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Favourite 4-5 in any weight?

  • 31-03-2013 1:28pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭


    Group them in weights but who's your favourite 4-5 boxers in certain weights, not necessarily the best, you just loved watching them or whatever.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Heavyweight

    1. Evander Holyfield
    Warrior and took on everyone, could box and fight and could take punches from the powerhouses such as lewis, Bowe and Tyson and keep coming

    2. George Foreman
    The man was a machine with power and a great chin, had a great jab and had great footwork

    3. Muhammed Ali
    Charisma and another who fought all the best around him

    4. Mike Tyson
    Although his opposition was questionable he was a machine that went through everyone when he was younger, would have liked to see that Mike in with Evander and Lewis to see what he was really made of.

    5. Riddock Bowe
    Only loss was to Evander and he avenged that winning their tussles 2-1, Bowe with hunger would have been the best heavy ever in my opinion, was like a better version of Foreman

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Wild_Dogger


    1. Lightweight - Shane Mosley

    2. Rigondeaux - Super Bantam

    3. Froch - Middleweight - Always a good fight

    4. Kirkland - 154lbs

    5. Frampton - ish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    I believe they were all super ban at one time in their career

    Morales
    Barrera
    Pacquiao
    McCullough
    JMM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭megadodge


    T-K-O wrote: »
    I believe they were all super ban at one time in their career

    Morales
    Barrera
    Pacquiao
    McCullough
    JMM

    I don't think marquez was ever a super bantam. His first title shot was a losing one at feather v Freddie Norwood.

    But I do love your list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    HW:

    Ali

    Tyson

    Holyfield

    Bowe

    Foreman


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭boxer.fan


    Lightweights:

    1. Roberto Duran
    Could arguably be in top ten of anybody's list.

    2. Alexis Arguello
    Tough as they come.

    3. Pernell Whitaker / JCC
    Can't choose between these two.

    4. Jose Luis Castillo


    5. Michael Katsidis
    For pure entertainment value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Middleweight

    1) James Toney - my favorite boxer whom I have elaborated on in another thread. He was fearless, insanely talented, slick as a bucket of oil, a general hard bastard and also one of the funniest characters in the sport.

    2) Roy Jones Jr - talented in a different sense to Toney, lacked many fundamentals but made up for them with freakish athleticism as well as just so much natural ability. Very few could stand with Jones in his prime, he made everyone he fought look like a nobody. Also a gas character.

    3) Steve Collins - only ever lost to Mike McCallum and Reggie Johnson (and Kalambray I suppose) and became the enemy of British fight fans for having the audacity to hammer Eubank and Benn. He was a great asset to Irish boxing and while he was a bit cheesy, he was a true warrior who earned the respect of every opponent he faced.

    4) Andre Ward - One of the best boxers of this generation, hands down. Carl Froch is a dangerous and engaging opponent for anyone and Ward completely embarrassed him. Same with Mikkel Kessler, who described him as a "magician". One only has to look at Ward fight to see the scientific nature of boxing.

    5) Carlos Monzon - a complete bastard but also a total warrior and formidable boxer. His fights are always engaging to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    boxer.fan wrote: »
    2. Alexis Arguello
    Tough as they come.

    A great fighter, often overlooked by many unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Middleweight

    1) James Toney - my favorite boxer whom I have elaborated on in another thread. He was fearless, insanely talented, slick as a bucket of oil, a general hard bastard and also one of the funniest characters in the sport.

    2) Roy Jones Jr - talented in a different sense to Toney, lacked many fundamentals but made up for them with freakish athleticism as well as just so much natural ability. Very few could stand with Jones in his prime, he made everyone he fought look like a nobody. Also a gas character.

    3) Steve Collins - only ever lost to Mike McCallum and Reggie Johnson (and Kalambray I suppose) and became the enemy of British fight fans for having the audacity to hammer Eubank and Benn. He was a great asset to Irish boxing and while he was a bit cheesy, he was a true warrior who earned the respect of every opponent he faced.

    4) Andre Ward - One of the best boxers of this generation, hands down. Carl Froch is a dangerous and engaging opponent for anyone and Ward completely embarrassed him. Same with Mikkel Kessler, who described him as a "magician". One only has to look at Ward fight to see the scientific nature of boxing.

    5) Carlos Monzon - a complete bastard but also a total warrior and formidable boxer. His fights are always engaging to watch.

    Good list. I'd replace Monzon with SRR or Nunn.

    Toney at peak was for me 168-175 lbs. That's when he was at his best shape wise.

    I still maintain that the best Toney up to 200 lbs beats Holyfield up to 200 lbs. Toney's all wrong for him. It's a dream fight!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    Obviously Sugar Ray is a better boxer than the likes of Monzon or Collins but to be brutally honest I haven't seen much video footage of him so I don't want to spoof on; the five I listed are fighters I found engaging on a personal level for one reason or another.

    I also think Monzon bates Nunn handy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    FTA69 wrote: »
    Obviously Sugar Ray is a better boxer than the likes of Monzon or Collins but to be brutally honest I haven't seen much video footage of him so I don't want to spoof on; the five I listed are fighters I found engaging on a personal level for one reason or another.

    I also think Monzon bates Nunn handy.

    Nunn is a far better technician/boxer than Monzon. Monzon has ONE chance, a KO. I doubt he gets it against a big and fast and skilled MW. Monzon met a lot of men smaller than he.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    Featherweight

    Manny Pacquiao
    Johnny Tapia
    Barry Mcguigan
    Erik Morales
    Naz Hamed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 748 ✭✭✭boxer.fan


    Featherweight

    Manny Pacquiao
    Johnny Tapia
    Barry Mcguigan
    Erik Morales
    Naz Hamed

    I like this list. My featherweight list would be similar, only I would swap Naz for Sal Sanchez.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    boxer.fan wrote: »
    I like this list. My featherweight list would be similar, only I would swap Naz for Sal Sanchez.
    I like Naz for sheer showmanship also his power made his fights really exciting as you felt the fight could be over at any second but i mean of course Sanchez is far far better then Naz ever was


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    I always thought Hamed is the classic example of an English fighter blown out of all absolute proportion. He beat a shot McCollough and to to be fair he beat Kevin Kelly, aside from that he fought nobody of note. Except of course Barrera who dished out possibly the most satisfying boxing lesson ever after which Hamed skulked off and was never seen again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,749 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    FTA69 wrote: »
    I always thought Hamed is the classic example of an English fighter blown out of all absolute proportion. He beat a shot McCollough and to to be fair he beat Kevin Kelly, aside from that he fought nobody of note. Except of course Barrera who dished out possibly the most satisfying boxing lesson ever after which Hamed skulked off and was never seen again.
    The question was not the best at the weight but your favourite, I think Hamed was one of the most entertaining fighters ever, of course he was hyped badly and no he aint a ledgend and Barrera did give him a boxing lesson but i loved him for his showmanship and KO power


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I found Hamed's style very boring. Nothing aesthetic at all with it. Posing and messing, leaping and jumping around vs. many bums. Take a Roy Jones as a similarity, but Roy did it with so much more style and class. Roy looked like a boxer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    walshb wrote: »
    I found Hamed's style very boring. Nothing aesthetic at all with it. Posing and messing, leaping and jumping around vs. many bums. Take a Roy Jones as a similarity, but Roy did it with so much more style and class. Roy looked like a boxer.

    Disagree, at the time he was very entertaining, easy to be against most the bums he fought but still they where fun times.

    RJJ just leagues ahead and just as fun though

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I don't find that showboating against bums entertaining. Pure boxing and style wise I found his style boring. He had lovely feet and balance, I will say that. No real text book skills. No real fluidity in his punching. When faced with quality he looked lost.


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