until i got the set up i wanted.
I ended up selling the rest on so the driver cost me very little in the end.
Mike

Out of interest Mike what shaft did you settle on and what ball flight did it give you relative to your stats if you know them ?

mike12

Hi,
Its a Fujikura platform Extra stiff. Its a tour version can find it on google. Just getting less back spin with it and getting a bit of roll. The guy i bought the drivers off is the guy who get all the taylormade demo day and returns to sell. This is the guy who i buy the stuff off.
http://www.ebay.ie/sch/m.html?_from=&_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ssn=kingsbestdeals&_ipg=200&rt=nc

Senna

Not exactly the topic, but I had the same Fubuki shaft in reg and stiff in the same head, I thought there would be a huge difference but really there is very little. Ball flight is similar (mid launch shaft), distance is similar, only real difference is the reg shaft allows a nice gentle draw that would produce a dead straight flight with the stiff.

alxmorgan

mike12 wrote: »

Hi,
Its a Fujikura platform Extra stiff. Its a tour version can find it on google. Just getting less back spin with it and getting a bit of roll. The guy i bought the drivers off is the guy who get all the taylormade demo day and returns to sell. This is the guy who i buy the stuff off.
http://www.ebay.ie/sch/m.html?_from=&_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ssn=kingsbestdeals&_ipg=200&rt=nc

Get done by customs ?

mike12

alxmorgan wrote: »

Get done by customs ?

Yes, As far as i can rember i bought, 3 R9's and a R11 the R9's were about $70 and the R11 was $130 that was Jan 2012 think i got stung for around €70 on duty shipping was $40 for all of them and i got around €90 for the each for the R9's so it worked out very cheap for the R11.

Mike

chud1234

I got a fubuki aipha after market shaft for an r11s didn't get a fitting .
and the stock shaft out preforms the after market shaft apart from into the wind , wont buy again without a fitting.

levitronix

you take a chance buying like that, i tried a project x in a 6.0 for a couple of drives but i knew i could handle the 7.0, so im very happy with how it performs over my stock shaft

chud1234

were is the best place to buy an r11s tip and get it put on . local at pro and halfpenny hadn,t got them . I live in meath thanks

shaneon77

chud1234 wrote: »

were is the best place to buy an r11s tip and get it put on . local at pro and halfpenny hadn,t got them . I live in meath thanks

mcguirks can order them. Or go to foregolf in Killeen castle.

MiniGolf

hades wrote: »

I changed my driver and my shaft, went from an R9 10.5 standard stiff shaft to an R11S TP 9 staff shaft.

I found with the R9 i was getting way too much spin on the ball, so much so in the winter months i was noticing my pitch mark a few feet in front of where ball ended up. Now however with the TP shaft i'm getting the ball to roll out a lot more and gaining a nice bit of distance as a result.

This is my exact problem too!!
Which R11S shaft was it you got??

Golfgod101

chud1234 wrote: »

were is the best place to buy an r11s tip and get it put on . local at pro and halfpenny hadn,t got them . I live in meath thanks

A guy on adverts.ie has them

Dolph Starbeam

Jason Days Matrix shaft that he used at Merion costs €1000 :eek:

http://www.golfwrx.com/109312/do-you-need-1000-shaft/


Still using an old Titleist 909 D2 with Matrix Ozik XCON5 Stiff. Hoping to change to a 913 D3 soon, the bigger choice of shafts and ease of changing shafts is a big appeal for me.

Have Project X shafts on my Titleist 695MB irons, the difference over regular steel shafts is unbelievable, I'll never go back to steel shafts again.

Golfgod101

YayaBanana wrote: »

Jason Days Matrix shaft that he used at Merion costs €1000 :eek:

http://www.golfwrx.com/109312/do-you-need-1000-shaft/


Still using an old Titleist 909 D2 with Matrix Ozik XCON5 Stiff. Hoping to change to a 913 D3 soon, the bigger choice of shafts and ease of changing shafts is a big appeal for me.

Have Project X shafts on my Titleist 695MB irons, the difference over regular steel shafts is unbelievable, I'll never go back to steel shafts again.

Ye but its free for him or he gets paid to use it !

Any idea where i can get a titleist 910 7.5* head?

chud1234

i'd love to hit a 1000 euro shaft and snap hook it of the first tee as per usual smile and say money well spent

chud1234

shaneon77 wrote: »

mcguirks can order them. Or go to foregolf in Killeen castle.

I was onto foregolf about putting a rbz stage 2 tip on a shaft and was told they don't do it also want to change my lie angles on my irons they will do this but I have to tell them the angles ,,seems a bit strange to be turning down work in this day and age .

its very hard to get anything done involving shafts in Ireland . you would think with all these changeable drivers it would no big deal but it is . if what I read is true driver heads are maxed out a long time ago surely people should be playing around with different shafts . has to be a market in Ireland for a shop that just sells golf shafts ? were you walk in of the street hit a bunch of shafts on trackman get your fitting and buy your shaft .

as far as im aware there is no where in Ireland to a buy a r11s , titleist adopter etc you have to buy on ebay

DuckSlice

chud1234 wrote: »

I was onto foregolf about putting a rbz stage 2 tip on a shaft and was told they don't do it also want to change my lie angles on my irons they will do this but I have to tell them the angles ,,seems a bit strange to be turning down work in this day and age .

its very hard to get anything done involving shafts in Ireland . you would think with all these changeable drivers it would no big deal but it is . if what I read is true driver heads are maxed out a long time ago surely people should be playing around with different shafts . has to be a market in Ireland for a shop that just sells golf shafts ? were you walk in of the street hit a bunch of shafts on trackman get your fitting and buy your shaft .

as far as im aware there is no where in Ireland to a buy a r11s , titleist adopter etc you have to buy on ebay

I'm sure if you bought the shaft at foregolf they would do it. They probably would want to get you fitted there which costs 50 euro for your driver or 100 euro for full set.

hades

MiniGolf wrote: »

This is my exact problem too!!
Which R11S shaft was it you got??

I got the Aldila RIP Phenom 65 TP shaft.

Going on the review i'd have to agree with what they say.

I had no experience with the Aldila RIP Phenom 65 TP. (The upgraded shaft and small “TP” shaft graphic is the only way to tell the “TP” version clubs now.) The description sounded like most of the Phenom’s “action” was in the middle of the shaft, with a stiffer tip and butt end for good stability under the hands and spin and launch control for the head end. In these ways, it performs as those characteristics would suggest. The 10.5 degree head gave me that great initial height I was seeking, and the Phenom shaft keeps the flight very flat with nice run-out after landing. Carry distance is not an issue, and the workability of this combination has really impressed me. I really feel I can fire a little harder for a nice power fade with this shaft, and I can really feel the kick. It never feels in danger of getting squirrely.

http://www.golfdiscussions.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=45963.0

chud1234

etxp wrote: »

I'm sure if you bought the shaft at foregolf they would do it. They probably would want to get you fitted there which costs 50 euro for your driver or 100 euro for full set.

yes I know they would and im sure they would and do a brilliant job to the highest quality, but I just wanted a tip put on a shaft if they had told me it was 50 quid I would have said far enough no biggy .

i had previously left the shaft in somewhere and after 6 weeks they still hadn't done anything far enough they hadn't got the tip but i would have thought they would source a tip install it and then bill me accordingly.
lesson learned for me anyway don't buy a shaft without a tip .
rant over

neckedit

chud1234 wrote: »

I was onto foregolf about putting a rbz stage 2 tip on a shaft and was told they don't do it also want to change my lie angles on my irons they will do this but I have to tell them the angles ,,seems a bit strange to be turning down work in this day and age .

its very hard to get anything done involving shafts in Ireland . you would think with all these changeable drivers it would no big deal but it is . if what I read is true driver heads are maxed out a long time ago surely people should be playing around with different shafts . has to be a market in Ireland for a shop that just sells golf shafts ? were you walk in of the street hit a bunch of shafts on trackman get your fitting and buy your shaft .

as far as im aware there is no where in Ireland to a buy a r11s , titleist adopter etc you have to buy on ebay

What do you need exactly?

chud1234

I am looking to get an rbz stage 2 tip put on a shaft that's all

DuckSlice

chud1234 wrote: »

I am looking to get an rbz stage 2 tip put on a shaft that's all

Have you thought about doing it yourself? It isn't really that hard, you just need to get the right tip size and proper glue.

chud1234

etxp wrote: »

Have you thought about doing it yourself? It isn't really that hard, you just need to get the right tip size and proper glue.

yes I might aswell if you ever did it before id love hear how and what you did cheers

neckedit

chud1234 wrote: »

I am looking to get an rbz stage 2 tip put on a shaft that's all

I am assuming you already have the shaft? if so what is the tip dia?
I will get one and put it on for you if you can get the shaft to me.

chud1234

neckedit I will deff keep you in mind and if I didn't live 25 euro's worth of petrol and tolls away id take you up straight away . just out of interest what would you charge to
no.1 take an r11s tip of a shaft and put on another shaft if possible
no.2 put an rb stage 2 tip on a shaft
n0.3 cut 1 of them shafts and re grip it
if no.1 not possible price it to take of tip and put new 1 back on .
you can pm me if you want cheers

neckedit

to remove an R11s tip you need to use a compressor, which I don't have, but I could def get you one, a tip that is, you could post all to me and i would courier them back to you.

levitronix

neckedit wrote: »

to remove an R11s tip you need to use a compressor, which I don't have, but I could def get you one, a tip that is, you could post all to me and i would courier them back to you.

neckedit

levitronix wrote: »

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Thanks for that, seen it before, but i am not gonna try that with some one else's adapter,
But please feel free to try it yourself and let me know how you got on.

chud1234

was talking to Fore golf yesterday and there was a misunderstanding on my behalf about them adjusting lie angles on golf clubs .they do provide a full fitting and then adjustment service.

they explained to me that one oem tip is made with each golf head and that the tips on ebay are not oem parts as registered retailers with the companies they cant use non oem parts . that makes sense also .

just wanted to put that out there to clear a few things up .

Arsenium

Hi all,

I dont understand the science of golf club shafts very well. I have a TM R7 driver (will be replaced eventually) and recently I got a Titleist 910F fairway wood.

TM R7 driver - 10.5 degrees, TM stiff shaft. Set with the weights for a low ball flight. Ball still flies high, but carries a good distance.

Titleist 910F - 15 degrees, Kal'li diamana 75 stiff shaft (blue). Set at neutral. Ball flies lower than the driver with a much more penetrating flight and goes every bit as far as the driver.

Is this purely as a result of the shaft? And is it logical to think so, that if I bought a Titleist 910 driver, with the same shaft as the 910F, I should see a better ball flight?

realgolfgeek

Arsenium wrote: »

Titleist 910F - 15 degrees, Kal'li diamana 75 stiff shaft (blue). Set at neutral. Ball flies lower than the driver with a much more penetrating flight and goes every bit as far as the driver.

Is this purely as a result of the shaft? And is it logical to think so, that if I bought a Titleist 910 driver, with the same shaft as the 910F, I should see a better ball flight?

Scary, was in the exact same position myself, except I got the 913 F. Changed my 910D2 driver shaft, and got an extra 20 yards with a lower ball flight.
Before I changed the shaft on the driver, I was getting the same distance with the fairway wood but had a lot more control over it.

m r c

[quote="Arsenium;

Titleist 910F - 15 degrees, Kal'li diamana 75 stiff shaft (blue). Set at neutral. Ball flies lower than the driver with a much more penetrating flight and goes every bit as far as the driver.

^^^ regarding this, is your carry the same?
What difference approx length is there between the shafts?


I have the exact same 3 wood and I wouldn't call it the lowest ever flight tbh

whizbang

A huge factor that folks often don't understand, is the longer length of shaft makes it harder to accelerate and so clubhead speed gets lower as shaft gets longer.

Arsenium

m r c wrote: »

[quote="Arsenium;

Titleist 910F - 15 degrees, Kal'li diamana 75 stiff shaft (blue). Set at neutral. Ball flies lower than the driver with a much more penetrating flight and goes every bit as far as the driver.

^^^ regarding this, is your carry the same?
What difference approx length is there between the shafts?


I have the exact same 3 wood and I wouldn't call it the lowest ever flight tbh

I measured the clubs last night. From the top of the grip to where the shaft enters the club head. 41 inches for the TM driver. 40 inches for the Titleist 910f.

I reckon the carry is pretty much the same with the 3 wood, maybe a little less than with the driver.

I have seen guys on the range with much lower ball flights for sure but the flight is definitely lower on my 3 wood than my driver. Which is why I'd be very interested to see what the flight would be like with that shaft on a driver.
Given that it has a smaller head and 5 degrees more loft on it, is a lower ball flight not a bit counter intuitive? Which would suggest the shaft is quite different between the two clubs.

I have noticed the shaft on the driver also appears to be thicker than the shaft on the 3 wood. Maybe that's my imagination though.

ssbob

Arsenium wrote: »

I measured the clubs last night. From the top of the grip to where the shaft enters the club head. 41 inches for the TM driver. 40 inches for the Titleist 910f.

Very short driver, I recently cut mine from 44 to 43.

Arsenium

ssbob wrote: »

Very short driver, I recently cut mine from 44 to 43.

I was surprised to find that myself. Maybe I've been selling myself short all this time by using a short driver!!

I'll take a look at my brothers and my old mans at the weekend.

m r c

I have an r7 superquad at home that's been cut to 43 and I'll measure mine from ferrule to butt end of grip to compare for you.

If I was playing a high draw with my cut down r7 vs my 910f I'm getting about 15-18 yards more carry but with a fair bit more roll out. Both struck well centered hits.

That said I wouldn't really ever play a high draw with the fw so in real terms my carry with the driver would be more 20-25 yd range.

I suspect your aoa maybe quite level with both clubs and the higher launch angle from the 910 is making up for the shaft length difference.

^^^ above is guesswork though.

Arsenium

I must be measuring it wrong? Just too a quick look online and found this.

"The method most used involves placing the club in the playing position with the center of the sole touching the ground. This is how we measure our clubs at Hireko. A 48” golf club rule is placed along the backside of the club with the tip of the rule touching the ground by the club’s heel. The final length is measured at the edge of the grip cap (and not the very top). This method is used in all cases except putters that the shaft is not located at the heel."

I laid the club flat on a table and measured from the top of the grip to where the shaft met the club head. Which is a lot shorter in fairness.

Wombatman

whizbang wrote: »

A huge factor that folks often don't understand, is the longer length of shaft makes it harder to accelerate and so clubhead speed gets lower as shaft gets longer.

I'm one of those folks then. Head of 6 iron moves faster than a 9 iron because the club is longer right, hence the distance difference.