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GCSEs, Junior Certificate and a Wibbly Wobbly Mess.

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  • 03-04-2013 1:28am
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    Moromaster
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    This may be in the incorrect forum, however I couldn't find a better alternative. Please recommend a better section if one is appropriate.

    I have decided, due to very awkward living and financial circumstances, decided to join the United States Airforce. I am a citizen, and I'd really be grateful if people didn't go into that, and just focused on the question on hand.

    I need to certify that I have graduated at a level of an American 'Highschool', which is awkward, considering I need this pretty much NOW; and I won't be receiving my Leaving Cert results till God knows when.

    I read, online, that a 5 C+ passes on a GCSE are equivalent to a High School Diploma, and I got 5 A's on my Junior Cert. Can anyone verify that this is actually okay? Are the GCSEs are JC results largely congruent?

    I can apply to have my education verified here:
    Education International
    Email: edint@gis.net
    Web site: http://www.educationinternational.org

    Educational Records Evaluation Service
    Email: edu@eres.com
    http://www.eres.com

    World Education Services
    Email: info@wes.org
    Web site: http://www.wes.org

    Educational Credential Evaluators, Inc
    Email: eval@ece.org
    http://www.ece.org

    Evaluation Service, Inc.
    Email: esi2@frontiernet.net
    http://www.evaluationservice.net

    Foreign Academic Credential Service, Inc
    http://www.facsusa.com
    However, they're RIDICULOUSLY expensive. So if a Junior Cert is DEFINITELY or DEFINITELY not congruent with a high school diploma, I need to know, now. I've been researching loads on the internet, but I cannot find any conclusive evidence. Someone please help me.

    And if anyone's interested, I scored 87 on a Mock-Asvab; so that's in order.
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    spurious
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    This site confirms the Junior Cert., GCSEs and American High School Diploma are all on a par with the International General Certificate of Secondary Education.

    The US Navy and Airforce have recruited Irish school leavers before. I know one of ours went to them a couple of years ago. They are well aware of international standards.

    *edit* Why the delay in getting your LC results? Can you not contact your old school? They will have them.


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    rainbowtrout
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    spurious wrote: »
    This site confirms the Junior Cert., GCSEs and American High School Diploma are all on a par with the International General Certificate of Secondary Education.

    The US Navy and Airforce have recruited Irish school leavers before. I know one of ours went to them a couple of years ago. They are well aware of international standards.

    *edit* Why the delay in getting your LC results? Can you not contact your old school? They will have them.

    I'd say he's only sitting the LC this summer.


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    spurious
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    Ah OK, the LC results should be out August 14th, if the OP needs to give an exact date of when they will have the results.


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    Moromaster
    Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭Moromaster


    spurious wrote: »
    This site confirms the Junior Cert., GCSEs and American High School Diploma are all on a par with the International General Certificate of Secondary Education.

    The US Navy and Airforce have recruited Irish school leavers before. I know one of ours went to them a couple of years ago. They are well aware of international standards.

    *edit* Why the delay in getting your LC results? Can you not contact your old school? They will have them.
    Oh, that's absolutely brilliant. Thank you, I've been concerned because otherwise I'd have to wait till August till get my results, which would result in a BMT shipout date of something along the lines of February 2014.


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    Moromaster
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    So an A in English, History, Religion, Art and CSPE, coupled with B's and C's in everything else (All honors), is equivalent to an American High School diploma?


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    spurious
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    More than equivalent.


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    Moromaster
    Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭Moromaster


    spurious wrote: »
    More than equivalent.
    Do you know anywhere other than the IGSCE that can confirm this? I've contacted all the agencies that I listed above, and they're all responding in the negative, claiming that I require a Leaving Certificate qualification. I'm fuming, because I don't have time to wait till August; I'm capable of doing a Leaving Certificate right now, and even once I've done it, I'll have no proof. It's awful. :mad:


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    spurious
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    http://www.immihelp.com/immigration/high-school-diploma-equivalents.html

    They say LC on that site, but it would be Ordinary LC, which is roughly the same as Higher Level JC.
    We have a student this year who has already got a place in a US college with a not terribly spectacular Junior Cert. and he will sit the LCA later this year. It was accepted as the standard of their High School Diploma.
    Even some degrees from US colleges would be more like a really good HL Leaving Cert. here.

    This is high school diploma standard. Note the numbers of years study required.
    http://www.csumentor.edu/planning/high_school/subjects.asp


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