Bellew v Chilemba card

Jayob10

Crolla v Matthews about to start now, fancy Crolla to get the job done this time around

Really fancy Chilemba to take Bellew out tonight, Bellew is a hard working solid pro but I always worry when the Sky fighter has to take on a similarly ranked fighter, its like being forced into a mandatory. Chilemba is no mug either, has KO'd a few unbeaten fighters in his time.

Backed Chilemba at 8/1 for the KO last week, very confident

djhaxman

What a great fight that was, if the Bellew fight lives up to that we're in for a cracker. Would definitely like to see them do it again.

Danny dyers double

Crolla robbed but at least we should get to see part 3 .

Think the Bomber is going finish this early

Frankie Lee

Bellew annoys me.

megadodge

Danny dyers double wrote: »

Crolla robbed but at least we should get to see part 3 .

Think the Bomber is going finish this early

I thought it was awful close, so have no problem with the draw.

I actually backed the draw in running, to save me a good few bob as I had both backed at different stages.

nocoverart

I nearly choked on my drink. Did he just say "The beautiful city of Liverpool?"

T-K-O

That was a close fight. Crolla by a round at best IMO but you can't argue with the draw.

BigCon

Were some of the crowd making monkey sounds when the African guy was introduced?

megadodge

Like the look of Chilemba so far.

Very good counter right hand when Bellew opens up. I think if Bellew gets too eager he's gonna walk into counters all night. However, Bellew is a lot smarter than he gets credit for, so it'll be interesting to see does he cool it a bit and thinks a bit more.

T-K-O

This could be good..

Dick phelan

Cant see Bellew beating any of the current world champs a rematch with Cleverly being his best shot but he would get beating comfortably by Hopkins or Dawson really dont like Bellew so much mouth but not much to back it up and that crap about willing to die in the ring, given what can happen in boxing what an idiotic thing to say especially for a man with 3 children stupid

Frankie Lee

I have Chilemba doing better than Sky are thinking here, some of those early rounds Bellew didn't do enough to win when he couldn't land at all.

T-K-O

Frankie Lee wrote: »

I have Chilemba doing better than Sky are thinking here, some of those early rounds Bellew didn't do enough to win when he couldn't land at all.

In the early rounds Chilemba did absolutely nothing. it will cost him the fight I have them down for Bellew by default

megadodge

I still have it to Chilemba by a point.

I agree that Bellew only won the early rounds by default and if Chilemba loses, he can only blame himself for giving them away. He was the better boxer.

T-K-O

Disappointing fight. Chilemba should and could have made a real case.

Headshot

Fair result there I say

Fair poor match thou

Big Ears

114-114 for me, draw a fair result.
Absolutely shocking commentary from Sky, extremely biased.

Big setback for Eddie Hearn and Matchroom sport.

megadodge

The commentators are behaving as if it's a crazy decision, then go on to talk about the silence of the crowd. The crowd were silent right throughout because they knew it was really close.

Anyway, I had a small wager on the draw midway, so I'm quite happy with it.

Frankie Lee

The early rounds neither boxers landed anything of real merit, Bellew threw more but didn't land while Chlemba countered successfully on occasion. The later stages Chilemba completely outboxed him.

T-K-O

Not a sound in the background its like a morgue in there

Headshot

Both boxers talking bollocks

Here Precious2

Bellew is very ordinary

megadodge

Fair play to Johnny Nelson and John Conteh, both of whom reckoned it was a fair result.

HigginsJ

It looked like Bellew ran out of idea's very quickly once he couldn't land the big punches early. Chilimba did make him look very ordinary.

Draw is a fair result

Dick phelan

Big Ears wrote: »

114-114 for me, draw a fair result.
Absolutely shocking commentary from Sky, extremely biased.

Big setback for Eddie Hearn and Matchroom sport.

Why Bellew is hardly there biggest name or biggest hope, ye they hoped he would win a world title but in the long run matchroom have many fighters better then Bellew

el flaco

Bellew's delusion will only hamper any potential development. He's far too one-dimensional and doesn't seem to adapt in even the most straightforward ways.

nocoverart

Crap fight! in a way Bellew only has himself to blame. Madness that one judge had Chilemba 116=112 though.

Juwwi

Bellew came accross very bad in the interview showed a lack of class.

Did I hear him right he was moaning that he was the home town boxer
and should of got decisions.:pac:

DB10

Crolla - Matthews was a great scrap, thought Crolla nicked it myself but cant really argue with a draw. Crowd were very vocal in that must have been the Manchester Liverpool rivalry.

Bellew I thought was decent, thought he would have won that but he cant complain. Neither impressed me too much.

Would Bellew not be better aiming for Shumenov the WBA champion? He only has 14 fights to his name. Cant see him defeating the other champions if he wins the rematch.

DB10

robbie1977 wrote: »

Bellew came accross very bad in the interview showed a lack of class.

Did I hear him right he was moaning that he was the home town boxer
and should of got decisions.:pac:

Agreed he came across poorly but heat of the moment and that. Adrenaline still pumping, football managers say the same and its nowhere near as bad!

Big Ears

Dick phelan wrote: »

Why Bellew is hardly there biggest name or biggest hope, ye they hoped he would win a world title but in the long run matchroom have many fighters better then Bellew

Oh they've plenty of better fighters, but Bellew is a massive ticket seller and headliner for them. They pretty much sold out the Echo Arena (11,000 capacity) tonight, and okay this was much helped by other local fighters such as Matthews, Stalker, Dickens, Fielding and Smith, aswell as Crolla's fans making the short trip from Manchester, but Tony is by far and away their biggest ticket seller in Liverpool and their only real headliner (for Sky quality cards) for that City.

Froch, Bellew, Frampton, Brook, and now Burns are their big guys. The draw is not only a setback for Bellew, but it's now highly evident he's never going to make the grade at World level. A fighter of Bellew's popularity, with Sky's backing and a World title around his waist would have the potential to do stadium fights, and over this side of the Atlantic where we don't have the big casinos holding the events that's where the major money is. 1 stadium fight can financially produce multiple times what a normal card can in revenue, and any chance of Bellew ever having a stadium fight in the future is long gone now.

Froch is capable of doing them, Frampton if he makes it to the very top will likely have the popularity, but Brook likely won't and Burns won't unless he gets a top opponent at home. So it's a major potential revenue stream gone for matchroom.

T-K-O

A decent card and they will sell out the rematch.I thought matchroom were on the up

Big Ears

T-K-O wrote: »

A decent card and they will sell out the rematch.I thought matchroom were on the up

I was gonna reply saying the rematch would be a bit of a hard sell considering the first fight, even with a good card.
However from Eddie's interview here

it appears the rematch is unlikely to happen.

Very honest interview from Hearn aswell, refreshing to see from a promoter.

Dick phelan

Big Ears wrote: »

Oh they've plenty of better fighters, but Bellew is a massive ticket seller and headliner for them. They pretty much sold out the Echo Arena (11,000 capacity) tonight, and okay this was much helped by other local fighters such as Matthews, Stalker, Dickens, Fielding and Smith, aswell as Crolla's fans making the short trip from Manchester, but Tony is by far and away their biggest ticket seller in Liverpool and their only real headliner (for Sky quality cards) for that City.

Froch, Bellew, Frampton, Brook, and now Burns are their big guys. The draw is not only a setback for Bellew, but it's now highly evident he's never going to make the grade at World level. A fighter of Bellew's popularity, with Sky's backing and a World title around his waist would have the potential to do stadium fights, and over this side of the Atlantic where we don't have the big casinos holding the events that's where the major money is. 1 stadium fight can financially produce multiple times what a normal card can in revenue, and any chance of Bellew ever having a stadium fight in the future is long gone now.

Froch is capable of doing them, Frampton if he makes it to the very top will likely have the popularity, but Brook likely won't and Burns won't unless he gets a top opponent at home. So it's a major potential revenue stream gone for matchroom.

Frampton packed out the arena in his last fight, a european title fight, if he was to fight quigg that fight would do 11000 if not more, Froch's next fight is in a stadium and the first fight on box office in a while, Groves rematch with Degale would sell big, and Brook has sold out the sheffield arena numerous times and will so easily if he wins the world title, also if he gets a fight with khan thats a stadium fight for sure

Big Ears

Dick phelan wrote: »

Frampton packed out the arena in his last fight, a european title fight, if he was to fight quigg that fight would do 11000 if not more, Froch's next fight is in a stadium and the first fight on box office in a while, Groves rematch with Degale would sell big, and Brook has sold out the sheffield arena numerous times and will so easily if he wins the world title, also if he gets a fight with khan thats a stadium fight for sure

Froch's fight is at the O2 Arena in London, a lovely venue which holds 20,000 people (I was there recently myself) but it is not a stadium. Not that the Kessler fight couldn't have been done in a stadium, just kessler's team didn't want it in Nottingham believing it would lessen their man's chances.
Yes Frampton vs Quigg would do 11,000, great but that's still an arena capacity not a stadium, and Carl has quite some way to go yet before filling a stadium sized venue.

Groves vs Degale would sell pretty big (probably talking 10,000-15,000 if promoters do their job), but with different promoters involved and the paths they're going down, it's an unlikely event to happen anytime soon unless (a) Degale goes to matchroom, and (b) one of them wins a World 'title'.

Brook may indeed have sold his cards at the Motorpoint Arena for his last few fights, but to my knowledge none of those fights have utilised the venues full 13,500 capacity, therefore not true sell outs. A quick check seems to speculate that the Hatton fight did a little under 10,000, and the Jones and Saldiva fights ~7,000. Beating Alexander is a big enough if considering that's a 50/50 and Brook is away from home. Maybe he would be able to do the 13,500 if he were to capture the title, but that's no guarantee and certainly no chance he'd progress to stadium fights without Khan. Also I'm not sure I see the Khan fight happening anytime soon, not unless Golden Boy drop Khan or pick up Brook.

T-K-O

Im not sure how big a crowd Groves v Degale would attract. I'd like to see the RE but Degale looks worse every time I see him

Big Ears

T-K-O wrote: »

Im not sure how big a crowd Groves v Degale would attract. I'd like to see the RE but Degale looks worse every time I see him

Right now it's not that big (infact smaller than the first fight), but Groves is about to get the big sell from Matchroom and Sky so he'll become a big name in the near future. Degale's status has actually declined from when they first fought, I'd say the general public have forgotten who he is by now. But in a years time I reckon it'll be a massive fight again, not that it'll happen necessarily.

T-K-O

Big Ears wrote: »

Right now it's not that big (infact smaller than the first fight), but Groves is about to get the big sell from Matchroom and Sky so he'll become a big name in the near future. Degale's status has actually declined from when they first fought, I'd say the general public have forgotten who he is by now. But in a years time I reckon it'll be a massive fight again, not that it'll happen necessarily.

The fight will always command some interest but I think their careers are going in opposite directions.

I can see it getting to the stage were Groves wont take the fight just to piss Degale off.

I.E Degale will want and need the Groves fight in a years time

barney4001

I thought Bellew very fortunate to get a draw here ,and should have got points deducted when he butted and punched after first round was over,another home town decision

septern

Bellew was poor - if he wasn't such a big ticket seller he would never have got this chance.
He has never looked the same since he lost to Cleverly - last night against a smaller guy, who never looked like hurting him he never seemed to want to step in and throw some big punches - not sure if he was unable or lacked confidence to do so, and left his opponent control the fight when he was fighting at home in front of a big crowd. If you can't raise your game on a night like that are you ever going to?

at least Eddie Hearn was honest in the video clip - he isn't good enough to fight for a world title right now - and to be honest i don't think he ever will be

walshb

I didn't think Crolla at all deserved that fight. Derry was the one who pushed the fight and seemed to want to win it. Crolla's plan seemed to be one of survive and do enough to be competitive. Yes, some close rds, but most swung to Derry's commitment and work rate and shots landed. It was a good fight, nothing great.