Recommendations for stove installer in Dublin and best price for Boru 600i

onekeano

Hi guys, any advice would be much appreciated on this.

I installed a gas inset fire about 6 years ago and it was working fine until 12 months ago when a major draught came out of nowhere and has dramatically reduced the effectiveness of the fire. After giving this a lot of thought I think the cause may be a single storey extension my neighbour built around that time.

So, I'm looking to install a stove and was considering a Boru 600i (non-boiler) - have made some enquiries and best price I can get it delivered with trim is about €1200. Just wondering if anyone knows where I might get a better price?

Then the next stage is to get someone to fit it and what kind of price to expect for same? Also do you have to use easyflex (think that's what it's called for lining the chimney. Also, do the flue have to go to the top of the house (the reason I ask is that the current chimney is about 2.2m high - which was fine until my neighbour built on an extension about 3.5m high), so does my flue now have to go higher than that or does it have to go us as high as the 2 storey roof which would be a bigger job?

Any advise on the above would be much appreciated?

Roy

One shot on kill

The flue as far as I know should always be higher than the ridge tile on the roof.

Ill be honest I'm on my second 600i at the min and the first one went in 3 years ago. I'm not overly happy with the one I have now as it seems the attention to detail in the finish isn't there. Needless to say I'm not a big fan anymore. After. The second/ replacement stove was sent out and the hastle I had to get it. But maybe that's just my experience.

onekeano

One shot on kill wrote: »

The flue as far as I know should always be higher than the ridge tile on the roof.

Ill be honest I'm on my second 600i at the min and the first one went in 3 years ago. I'm not overly happy with the one I have now as it seems the attention to detail in the finish isn't there. Needless to say I'm not a big fan anymore. After. The second/ replacement stove was sent out and the hastle I had to get it. But maybe that's just my experience.

Ouch - thanks very much for the feedback - I appreciate it. Up to now I had heard great reports but I'm glad to get a more balanced view so I'll definitely check out alternative inset stoves. As a matter of interest could you give me an idea of how much you paid to get it installed?

Roy

One shot on kill

It's back to the same thing how much work is in the fire place piping and your flexi flue and all that. I'd say 1000 euro would go a fairway.

onekeano

One shot on kill wrote: »

It's back to the same thing how much work is in the fire place piping and your flexi flue and all that. I'd say 1000 euro would go a fairway.

ok thanks very much for the help - much appreciated.

Roy

nacimroc

onekeano wrote: »

So, I'm looking to install a stove and was considering a Boru 600i (non-boiler) - have made some enquiries and best price I can get it delivered with trim is about €1200. Just wondering if anyone knows where I might get a better price?

I rang Boru in Thurles and they gave me their retailer list as they don't sell direct. I spent a half hour ringing them all and got prices from 1k up to 1600. Cheapest place was in the expert electrical in Fermoy which I swung by on way home. Saved myself a few hundred quid. Kilkerrin stoves near Tuam are cheap too.

(no affiliation to either)

onekeano

nacimroc wrote: »

I rang Boru in Thurles and they gave me their retailer list as they don't sell direct. I spent a half hour ringing them all and got prices from 1k up to 1600. Cheapest place was in the expert electrical in Fermoy which I swung by on way home. Saved myself a few hundred quid. Kilkerrin stoves near Tuam are cheap too.

(no affiliation to either)

Thanks very much for the advise Nacimroc - I really appreciate it.

Roy

kopkidda

Hi Keano,

Was looking into Boru stoves myself and priced a few of them, through a lot of research I was leaning towards the Croí Beag as is gave out ample heat for a room my size.

Was told that the 600i would prob need a flue liner the length of the chimney so if I got the croi beag could use existing flue with an adapter and flexi flue from appliance into the adapter. Also the amount of heat coming from the 600i might crack my fireplace which would lead to a lot of extra cost to fix up.

Joyce stoves have good price on them Boru stoves.

Sent you a PM with a link to a stove installer who I got a decent quote off work work.

One shot on kill

First off all a flexi flue cannot be connected direct to any stove. It will decinagrate in a matter of weeks. If you put your flue directly into your clay flue liners it will burst them aswell. Either way is not going to last. Thrust me I'm speaking from experience and a very expensive lesson.

The way it should be done is solid stainless steel flue directly off the stove I think it has to be at least 900 mm or a meter long and a grade of 313 ( i think ) something like that anyway. Then you can take your flexi flue all the way to the top of your chimney. The professional that sortedine out in the end said every single existing chimney with a stove been put into it should be done to this standard. The clay flue liners just aren't up to the heat.

Robbie.G

One shot on kill wrote: »

First off all a flexi flue cannot be connected direct to any stove. It will decinagrate in a matter of weeks. If you put your flue directly into your clay flue liners it will burst them aswell. Either way is not going to last. Thrust me I'm speaking from experience and a very expensive lesson.

The way it should be done is solid stainless steel flue directly off the stove I think it has to be at least 900 mm or a meter long and a grade of 313 ( i think ) something like that anyway. Then you can take your flexi flue all the way to the top of your chimney. The professional that sortedine out in the end said every single existing chimney with a stove been put into it should be done to this standard. The clay flue liners just aren't up to the heat.

Your right flexi flue cannot be connected directly into a stove.You should have a connecting flue pipe a min 600mm long connected to flexi and then run up to top.
Your connecting flue can be made from steel of stainless steel and a flexi liner for solid fuel should be 150mm diameter even if your stove has a 125mm collar on it

onekeano

kopkidda wrote: »

Hi Keano,

Was looking into Boru stoves myself and priced a few of them, through a lot of research I was leaning towards the Croí Beag as is gave out ample heat for a room my size.

Was told that the 600i would prob need a flue liner the length of the chimney so if I got the croi beag could use existing flue with an adapter and flexi flue from appliance into the adapter. Also the amount of heat coming from the 600i might crack my fireplace which would lead to a lot of extra cost to fix up.

Joyce stoves have good price on them Boru stoves.

Sent you a PM with a link to a stove installer who I got a decent quote off work work.

Thanks very much KK for the tip on Joyce - am sending you PM with my research so far.......

Roy

Brown Env

Hi Kopkidda and One Shot Kill,

I'm pretty sure I want a Boru Fiachra or 500i stove as they best fit my existing fireplace void.

To get it fitted, I am getting conflicting advise from Boru and 3 different installers.

To be pretty sure things are done right, my understanding is that spec needs to include

Insulation: As recommended by Boru technical dept. Min 50mm/2" Rockwool Solid Slab required on all 3 sides - left, right, back

Flue: 9m Flue liner with vermiculite/perlite filling between liner and original chimney. Should I be asking for a steel flue to join the liner to the stove also?

Sealed: Airtight unit with no draught around sides of stove unit or coming down between flu and flu lining. Only draught comes through the flu/stove door when open.

Cowl: Cowl to stop rain and backdraft.

Trouble is that I am getting conflicting info from different installers, who are also proving unreliable when it comes to following thing up.

I'm looking for someone prepared to supply and fit a stove in the Dublin region, who is honest, reliable and knows their stuff inside out.

If anyone could replay to this message and/PM me the contact of a decent installer, I would be much obliged.

Regards,
B

One shot on kill

Make sure you meet Boru's installation specs or better for your warranty.

In my experience you will need it.

Brown Env

Any suggestions of alternative manufacturers or models that you would recommend instead?

I'm looking at an inset stove, to go into an old fireplace void.

One shot on kill

Boiler models or not.

Brown Env

No boiler. Just an inset mixed fuel stove. 6-7w. Heating an old back room and the extension it now runs into.

Mister D

Hey, am in the same boat myself. anymore info on this alternative boilers etc?