Forestry

foxylock

Do many of ye have a bit of the land planted? Do you think the premiums make it a worthwhile investment. I have about five acres of poor marginal land that may suit a plantation. But for some reason I keep hesitating, I supppose once its planted thats it!

tony007

You're in the wrong forum. The Forestry forum would be your best bet.

foxylock

tony007 wrote: »

You're in the wrong forum. The Forestry forum would be your best bet.

I was asking Farmers if they had any of their land planted. So I would say this is where most of the Farmers be hanging about.:D

tony007

True enough. We have 3 or 4 groups of about 10 sitka spruce in wet corners of fields. They're about 30-40 years old and they're great for firewood now.

jimmydkid

I have two six acre fields planted, both fields were not suitable for grass land. So far so good getting premium every year and have a nice little crop of trees growing.

tony007

jimmydkid wrote: »

I have two six acre fields planted, both fields were not suitable for grass land. So far so good getting premium every year and have a nice little crop of trees growing.

What kind of trees did you plant?

blue5000

Ya foxylock, have about 12 acres planted. It is really wet, cutaway bog, mix of norway, sitka and alder on the wettest parts. I'm told it's full of foxes too:D:D

locky76

foxylock wrote: »

Do many of ye have a bit of the land planted? Do you think the premiums make it a worthwhile investment. I have about five acres of poor marginal land that may suit a plantation. But for some reason I keep hesitating, I supppose once its planted thats it!

Plant it, poor marginal laqnd will at best break even given the weather we're having...
The premiums will last for 20 years and will allow you rent the equivalent of 10 acres. After that you will have your own supply of firewood for the rest of your life, it's a no brainer...

Bactidiaryl

locky76 wrote: »

Plant it, poor marginal laqnd will at best break even given the weather we're having...
The premiums will last for 20 years and will allow you rent the equivalent of 10 acres. After that you will have your own supply of firewood for the rest of your life, it's a no brainer...

What's the average payment and for how long. Does the landowner get some timber or just off cuts and thinnings. When the forestry company is finished what is the state of the land ; roots,stumps ect.? Sorry for all the questions. All new to me.

foxylock

Thanks for the replies lads, could you recommend a forestry company or did ye plant it yourselves.

Foxes did you say Blue........ wait a minute i'll get me blunderbuss!!

locky76

Bactidiaryl wrote: »

What's the average payment and for how long. Does the landowner get some timber or just off cuts and thinnings. When the forestry company is finished what is the state of the land ; roots,stumps ect.? Sorry for all the questions. All new to me.

€4,000 per acre to plant it amd maintain it for 4 years, which the forestry company will take, and €200 pet acre for 20 years...

Rovi

Bactidiaryl wrote: »

Does the landowner get some timber or just off cuts and thinnings. When the forestry company is finished what is the state of the land ; roots,stumps ect.? Sorry for all the questions. All new to me.

The standard arrangement for establishment of a new farm forest enterprise is for the landowner to sign the Instalment Grants over to a qualified forester or forestry company. This arrangement ends when the Forest Service sign off on the forest being acceptably established (at or around year 4) when the second Instalment Grant gets paid to the forester/forestry company.
The landowner may then choose to manage the forest themselves, enter into a new arrangement with their original forester/forestry company, or engage someone else to do so.
At all times, the landowner retains ownership of the land, the trees, and the products arising from the trees.
The landowner MAY choose to get a third party (ie, a forester or forestry company) to do everything (ongoing management, organise thinning operations, roading, clearfell, timber sales, etc, etc), or they may choose to engage professional assistance and advice as and when it's needed and look after the day-to-day stuff themselves.

Unless they specifically sign their 'rights' over to someone else, the landowner has final say in all things, throughout the lifetime of the forest.

crackcrack30

From a farming perspective if ur not fully sure about an area or field then dont plant it, as it costs u to reclaim and repay....
Got 9 acres done this year on marginal rushy ground and the drains have already improved the neighbouring field / ground.....deffo consider some for the future fuel ect.

Markcheese

And just think if you put in a lot of deciduous trees in for firewood you'll never have to replant ...