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what are the advantages of agfood.ie

  • 02-04-2013 10:49am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭


    hi i see alot of member here talking about how they use agfood.ie, but what are the advantages of it over filling in the forms and sending them in, im thinking of suggesting it to my father as i heard it makes registering calves easier but what else can you do with it and would you recommend it. he has a small suckler herd with about 14-15 cows and a bull and has around 10-12 calves every year so would it make much of a difference to farming on such a small scale.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭simx


    Conchurl wrote: »
    hi i see alot of member here talking about how they use agfood.ie, but what are the advantages of it over filling in the forms and sending them in, im thinking of suggesting it to my father as i heard it makes registering calves easier but what else can you do with it and would you recommend it. he has a small suckler herd with about 14-15 cows and a bull and has around 10-12 calves every year so would it make much of a difference to farming on such a small scale.

    you can look up movements in and out and make movements if the transferee is on agfood aswell, register calves which is very handy, look up your herd, print it off, also you can register your herd online and all movement willl be recorded autmatically


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    its just more convenient than chasing forms etc.
    its nearly mistake proof aswell so you don't get those annoying letters from the dept because a signature or something silly is missing.

    just be careful if your father is not computer literate and you have to start doing it for him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Conchurl


    49801 wrote: »
    its just more convenient than chasing forms etc.
    its nearly mistake proof aswell so you don't get those annoying letters from the dept because a signature or something silly is missing.

    just be careful if your father is not computer literate and you have to start doing it for him!

    he doesnt know how to work the computer but i live at home so will have no problem doing it for him if he decides that he wants to give it a go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    Conchurl wrote: »
    he doesnt know how to work the computer but i live at home so will have no problem doing it for him if he decides that he wants to give it a go

    stop thinking about it then and get signed up... its very easy!!!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,756 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    ld recommend signing up for it, only disadvantage is you are doing a lot of the donkey work for the dept by loading up registrary details of a calf yourself.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,574 ✭✭✭dharn


    It is really useful, you can check stock numbers for any date, movements in and out and apply for single farm payment on line if no changes occurred from previous year ,no disadvantages


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭delaval


    NO NEED TO UPDATE BLUEBOOK


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭InchicoreDude


    With the new tagging system requiring you to send in part of the tag, some of the advantages of registering calves on there is gone.

    When the suckler scheme came in, you got €2 euro extra per calf if registered online. alas, that is gone now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,217 ✭✭✭Viewtodiefor


    delaval wrote: »
    NO NEED TO UPDATE BLUEBOOK

    One of the biggest advantages!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭hurling_lad


    Biggest advantage for me (apart from ditching the Blue book) is that when you are registering a calf, you only need to enter the dam's 4-digit tag number and her whole tag is automatically filled in. This makes the process quicker than filling in the full tag in the paper form but also, crucially, makes it very difficult to make a mistake with the full tag number. There is similar error-checking done on the stock bull's tag.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,274 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Biggest advantage for me (apart from ditching the Blue book) is that when you are registering a calf, you only need to enter the dam's 4-digit tag number and her whole tag is automatically filled in. This makes the process quicker than filling in the full tag in the paper form but also, crucially, makes it very difficult to make a mistake with the full tag number. There is similar error-checking done on the stock bull's tag.

    It's Very useful for looking at a cows past calving history.click on the cows number and you get a list of offspring.

    If you also use the ICBf website, you can also look at the sire history for cows. This is very useful when using ai to ensure you don't inbreed by using the same bull on a cow as she was bred from.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,410 ✭✭✭bbam


    delaval wrote: »
    NO NEED TO UPDATE BLUEBOOK

    Still needed for medicines isn't it?

    But yes reducing the use of the book is good news.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭nhg


    bbam wrote: »
    Still needed for medicines isn't it?

    But yes reducing the use of the book is good news.


    If you are using the Bord Bia medicine recording book I don't think you need to keep the Blue Book for medicines either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Figerty wrote: »
    It's Very useful for looking at a cows past calving history.click on the cows number and you get a list of offspring.

    Hmm didn't know that, on Icbf you get good ancestry details, but nothing showing offspring details!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Hmm didn't know that, on Icbf you get good ancestry details, but nothing showing offspring details!

    suckler cow report does that!!!;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Conchurl


    signed uo yesterday any idea how long the code in the post takes to come it says 10 working days but i was hoping they were just saying that and it would take 3-4 days, how long did it take for yer code to come


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Conchurl


    how long does it take for the newly registered calves to appear in your herd online?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,316 ✭✭✭tanko


    Conchurl wrote: »
    how long does it take for the newly registered calves to appear in your herd online?

    A few days usually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Conchurl


    tanko wrote: »
    A few days usually.

    ok thank you and can you tell me why it didnt ask me for the tag number of sire only the breed. we only have one bull


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    Conchurl wrote: »
    ok thank you and can you tell me why it didnt ask me for the tag number of sire only the breed. we only have one bull
    it does ask you for the tag of the sire, well it does on mine, have his tag number saved on it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Conchurl


    whelan1 wrote: »
    it does ask you for the tag of the sire, well it does on mine, have his tag number saved on it

    http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/agfoodiehelpvideos/aimcalfregistrationandcompliance/

    i filled in like they did in the video and didnt bother filling the form down the bottom only the top form like they did and it only asked for breed and not number is it because we only have one bull?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    Conchurl wrote: »
    http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/agfoodiehelpvideos/aimcalfregistrationandcompliance/

    i filled in like they did in the video and didnt bother filling the form down the bottom only the top form like they did and it only asked for breed and not number is it because we only have one bull?
    i do my dads herd on agfood - mine on ifc- he has 1 stockbull, it has his number saved, this is entered on all calves, is it entered on yours?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Conchurl


    whelan1 wrote: »
    i do my dads herd on agfood - mine on ifc- he has 1 stockbull, it has his number saved, this is entered on all calves, is it entered on yours?

    how can i check is it saved?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    on page 2 before you confirm the birth reg it should be on it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 693 ✭✭✭Conchurl


    whelan1 wrote: »
    on page 2 before you confirm the birth reg it should be on it

    Didnt see it but I will give them a ring on Monday to see if I done it right


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,489 ✭✭✭sh1tstirrer


    49801 wrote: »
    its just more convenient than chasing forms etc.
    its nearly mistake proof aswell so you don't get those annoying letters from the dept because a signature or something silly is missing.

    just be careful if your father is not computer literate and you have to start doing it for him!
    I have been using it since 2005 but I still register calves using ICBF form as I only had calves this year and last year. The last batch I sent away they made up some fictitious number for one of the dams and as I have the copy I can see that I wrote the correct number :mad: I must ring them Monday and tell them have another look at the form I sent in so they can see their mistake :)
    delaval wrote: »
    NO NEED TO UPDATE BLUEBOOK
    I just use it for movements does that mean that I don't need to update the blue book? What if a department man requests the bluebook during a herd test?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,343 ✭✭✭bob charles


    anyone finding Agfood getting seriously slow if loading the herd profile. getting ridiculous


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    I have been using it since 2005 but I still register calves using ICBF form as I only had calves this year and last year. The last batch I sent away they made up some fictitious number for one of the dams and as I have the copy I can see that I wrote the correct number :mad: I must ring them Monday and tell them have another look at the form I sent in so they can see their mistake :)

    I just use it for movements does that mean that I don't need to update the blue book? What if a department man requests the bluebook during a herd test?
    sure all movements are on agfood, once i mentioned agfood tothe inspector the other day that was 100% the only thing he wanted to see was that the withdrawal dates where right on the drugs i was using


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭farmernewbie


    Hi All,

    I just signed up to this. I will be buying about 20 yearlings now and selling in November. Seems like a handy system if I can scrap the fathers blue book. I remember before when we dosed we had to write it in the blue book? I don't see an option for this online. Anyone know what we have to do for dosing etc now when using online?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭49801


    Hi All,

    I just signed up to this. I will be buying about 20 yearlings now and selling in November. Seems like a handy system if I can scrap the fathers blue book. I remember before when we dosed we had to write it in the blue book? I don't see an option for this online. Anyone know what we have to do for dosing etc now when using online?

    You are still required to record remedies. If you are bord bia approved you can just use the book they provide else continue with blue book. This feature is not on agfood currently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭dzer2


    Dont forget to dose the dog.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Quick question here about agfood, chap bought two calves off the farm the other day, I'm doing the movement permit via agfood, it has an option to move to a holding, or a feedlot, I assume the holding is another farm which I want in this case, whats a feedlot?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,786 ✭✭✭✭whelan1


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Quick question here about agfood, chap bought two calves off the farm the other day, I'm doing the movement permit via agfood, it has an option to move to a holding, or a feedlot, I assume the holding is another farm which I want in this case, whats a feedlot?
    yes do the holding option... you should have done the permit before he got the calves by right... think a feedlot is like for band b


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭dzer2


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Quick question here about agfood, chap bought two calves off the farm the other day, I'm doing the movement permit via agfood, it has an option to move to a holding, or a feedlot, I assume the holding is another farm which I want in this case, whats a feedlot?

    Put in the herd number and if you select the feedlot option if its not a feed lot the farmers name will not appear. You should really do it before you sell as the farmer could be locked up and not allowed to buy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Thanks for that, and sorry I wasn't clear, its a neighbour and he only looked at them and did the deal the other day, picking them up tomorrow.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,443 ✭✭✭InchicoreDude


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Thanks for that, and sorry I wasn't clear, its a neighbour and he only looked at them and did the deal the other day, picking them up tomorrow.

    Geez, you get away with nothing in here!


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