golf handicap

dratherer

hi all
just a quick question i have played very little golf in the last five years due to personnel reasons, have decided to go back and join ex club again after a lapse of four years, my question is will i be playing off my old handicap or do i HAVE to hand in 3 cards again, i have been hearing different answers from different people and i am really curious to know what is the correct procedure according to the rules of the game. my old handicap was 14.5. i dont really mind one way or the other but i have when it comes to golf some "know it all" friends and i am really curious to know what is the correct answer. they are sound guys by the way just that golf can get a bit "rulesy" if you know what i mean. thanks for reading and look forward to any answers i receive,,

Creasy_bear

To the best of my knowledge you'll have the same handicap. Unless you have a cert from a doctor explaining your absence from the game, in which case you might be entitled to a couple of shots back.

I'm probs wrong though.

Keano

You will have to hand in 3 cards again.

slave1

Keano A Legend wrote: »

You will have to hand in 3 cards again.

Yep, I was in the same boat, 3 cards, your old handicap dies after 6 months

dratherer

sorry but it sounds like my mates allready 2 different opinions got a good laugh out of that. but who is right ? surely their must be a single correct answer. thanks anyway guys. ps im still laughing away here , no offence.:D

Creasy_bear

slave1 wrote: »

Yep, I was in the same boat, 3 cards, your old handicap dies after 6 months

Wow. That really surprises me to be honest.

Creasy_bear

dratherer wrote: »

sorry but it sounds like my mates allready 2 different opinions got a good laugh out of that. but who is right ? surely their must be a single correct answer. thanks anyway guys. ps im still laughing away here , no offence.:D

I'm obviously wrong.

dratherer

slave1 wrote: »

Yep, I was in the same boat, 3 cards, your old handicap dies after 6 months

thank you but do you know if you HAD to put in 3 cards again or was it choice of your club handicapper . just would like a diffinitive answer if possible..

dratherer

Creasy_bear wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge you'll have the same handicap. Unless you have a cert from a doctor explaining your absence from the game, in which case you might be entitled to a couple of shots back.

I'm probs wrong though.

ok reason away from game is that my wife 42 passed away and i lost interest and thats putting it mildly

Daithio12

Got to love this guy, he gets the correct answer twice and still questions it.
Definitively you must submit 3 new cards.
If you still have doubts then look it up on congu.com.

Creasy_bear

dratherer wrote: »

ok reason away from game is that my wife 42 passed away and i lost interest and thats putting it mildly

I'm wrong, mate. But I was sure if you took a break from the game it was tough ****. You kept the same handicap you had unless you had a cert from a doc explaining why you couldn't play. I mean what's to stop me (5) taking a yr off, then joining another club to hand in 3 **** cards.



Sorry to hear about your wife.

dratherer

Daithio12 wrote: »

Got to love this guy, he gets the correct answer twice and still questions it.
Definitively you must submit 3 new cards.
If you still have doubts then look it up on congu.com.

glad you love me but i got 3 answers obviously in your opinion one was wrong and 2 were right. i suppose what i was hoping for was a link or something to the correct answer if possible, i am looking at congu.com but i am not having much luck with it im afraid anyway thank you all for your input guys much appreciated,

dratherer

Creasy_bear wrote: »

I'm wrong, mate. But I was sure if you took a break from the game it was tough ****. You kept the same handicap you had unless you had a cert from a doc explaining why you couldn't play. I mean what's to stop me (5) taking a yr off, then joining another club to hand in 3 **** cards.



Sorry to hear about your wife.

i agree with you as regards the example you gave but golf is a game of integrity and honesty as i am sure you are a good example of this. plus giving it up for a year i think would not be easy for you to do.

Creasy_bear

dratherer wrote: »

i agree with you as regards the example you gave but golf is a game of integrity and honesty as i am sure you are a good example of this. plus giving it up for a year i think would not be easy for you to do.

Integrity? Ha!! You obviously don't play in too many am ams.

I just texted a mate. He worked on our competitions commitee for yrs. He said 3 cards but they'll probs just give you a handicap of 16.

FixdePitchmark

dratherer wrote: »

ok reason away from game is that my wife 42 passed away and i lost interest and thats putting it mildly

Dratherer,

Best of luck with your comeback. Hopefully it helps you. I had dificult personnel circumstances (not to same extent as you) and used golf to try deal with it. Best thing I ever did.

Hopefully it helps you. Best of luck.

dratherer

Creasy_bear wrote: »

Integrity? Ha!! You obviously don't play in too many am ams.

I just texted a mate. He worked on our competitions commitee for yrs. He said 3 cards but they'll probs just give you a handicap of 16.

integrity was slightly tongue in cheek,,,, so i basically hand in 3 cards and play off old handicap.. cool thank you for your effort. did not really want a higher handicap and am pretty sure at the moment i wont be able for 16 but hopefully will not take too long to be able to,

ForeRight

There is no definitive answer to your question.

It's at the discretion of the club really. You may hand in your 3 cards and get a suitable handicap based on them but you may also hand in those cards and get your old handicap back when they see you previously played to that.

I had a friend that didnt play for years and got his 14 handicap even though he handed in cards of 100+.


Either way you deffo have to hand in 3 cards then just wait and see what you get.

PARlance

http://www.gui.ie/handicap-manual/congu_2012_correct-pdf.aspx

There's your link.

The short version.
3 cards required.

The HC secretary should also exercise due care by asking you if you've been a GUI member before and verify your previous HC.

It may or may not affect your new HC. The awarding of a HC is not an exact science.

Creasy_bear

ForeRight wrote: »

There is no definitive answer to your question.

It's at the discretion of the club really. You may hand in your 3 cards and get a suitable handicap based on them but you may also hand in those cards and get your old handicap back when they see you previously played to that.

I had a friend that didnt play for years and got his 14 handicap even though he handed in cards of 100+.


Either way you deffo have to hand in 3 cards then just wait and see what you get.

Yes but your mate may have had a birdie or two on each card. If the handicappers can see that you're capable of making birdies, they'll open your hole. That's what happened me when I started out.

Let that be a lesson to you OP ~ no birdies

levitronix

ajcurry123 wrote: »

http://www.gui.ie/handicap-manual/congu_2012_correct-pdf.aspx

There's your link.

The short version.
3 cards required.

The HC secretary should also exercise due care by asking you if you've been a GUI member before and verify your previous HC.

It may or may not affect your new HC. The awarding of a HC is not an exact science.

Im that exact boat, I put an 80, 83 and 86 for HC, then on Monday shot a 79 playing with the barton cup selector from my club. So im guessing what they will give me

dratherer

Creasy_bear wrote: »

Yes but your mate may have had a birdie or two on each card. If the handicappers can see that you're capable of making birdies, they'll open your hole. That's what happened me when I started out.

Let that be a lesson to you OP ~ no birdies

no birdies haha so much for your integrity and honesty they went right out the window, funny tho last time i played i was crap all way round and then voila birdied the last lol

ForeRight

Creasy_bear wrote: »

Yes but your mate may have had a birdie or two on each card. If the handicappers can see that you're capable of making birdies, they'll open your hole. That's what happened me when I started out.

Let that be a lesson to you OP ~ no birdies

No birds at all. I marked his cards. He was brutal.

dratherer

ForeRight wrote: »

No birds at all. I marked his cards. He was brutal.

Well signed up again and was given a 15 handicap. So following evening went out for nine holes. Funny old game I birdied the index 1 hole (second time ever) was expecting this to be the highlight of my round but lo and behold I had a hole in one on 175 yard par 3. I guess someone was looking down on me still in shock I am

Rikand

Congrats on the hole in one - was anyone there to see it ?

slave1

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

Congrats on the hole in one - was anyone there to see it ?

+1, what course/hole?

dratherer

Rickylovesuall wrote: »

Congrats on the hole in one - was anyone there to see it ?

Yes had 2 playing partners thank god just got great buzz after everything

dratherer

slave1 wrote: »

+1, what course/hole?

Killorglin. Birdie no 2. Hole in one no 5.

ciaeim

dratherer wrote: »

Well signed up again and was given a 15 handicap. So following evening went out for nine holes. Funny old game I birdied the index 1 hole (second time ever) was expecting this to be the highlight of my round but lo and behold I had a hole in one on 175 yard par 3. I guess someone was looking down on me still in shock I am

nice one man , think someone (your wife)was looking down on you and why not , i have a feeling u deserve it well done;)

aaronlim

Hi I havent played in 2 1/2 years was off 13 any idea what ill get i have 2 of 3 cards to hand in they are in the 90 s?

fred funk }{

aaronlim wrote: »

Hi I havent played in 2 1/2 years was off 13 any idea what ill get i have 2 of 3 cards to hand in they are in the 90 s?

Revert all high scores to double bogies and you'll get a better idea. They'll also take your previous handicap into consideration.

mighty magpie

fred funk }{ wrote: »

Revert all high scores to double bogies and you'll get a better idea. They'll also take your previous handicap into consideration.

+1, and take 2/3 shots of your lowest card after doing this then you won't be far off.

Stacksey

Joined a golf course for the first time in my life in October, never previously had a handicap and I got 11, feel hard done by with that

fred funk }{

Stacksey wrote: »

Joined a golf course for the first time in my life in October, never previously had a handicap and I got 11, feel hard done by with that

Thought it should have been lower or higher?

The Rape of Lucretia

Stacksey wrote: »

Joined a golf course for the first time in my life in October, never previously had a handicap and I got 11, feel hard done by with that

You shouldnt really. Have a look at the Congu system on the www.golfnet site and it will explain the system to you. You will see there is no such thing as being hard done by as such. You are not alone though - most golfers dont understand the relationship between their handicap and their scores.

Stacksey

fred funk }{ wrote: »

Thought it should have been lower or higher?

Thought it would have been higher, but I don't mind, I just enjoy playing golf now on a regular basis(when the weather permits)

The Rape of Lucretia

aaronlim wrote: »

Hi I havent played in 2 1/2 years was off 13 any idea what ill get i have 2 of 3 cards to hand in they are in the 90 s?

You should get 14 or 15 depending on the SSS of the course you submitted the cards. 14 more likely. (You must have 3 cards). And hc sec should monitor any qualify scores you put in for a few months and adjust under general play additionally if necessary.

mighty magpie

Stacksey wrote: »

Joined a golf course for the first time in my life in October, never previously had a handicap and I got 11, feel hard done by with that

What 3 cards did you hand in? How long have you been golfing?

My first handicap was 12 but i had been playing for years

spacecoyote

Stacksey wrote: »

Joined a golf course for the first time in my life in October, never previously had a handicap and I got 11, feel hard done by with that

Why would you feel hard done by for getting a low handicap. Isn't the quest to go as low as you can. There are guys who'll never get to the level you're starting from. You should be chuffed to be starting from there.

What are your expectations in terms of scoring?

Stacksey

spacecoyote wrote: »

Why would you feel hard done by for getting a low handicap. Isn't the quest to go as low as you can. There are guys who'll never get to the level you're starting from. You should be chuffed to be starting from there.

What are your expectations in terms of scoring?

Well I suppose the expectation now is to get to single figures after a couple of years, found the first few rounds nerve racking on the 1st tee for competitions with lots of people around and not knowing anyone, took me about 8 rounds to get to 30 points off that handicap so hopefully onwards on upwards

Glebee

Other than playing in local competions whats the advantages of a handicap? I still have not submitted my 3 cards to the handicap commitee. I recently joined my local club and happy enough at the moment to play away as I am (when ever the damn weather gets a bit better), hopefully getting better but by bit. Im guessing if I was to get my 3 cards in id be in the low 20s at least.

Stacksey

Glebee wrote: »

Other than playing in local competions whats the advantages of a handicap? I still have not submitted my 3 cards to the handicap commitee. I recently joined my local club and happy enough at the moment to play away as I am (when ever the damn weather gets a bit better), hopefully getting better but by bit. Im guessing if I was to get my 3 cards in id be in the low 20s at least.

Well generally you get a handicap to compete in your club competitions and open competitions in other courses if you wish, no point in joining somewhere if you just want to to plod around with your mates all the time, thats what teetimes.ie is for

prawnsambo

Stacksey wrote: »

Well generally you get a handicap to compete in your club competitions and open competitions in other courses if you wish, no point in joining somewhere if you just want to to plod around with your mates all the time, thats what teetimes.ie is for

Well it makes sense if you want to play regularly, whether in competition or not. Paying green fees will become an expensive option if you're playing every weekend. Plus you can be excluded from peak tee times as well.

spacecoyote

Glebee wrote: »

Other than playing in local competions whats the advantages of a handicap? I still have not submitted my 3 cards to the handicap commitee. I recently joined my local club and happy enough at the moment to play away as I am (when ever the damn weather gets a bit better), hopefully getting better but by bit. Im guessing if I was to get my 3 cards in id be in the low 20s at least.

You'd also be missing out on the value of playing Open Competitions away from home. They tend to be at a considerably lower rate than the courses standard rack rate.

Other than that, there aren't "advantages" as such. For me, I have an official handicap, so I have something meaningful to work on & work towards, plus something for a bit of bragging rights with mates. I want to get my handicap as low as possible. If I pick up competition prizes its a bonus, but it's not what I have the handicap for